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Performance Area => Pics, Videos, & Links => Topic started by: RJ Nelsen on July 19, 2011, 05:35:31 pm
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I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514
For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. ;D
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Nice but...
What's you squat? ;D
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Hahahaha! :D
No clue. I can power snatch bodyweight like it was an empty bar though. That counts for something, right?
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Hahahaha! :D
No clue. I can power snatch bodyweight like it was an empty bar though. That counts for something, right?
Any idea why the hang variants are so difficult vs the ones from the floor. In the hang powerclean I find so hard to use my hips to execute the lift that when the bar slides into the power position (which feels weird for me by the way) I usually push the bar up with the lower portion of my quads (where the bar rests in the power position) so I actually to a hip flexing activity to initiate the lift and then jump and extend (somewhat).
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Hahahaha! :D
No clue. I can power snatch bodyweight like it was an empty bar though. That counts for something, right?
Any idea why the hang variants are so difficult vs the ones from the floor. In the hang powerclean I find so hard to use my hips to execute the lift that when the bar slides into the power position (which feels weird for me by the way) I usually push the bar up with the lower portion of my quads (where the bar rests in the power position) so I actually to a hip flexing activity to initiate the lift and then jump and extend (somewhat).
you're doing it wrong!
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Hahahaha! :D
No clue. I can power snatch bodyweight like it was an empty bar though. That counts for something, right?
Any idea why the hang variants are so difficult vs the ones from the floor. In the hang powerclean I find so hard to use my hips to execute the lift that when the bar slides into the power position (which feels weird for me by the way) I usually push the bar up with the lower portion of my quads (where the bar rests in the power position) so I actually to a hip flexing activity to initiate the lift and then jump and extend (somewhat).
you're doing it wrong!
No shit? Well that was the idea.
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Haha, yeah, that's pretty much it. I can't really help you here either. I never could get the hang clean down. That having been said, it's not a lift I'd recommend to someone looking to increase their CMJ. I think a hang snatch would work much better. Plus, it's easy to get the bar in the right place for the scoop on a snatch.
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I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514
For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. ;D
Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?
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Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?
Lots of reasons. They're fun, sometimes I don't have access to a barbell, they make sure I don't get fat, they spare the lower back, they help with gymnastic movements and body control, and I seem to recover from them better. Plus, the strength they build transfers over directly to barbell pressing, provided one does them paused and with a full ROM.
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I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514
For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. ;D
Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150242346315188 (https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150242346315188)
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Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?
Lots of reasons. They're fun, sometimes I don't have access to a barbell, they make sure I don't get fat, they spare the lower back, they help with gymnastic movements and body control, and I seem to recover from them better. Plus, the strength they build transfers over directly to barbell pressing, provided one does them paused and with a full ROM.
Good enough reasons! I was just wondering because I imagine the effect being similar to a work-out with higher volume / lower intensity presses. That would have the advantage of manipulating the resistance a little better if necessary. But you seem to know what you are doing, your press got fucking strong.
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I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514
For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. ;D
Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150242346315188 (https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150242346315188)
Damien, you have a bad habit of answering with really childish responses to serious meant questions. I was not trolling RJ here, because I am not a troll. I recognized that he is very damn strong in the press and asked why he would do handstand push-ups as assistance instead of light, higher volume presses because of the reason I stated above (better control over resistance). I was not going to imply that you cannot get strong with bodyweight movements. I just think that less ability to control resistance is a disadvantage in many cases, but probably not in this one for the reasons RJ posted. It is also an assistance movement, realize that he does real presses as well.
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I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514
For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. ;D
Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150242346315188 (https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150242346315188)
Damien, you have a bad habit of answering with really childish responses to serious meant questions. I was not trolling RJ here, because I am not a troll. I recognized that he is very damn strong in the press and asked why he would do handstand push-ups as assistance instead of light, higher volume presses because of the reason I stated above (better control over resistance). I was not going to imply that you cannot get strong with bodyweight movements. I just think that less ability to control resistance is a disadvantage in many cases, but probably not in this one for the reasons RJ posted. It is also an assistance movement, realize that he does real presses as well.
aaaaand you take shit too seriously sometimes. funny video was funny.
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aaaaand you take shit too seriously sometimes. funny video was funny.
Maybe that's true. But I found the video funny as well :)
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why was that childish? it was just meant to be a reminder that you can get rally strong without much barbell training.
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why was that childish? it was just meant to be a reminder that you can get rally strong without much barbell training.
Maybe the fault is on my side here. But I feel that you don't make an effort to be understood. You posting that video might implicate a variety of meanings. It can very well be interpreted as a criticism to me asking this question in the first place or making fun of the idea that barbells are a superior training tool for most purposes. Why not just make the point and say "you can get really strong without much barbell training" and then post the video?
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why was that childish? it was just meant to be a reminder that you can get rally strong without much barbell training.
Maybe the fault is on my side here. But I feel that you don't make an effort to be understood. You posting that video might implicate a variety of meanings. It can very well be interpreted as a criticism to me asking this question in the first place or making fun of the idea that barbells are a superior training tool for most purposes. Why not just make the point and say "you can get really strong without much barbell training" and then post the video?
Take everything people say with a grain of salt.
It's a fool who takes offense when none is intended. A greater fool when it is. (paraphrase.... just something I've heard before)
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why was that childish? it was just meant to be a reminder that you can get rally strong without much barbell training.
Maybe the fault is on my side here. But I feel that you don't make an effort to be understood. You posting that video might implicate a variety of meanings. It can very well be interpreted as a criticism to me asking this question in the first place or making fun of the idea that barbells are a superior training tool for most purposes. Why not just make the point and say "you can get really strong without much barbell training" and then post the video?
even if that's the case, which it very obviously wasn't, why do care so much?
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I care about it because by not saying something explicitly it is not being made accessible to discussion. You might imply something that could be viewed critically, but by not explicitly saying so you dodge being made accountable for it.
I am NOT saying that this is what Damien did here. But I have a problem with this kind of response in general because of what I explained above. If you want to make a point, have the balls to say it directly or don't bring it up at all.
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I care about it because by not saying something explicitly it is not being made accessible to discussion. You might imply something that could be viewed critically, but by not explicitly saying so you dodge being made accountable for it.
I am NOT saying that this is what Damien did here. But I have a problem with this kind of response in general because of what I explained above. If you want to make a point, have the balls to say it directly or don't bring it up at all.
meh