Author Topic: is my 36.9 standing vert legit ??  (Read 7575 times)

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nba8340

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Re: is my 36.9 standing vert legit ??
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2012, 01:24:40 am »
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yea, been working with him for awhile now.

yea my run up still needs a lot of work.  My standing and 2-3 step is fine, but can't do a full run up.  I'm planning on really hammering the technique and practice when i get my standing to a 40 , bcs once i get there i think if i can perfect my run up i can get a 48 running which would allow me to hit my head on the rim.  Along with that, I have some patellar tendinits right now so can't even really do plyos.Don't think my penultimate is really small but def. could be bigger, a big part of it comes from just not being able to get lots of speed going into the final plant, once i improve that i think the last step will increase in length.

Why were you confused about my depth?  Depth is going to vary depending on the athlete, i don't think its necessary to dip very low.  I find that when i jump quicker and not going as deep i get higher.  Maybe as i get stronger i'll dip down a little lower on my plant into the jump.

I don't know about fast twitch fibers, i just think the depth i use allows me to get the greatest power output, if i dipped lower i might get more force but it would be a lot slower overall leading to less power overall and a lower jump.  I'd have to double check but i don't think the best leapers dip that low

Wow you were in Kelly Baggett's latest article! http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/HowMuchCanVertBeImproved.html

Didn't know you were working with him.

Anyway after reading that, I was thinking that you (Ori) still haven't had all the improvement possible on movement efficiency. Your run up looks different than what most high leapers do. ANd your penultimate looks really small. I don't know if the large penultimate is the way for everyone, but certainly yours is smaller than I'd expect for a 40+ jumper and furthermore, your depth is pretty high during your RVJ in your dunk vid. Baggett didn't mention that though so I was a bit confused I guess. And I'm sure you've already thought about this.

What do you think?

edit: not all great leapers have a deep depth during their RVJ, but most do. Maybe you have more FT fibers so you take a shorter stepped more reactive run up

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Re: is my 36.9 standing vert legit ??
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2012, 04:03:14 am »
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Both depth and the drop-plant depend on strength, structure and quad/glute dominance. I think a quad-strong person will plant with a shorter drop-plant and deeper, while a glute guy will plant with a longer drop-plant and higher in order to better reach his glutes so to speak.