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Performance Area => Pics, Videos, & Links => Topic started by: DamienZ on February 08, 2011, 05:04:22 am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7WUHVA9lqE
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Great vid Damien, lot's of truth being spoken, sat through the whole thing and took notes.
Thanks
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It was a great video for sure. No emo message from me on this one.
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Dave Tate on box squatting:
http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/training-articles/efs-classic-squatting-from-head-to-toe/
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Dave Tate on box squatting:
http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/training-articles/efs-classic-squatting-from-head-to-toe/
The love of the box squat comes from the fact that it allows WPO powerlifting guys to mimic a competition squat while lifting in training without the suit.
It does have some uses with athletes though. It's very useful for teaching lankier guys who can't squat easily to load the posterior chain.
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very true about going broke since roughly a 4 week cycle of HGH will run you around 7,000 dollars, but yeah im surprised about no bashing on the steroids lol
but yeah dave tate is the man, thank god louie yelled at him back in the day and helped him get to where he is now. He has another video from the seminar too, i think its the same one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6881kHRpmX8
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Dave Tate on box squatting:
http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/training-articles/efs-classic-squatting-from-head-to-toe/
The love of the box squat comes from the fact that it allows WPO powerlifting guys to mimic a competition squat while lifting in training without the suit.
It does have some uses with athletes though. It's very useful for teaching lankier guys who can't squat easily to load the posterior chain.
He says a lot of bullshit in that article though. Like, the quads are not that important for squats because if they were, we'd all be using leg press weights in the squats. I mean, you don't need me to start debunking that, right?
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Dave Tate on box squatting:
http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/training-articles/efs-classic-squatting-from-head-to-toe/
The love of the box squat comes from the fact that it allows WPO powerlifting guys to mimic a competition squat while lifting in training without the suit.
It does have some uses with athletes though. It's very useful for teaching lankier guys who can't squat easily to load the posterior chain.
He says a lot of bullshit in that article though. Like, the quads are not that important for squats because if they were, we'd all be using leg press weights in the squats. I mean, you don't need me to start debunking that, right?
please, do it!
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Dave Tate on box squatting:
http://articles.elitefts.com/articles/training-articles/efs-classic-squatting-from-head-to-toe/
The love of the box squat comes from the fact that it allows WPO powerlifting guys to mimic a competition squat while lifting in training without the suit.
It does have some uses with athletes though. It's very useful for teaching lankier guys who can't squat easily to load the posterior chain.
He says a lot of bullshit in that article though. Like, the quads are not that important for squats because if they were, we'd all be using leg press weights in the squats. I mean, you don't need me to start debunking that, right?
take the issues up with him on Elitefts and get back to us what both sides said
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i liked the ace card analogy..
beyond that, i'm very anti roids/PED's in competitive sports.. if it's illegal, then i hate it, and i hate anyone who uses them.
in non-drug tested sports, i could care less.. for people who are simply into physique, i could care less.. for people going through andropause, i could care less..
but any athlete using PED's on a pro sports/olympic level in a drug-tested sport/event can go F themselves.
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what about HGH and other gh peptides, since HGH isnt considered a steroid?
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btw raptor i read the article, please dont try to debunk it, cuz youll get owned by him
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btw raptor i read the article, please dont try to debunk it, cuz youll get owned by him
I might like it.
There are other OBVIOUS reasons why you leg press much more than you squat and I don't think quad strength has anything to do with it, or if it does, then it's a far away factor in terms of importance.
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btw raptor i read the article, please dont try to debunk it, cuz youll get owned by him
I might like it.
There are other OBVIOUS reasons why you leg press much more than you squat and I don't think quad strength has anything to do with it, or if it does, then it's a far away factor in terms of importance.
yea, raptor is right. The fact that you are leg pressing the weight at an ANGLE, not vertically, reduces the load immensely in itself, then factor in that youre not lifting your bodyweight, then factor in joint angles, rom, etc, and you cant compare loads in leg press/squat accurately at all.
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btw raptor i read the article, please dont try to debunk it, cuz youll get owned by him
I might like it.
There are other OBVIOUS reasons why you leg press much more than you squat and I don't think quad strength has anything to do with it, or if it does, then it's a far away factor in terms of importance.
yea, raptor is right. The fact that you are leg pressing the weight at an ANGLE, not vertically, reduces the load immensely in itself, then factor in that youre not lifting your bodyweight, then factor in joint angles, rom, etc, and you cant compare loads in leg press/squat accurately at all.
Exactly. Quad strength is not an important factor at all vs these^^^
There's also no need to stabilize the weight and the weight point of pressure is on the hips/low back vs upperback, meaning you have a shorter lever in terms of weight application vs your body.
I mean, imagine if you had the same legs but your torso is 30 feet tall. If you put a bar on your back with the same weight you're squatting now, it's going to feel immense because it's so hard to stabilize a bar that is so far away from the point where the tension is generated (hips/legs).
Same goes with leg length. If you have a very long femur you're going to need a much higher strength base to stabilize the knee in a jump than a guy with a shorter femur.
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Oh, and another thing. You're also not lifting any of your body weight with the leg press machine, which you do in a squat.
Btw, that's something nobody realizes. Go ahead, put on a 30lb weight vest and squatting your 5RM will be much more difficult (even assuming that the vest doesn't get in the way or change your form at all). Leg press takes away stabilization needed, lifting at an angle and thus reducing force needed, plus takes away the bodyweight that you have to lift.
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Oh, and another thing. You're also not lifting any of your body weight with the leg press machine, which you do in a squat.
Btw, that's something nobody realizes. Go ahead, put on a 30lb weight vest and squatting your 5RM will be much more difficult (even assuming that the vest doesn't get in the way or change your form at all). Leg press takes away stabilization needed, lifting at an angle and thus reducing force needed, plus takes away the bodyweight that you have to lift.
No, we do realize it. Lance said that already, that's why I haven't said it myself.
then factor in that youre not lifting your bodyweight