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Title: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: adarqui on December 02, 2010, 11:53:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft5KJLAgwVk

fyi, not good.
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: adarqui on December 02, 2010, 11:59:19 pm
uh how not to do MR hurdle jumps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpJ8y75oARE
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: adarqui on December 03, 2010, 12:00:53 am
how not to do ankle jumps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWj3CpFDkQQ




how not to do depth jumps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roLXCEVdwrM




bottom line, youtube.com/verticaljumpcenter is pretty shitty.
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: adarqui on December 03, 2010, 12:05:14 am
how not to get strong for jumping:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNOh2rr3qls

holy crap.
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: LBSS on December 03, 2010, 01:04:47 pm
What's wrong with leg pressing?
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: djoe on December 04, 2010, 05:02:05 pm
wtf is that depth jump???
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: LBSS on December 04, 2010, 05:04:37 pm
wtf is that depth jump???

Funny as hell it what it is.
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: mattyg35 on December 04, 2010, 08:05:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft5KJLAgwVk

fyi, not good.

uh how not to do MR hurdle jumps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpJ8y75oARE

how not to do ankle jumps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWj3CpFDkQQ

how not to do depth jumps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roLXCEVdwrM


Andrew would you mind writing up in more detail about what should(n't) be done in these exercises.
Thanks.
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: bball2020 on December 05, 2010, 01:46:22 am
as a side note, i do really like hitting your head on things on depth jumps, you get higher obviously..
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: adarqui on December 05, 2010, 03:18:14 am
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Andrew would you mind writing up in more detail about what should(n't) be done in these exercises.
Thanks.


sure






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft5KJLAgwVk

fyi, not good.


bad:
- incorrect arm swing timing
- rounding back on landing
- letting heel smash into the floor
- spending way too much time on the ground



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uh how not to do MR hurdle jumps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpJ8y75oARE

bad:
- arm swing timing
- spending too long on the ground




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how not to do ankle jumps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWj3CpFDkQQ


bad:
- mushy landing, legs too bent




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how not to do depth jumps:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roLXCEVdwrM
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absolutely horrible..
- need arm action while stepping off box
- need visual dorsiflexion of foot stepping off box and before landing
- need timed arm swing on landing so you can propel yourself right back up etc
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: TKXII on December 05, 2010, 09:44:04 am
Wow haven't been here in a while. Interesting stuff going on.
For the first two, the big white guy, his terrible form is more a product of his low vertical. He does not have the reactive strength to perform a tuck jump with good form and enough hangtime.

For the ankle hops - he is not overloading his ankles as much as he could if he did not flex knee.

For leg press - he's not training for strength; he is lifting very slowly, stopping at bottom of motion wastes the kinetic energy that can be turned into an explosive lift. That type of lifting is good for endurance and general strength/hypertrophy maybe.

Lol I loved this thread by the way, worst depth jump I've ever seen. I felt lazier watching it
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: adarqui on December 06, 2010, 04:52:49 pm
Wow haven't been here in a while. Interesting stuff going on.
For the first two, the big white guy, his terrible form is more a product of his low vertical. He does not have the reactive strength to perform a tuck jump with good form and enough hangtime.

For the ankle hops - he is not overloading his ankles as much as he could if he did not flex knee.

yup


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For leg press - he's not training for strength; he is lifting very slowly, stopping at bottom of motion wastes the kinetic energy that can be turned into an explosive lift. That type of lifting is good for endurance and general strength/hypertrophy maybe.

i didn't rewatch the vid, but i remember the leg press he did looked really bad because of how his feet placement was, looked like he was using way too much "quad".. there's a way to do leg press that at least hits the hams/glutes a bit more, ie foot flat, feet placement a little higher.. i remember his feet were low and at the bottom his heels were off the plate.



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Lol I loved this thread by the way, worst depth jump I've ever seen. I felt lazier watching it

lol, that's not the worst i've seen if you can imagine that.. can't find the worst one i've seen, but it was so bad that i'm laughing right now thinking about it.

pc
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: Raptor on December 06, 2010, 06:55:16 pm
I remember the worst... it was that slow guy that jumped like 4 inches for the rebound jump.
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: adarqui on December 06, 2010, 08:42:49 pm
I remember the worst... it was that slow guy that jumped like 4 inches for the rebound jump.

it was some hockey guy, he lands and loads up for like 3 seconds swinging his arms back and forward, then jumps like 4".

lol
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: Raptor on December 06, 2010, 09:05:29 pm
I remember the worst... it was that slow guy that jumped like 4 inches for the rebound jump.

it was some hockey guy, he lands and loads up for like 3 seconds swinging his arms back and forward, then jumps like 4".

lol

Yeah it's a way to suppress the stretch reflex, which is exactly what you should do for a depth jump since that's the key: remove any reactive rebound from the jump. Oh wait... :ninja:

Maybe he read that it's more important to get higher than jump quicker, and he gets the highest off a standing vertical jump so he dropped, stopped and did a standing VJ. Or he could be retarded, who knows?
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: BMully on December 07, 2010, 05:08:47 pm
I remember the worst... it was that slow guy that jumped like 4 inches for the rebound jump.

it was some hockey guy, he lands and loads up for like 3 seconds swinging his arms back and forward, then jumps like 4".

lol

Yeah it's a way to suppress the stretch reflex, which is exactly what you should do for a depth jump since that's the key: remove any reactive rebound from the jump. Oh wait... :ninja:

Maybe he read that it's more important to get higher than jump quicker, and he gets the highest off a standing vertical jump so he dropped, stopped and did a standing VJ. Or he could be retarded, who knows?

Why do you always use the that smilie? just curious
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: Raptor on December 07, 2010, 05:28:32 pm
That goes way back... to the days when I was being a member of the streetball.co.uk forum some 7 years ago... we used a similar smilie like crazy. It's meant to be a "sarcastic" smilie.
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: JackW on December 07, 2010, 06:34:14 pm
Andrew when you were explaining what was wrong with some of thoe videos you could have just said - "He wasn't even trying"
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: adarqui on December 07, 2010, 06:44:41 pm
Andrew when you were explaining what was wrong with some of thoe videos you could have just said - "He wasn't even trying"

lol, i think he was definitely trying on those tuck jumps, but ya, exactly.. i don't think he's strong enough/coordinated enough to make it look like he's trying though.. needs to put in alot of work in the reactive-strength department.

hehe
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: Rix on December 17, 2010, 11:58:09 am
In the leg press vid the guy is also locking his knees after extending which you never want to do.
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: Raptor on December 17, 2010, 01:15:37 pm
In the leg press vid the guy is also locking his knees after extending which you never want to do.

Locking the knees is a natural human movement.
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: adarqui on December 17, 2010, 03:37:05 pm
In the leg press vid the guy is also locking his knees after extending which you never want to do.

Locking the knees is a natural human movement.

ya there's no problem locking the knees when squatting.
Title: Re: *ATTENTION* HOW NOT TO DO MR TUCK JUMPS *ATTENTION*
Post by: tychver on December 17, 2010, 04:27:24 pm
In the leg press vid the guy is also locking his knees after extending which you never want to do.

Locking the knees is a natural human movement.

ya there's no problem locking the knees when squatting.


Yah just don't hyperextend lol.