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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2013, 07:36:53 am »
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You finally hit that 475lb
excellent job man and it was as easy as your 455 videos i have seen.
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« Reply #61 on: October 10, 2013, 04:26:27 pm »
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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2013, 05:23:17 pm »
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yeah kf, i wanna see how much you can squat without the pause.
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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2013, 06:55:06 pm »
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I bet it's not that much over the paused version.
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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2013, 10:17:50 am »
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if he practiced a PL-compliant squat (less depth, no pause) for a couple of months i bet he could squat 600+. he couldn't do that tomorrow but he could if he decided to go for it.
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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2016, 11:12:28 am »
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bump for some seated calf work. feels like full ROM when i'm doing them but ROM looks weak on vid. could be that the foot rests are angled. i'm not pushing straight up. its slanted a bit.. i also noticed the jerking motion towards the top ROM. thats when i'm really trying to squeeze the calves and really get max plantar flexion.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg0fTZ2IL74" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg0fTZ2IL74</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OosJgh3rEw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OosJgh3rEw</a>
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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2016, 11:52:54 am »
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What are you using these for? I mean, it's not like your soleus needs that much of a load.
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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2016, 12:02:01 pm »
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Quote from: Raptor on May 25, 2016, 11:52:54 am
What are you using these for? I mean, it's not like your soleus needs that much of a load.

calves need heavy loads and lots of reps to grow.

i do it for some form of calf work without tiring my back. smith machine standing calf kills my traps in the long run.

its always a good thing to have massive calves for jump training. more muscles to take some impacts of landings away from the connective tissues.
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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2016, 12:28:51 pm »
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nice.

unrelated: was searching for a seated calf raise quote by verkhoshansky but couldn't find it.
- http://www.verkhoshansky.com/Forum/tabid/84/forumid/15/postid/559/scope/posts/Default.aspx
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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2016, 02:04:15 pm »
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Is it worth doing them for athleticism, knowing only the soleus works in the seated version?
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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #70 on: May 25, 2016, 06:29:24 pm »
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Quote from: Raptor on May 25, 2016, 02:04:15 pm
Is it worth doing them for athleticism, knowing only the soleus works in the seated version?

was wondering this too. also, didnt standing calf raises ALSO work the soleus? considering incorporating seated calf raises but these 2 questions need to be answered first

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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2016, 06:56:21 pm »
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unbelievably i can't find any pics of deep plants for DLRVJ jumpers.. lots of dead links.

ok I lied, there's a ton on my old photobucket:





I have no idea whether or not seated calve raises contribute much to vert.. but in DLRVJ, you can get in some positions which would most definitely stress them eccentrically.. I imagine if they are stronger, they may be able to contribute "something" to overall reactive strength.

I doubt anyone knows for sure.. but it could be worth incorporating (along with standing calve raises), to make sure you aren't missing out on potential "inches". As far as standing calve raises go, they are most definitely neglected.

I'll try to find some quotes about seated calf raises in SSTM. Verkhoshansky mentions them several times, related to leaping.

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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #72 on: May 26, 2016, 02:49:59 am »
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Yeah, in fact, I brought on this exact point talking about Myree's plant in another thread, lel.

How strong was Eddie in the calf raise variations when you were training him, Andrew? Was he getting complete ROM on his standing/seated calf raises? And if so, what were the ratios to his bodyweight?
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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #73 on: May 26, 2016, 03:22:37 am »
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Quote from: Raptor on May 26, 2016, 02:49:59 am
Yeah, in fact, I brought on this exact point talking about Myree's plant in another thread, lel.

ah ya.. it's something that might be overlooked.. the "calves are useless" mantra permeates the industry.



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How strong was Eddie in the calf raise variations when you were training him, Andrew? Was he getting complete ROM on his standing/seated calf raises? And if so, what were the ratios to his bodyweight?

as far as calf raises goes, he only did the standing variation. We didn't have the seated calf raise machine inside the "outdoor facility". So we did standing barbell, standing db, and single leg standing db calf  raises.

i forget his actual stats though.. I don't have any of those sheets/computer data anymore. ;/

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Re: Kingfush Unlisted Training Vids
« Reply #74 on: May 26, 2016, 03:30:25 am »
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Am I wrong in assuming the soleus assists the quads in transferring energy towards the ground? If the soleus muscles, in the plant position that Myree displays above, would be weak, then the heels would collapse and there would be "no medium" through which the quads could "push through" towards the ground. The gastrocnemius muscles are in active insufficiency in that position, so only the soleus can do the job there.

Am I missing anything?
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