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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #60 on: March 24, 2018, 10:05:26 pm »
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This is some serious stuff.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_RB_3Oqk7c" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_RB_3Oqk7c</a>

Went to the Parkland rally/march today, incredible stuff. These young folks are realizing how much power they have and are not messing around.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #61 on: March 25, 2018, 08:07:49 am »
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Proud of these kids. Man they are crushing it.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t2HOBhyjOI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t2HOBhyjOI</a>

I was at the rally/march in Parkland yesterday and it incredible how many young folks there were. Plenty of adults/older people, but man, it seemed like the majority of the people there were young (high school or younger). That makes me happy. I just want to see these kids come out and vote in massive numbers. Crush the voter participation vulnerability that's being exploited. I'd love to see that.


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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2018, 10:51:52 am »
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I've noticed ones opinion on guns correlates largely with the area and culture they grew up in. In high density population areas guns are considered dangerous and associated primarily with criminal activity. In areas of less population density most households own at least 1 gun and they're associated with hunting and kept in the house for self defense. There's around ~300 million guns in the U.S. and 99.9% of them are owned by responsible law abiding citizens who don't go around shooting people. About 70 percent of the counties in the U.S. have no more than one murder per year, with 54 percent of counties experiencing zero murders. The problem is the people who do shoot people make every other gun owner look bad. 5 percent of the counties account for more than two-thirds of homicides.

This is currently a hot topic but the rate of gun violence has actually continued to trend down over time (see attached pic)

Over 80% of gun homicides are associated with inner city gang violence. In 2010-11 8900 of 11000 gun homicides were gang related:

http://jpfo.org/articles-assd03/gun-stats-perspective.htm

These deaths are primarily due to handguns. Specifically, People carrying hand guns purchased illegally without concealed carry permits. These gang related deaths have 2 things in common:

1. They're from broken single parent homes
2. They're high school dropouts

High school dropouts make up 13% of the population but over 80% of all the crime in this country, particularly violent crime.

Mass shootings get sensationalized but statistically they're almost irrelevant. What all mass shooters have in common is a history of mental illness and use of psychotropic drugs.  The Florida parkland shooter had the cops out to his house over 30 times due to his acting out:

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CCHR International’s investigation into school violence reveals that at least 36 school shootings and/or school-related acts of violence have been committed by those taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs resulting in 172 wounded and 80 killed (in other school shootings, information about their drug use was never made public—neither confirming or refuting if they were under the influence of prescribed drugs or undergone other behavioral therapy.)[2] At least 27 international drug regulatory agency warnings have been issued on psychiatric drugs being linked to mania, violence, hostility, aggression, psychosis, and homicidal ideation (thoughts or fantasies of homicide that can be planned).

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For years, Cruz had been a client at Henderson Behavioral Health in Florida, until the fall of 2017.[7] For years, there were reports of his self-harm, cutting his arms, trouble controlling his temper, aggression, assaulting students, verbal abuse, banging his head, and yet in 2016, a therapist with Henderson Mental Health “deemed Nikolas to be no threat to anyone or himself at this present time,” according to the police report.[8] Teachers disciplined him and referred him to counseling and police responded to at least 36 emergency 911 calls to his home over a six year period

https://www.cchrint.org/2018/02/20/school-shootings-mental-health-watchdog-says-psychotropic-drug-use-by-school-shooters-merits-federal-investigation/

What both the inner city gang shooters and mass shooters have in common is growing up without a father in the home:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/19/missing-fathers-and-americas-broken-boys-vast-majority-mass-shooters-come-from-broken-homes.html

When we get right down to it gun violence is a symptom of the moral decline of the country. 

The problem I see is most people have poor information and ideas being proposed won't work. I think it's a mistake all these marches seem to be about banning AR 15's instead of the broader issues. I don't think banning specific weapons will do a thing. Here are some ideas that will:

1. Expand and increase background check enforcement and include mental health checks into background checks. There are some people who shouldn't be anywhere near a gun. We need to do a better job identifying and enforcing those people. If a kid is getting a prescription for psychotropic meds the parents should have to fill out a form acknowledging they know & accept the risk.

2. Increase security and metal detectors at schools. I'm also not again the idea of allowing some teachers to carry. It depends on the environment and the teacher. Where I grew up half the male teachers were avid hunters and would be quick to sign up. 

3. Areas with high inner city gang related homicides should emulate NY city. NY city has very strict gun ownership laws, particularly for handguns. If you're caught with a handgun without a permit the penalties are severe. NY city lowered their homicides from 2245 in 1990 to 290 in 2017. That's less than the 404 they had in 1928. As mentioned ~80% of all homicides are inner city gang related using illegally owned firearms without a permit.
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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #64 on: April 20, 2018, 10:56:39 pm »
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My dad told me today, that my neighbor's (a few houses down) daughter's boyfriend was killed in the Parkland shooting. It was a holy sh*t moment because it clicked & I recognized him. I had a few brief interactions with him, he often walked their dogs etc.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-nick-dworet-memorial-20180221-story.html

https://obittree.com/obituary/us/florida/north-lauderdale/serenity-funeral-home-and-cremation/nicholas-dworet/3431101/

dno just crazy. brutal.

so she was @ UCF (college) while he was down here still, last year in H.S. And he was about to go swim to Indiana or something, seems like he wanted to make the Olympics. brutal.

?hl=en&taken-by=dnicm

?hl=en&taken-by=dnicm

Dude seemed sharp, motivated, etc. brutal.



He snapped this photo of his gf @ the Tamarac Turkey Trot in 2016. Sad seeing people's social media after they pass, just feels weird.

?hl=en&taken-by=dnicm


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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #66 on: September 02, 2019, 03:35:32 pm »
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such a crazy statement.

https://twitter.com/RepMattSchaefer/status/1167989418696663041

TLDR: to end gun violence, pray harder

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What can we do? YES to praying for victims. YES to praying for protection. YES to praying that God would transform the hearts of people with evil intent. YES to fathers not leaving their wives and children. YES to discipline in the homes. 4/6