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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2018, 08:57:28 am »
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/02/15/he-died-a-hero-assistant-football-coach-among-17-dead-in-florida-school-shooting/?utm_term=.3a644b25f704

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An assistant football coach, a popular wrestling coach and athletic director, a cross-country coach and several athletes were among the victims of Wednesday’s mass shooting at a Florida high school.



Pine Trails park is close by. might go. dno.

Going to a small Sunday run probably, Coral Springs Runner's Depot .. bunch of people I know are going.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2018, 09:19:15 pm »
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at this town hall with the MSD students/victims, a victim's father whose daughter was killed, is going right after Rubio.

that was intense.

that's the kind of stuff I love to see. he didn't let him skate. great stuff.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2018, 09:24:30 pm »
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"My generation, we did not get it done. You will get it done."

-- Sheriff Scott Isreal (To the students)



The most refreshing thing i've heard in a while.



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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2018, 01:52:54 pm »
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this made it to one of the random IG's I follow.



apparently the run i'm doing on Sunday will be a run to MSD (the school that got attacked).. didn't know that until today. I imagine it'll be huge... apparently the local running community is going to show up in big numbers, as well as probably lots of locals. figured it was going to just be a small run but, seems like it's going to be a "big event".

interesting.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2018, 11:09:43 am »
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/22/politics/donald-trump-gun-reforms-school-shooting/index.html

I'm not going to lie this shooting and responses like this have made me very pessimistic about the state of the US in general. Incompetent leader, money interests that prevent any rational change, massive political divisiveness, information warfare, etc. there's a lot to overcome.

A deputy with 20+ years experience couldn't properly react to the shooting but you want to train teachers to be soldier teachers. It's just one of the many things that I don't understand how 95% of people can't say wowww that is the worst fucking idea I've ever heard in my life. This guy is an absolute moron
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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #52 on: February 27, 2018, 11:11:57 am »
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/22/politics/donald-trump-gun-reforms-school-shooting/index.html

I'm not going to lie this shooting and responses like this have made me very pessimistic about the state of the US in general. Incompetent leader, money interests that prevent any rational change, massive political divisiveness, information warfare, etc. there's a lot to overcome.

A deputy with 20+ years experience couldn't properly react to the shooting but you want to train teachers to be soldier teachers. It's just one of the many things that I don't understand how 95% of people can't say wowww that is the worst fucking idea I've ever heard in my life. This guy is an absolute moron

Well said man.. :/

While I don't think arming teachers & specifically training them is a solution, AT ALL: I am kind of on the fence somewhat about whether teachers, who would have to pass some insanely intense vetting/training, could carry in the event that they have to defend themselves and those around them, especially in cases where there isn't adequate security. Though, to many, a teacher carrying/holstering a weapon could make for a stressful learning environment. As an example, once I knew a co-worker literally had a desert eagle in his backpack, I was always much more "nervous" around him -> even though he seemed like a great dude. On the flipside to that, if anything were to happen in that building, i'd have felt much more comfortable knowing this guy had a weapon. I come from it from the standpoint of someone who has been targeted a few times out on the streets: I feel absolutely naked without my knife on me. A knife is nothing compared to a gun, but I basically feel like a "sitting duck" without my knife. When I forget it (which is extremely rare), I feel completely different, much more vulnerable. I've been meaning to get my concealed weapons license, and at that point, I might actually carry a gun on me at times - in certain situations. The US is so fucking dangerous. The other solution is to leave the US - which has been on my mind for quite some time. If I was responsible for 30+ children/young adults, I might opt for the ability to defend them in the case where no one was able to come to our defense. If I were a parent, i'd be nervous at every scenario: armed teachers, easy access to high powered assault style weapons, not enough security on school grounds etc. The "cat is out of the bag" though at this point. If schools were to all be magically fortified & secured, mass shooters would just move on to easier targets. It's whack-a-mole at this point, with the common thread being: easy access to assault weapons. So, regardless of what I just typed, the key to me is the weapons themselves. It should be so damn hard to get a weapon that could be used in a mass shooting, handgun or rifle. ie, a 6 shot revolver should be easier to get, given strict background checks & no private sales/loopholes, but a damn AR15 or 15 shot glock should be hard as fu*k to get.

Typed that up real fast, about to head out. But, i'm definitely in support of people being able to defend themselves, especially given all of the overlooked red flags/incidents that happen in pretty much all of these cases. If the "state" can't protect us, well the 2nd amendment gives us the ability to protect ourselves, so i'm definitely not anti-gun. But, they should be so damn hard to get & require re-certification and the ability for the gov to confiscate them given legitimate threats etc.

Beyond that, if we could just magically remove all guns, i'd be in favor of that. But until then, the regulations/loopholes/etc need to be tightened the fuck up. This shit is ridiculous. In FL, I could buy an AR15 and sell it to a psycho, no intermediary background checks, nothing: private sale. Stuff like that is an absolute disgrace. Anyone who lobbies for that, along with all of the other bullshit they do to try and push more guns out onto the streets, is just as guilty IMHO.

Finally.. all of the blaming of video games, movies, etc.. I agree with some of it in the broader context of the US being a violent culture. I mean violent games/movies/music can influence people who are already violent etc. But it's absolutely laughable when you think of it in the context of violent foreign & domestic policy of the US.

This country IS violence. It's all around us.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #53 on: February 27, 2018, 06:30:33 pm »
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^^ also just to clarify, I personally feel safer around responsible people with guns. I mentioned feeling nervous around that co-worker but, didn't know him well. A current co-worker of mine has a CWL & weapon, so did 2 of my previous co-workers. Never felt/feel nervous around them. So just adding that.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #54 on: February 27, 2018, 06:50:12 pm »
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This is pretty rough IMHO... :/

A teammate/classmate of one of the kids who was killed - "guac", whose dad I saw speak the other night.



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I love you bro. I met you in 3rd grade and we were competitors that came best friends. Our 2 teachers were best friends and at every recess we competed. There came a time my class and your class got into a fight and we were sent to the principals office. I was good friends with Andrew and Dillon as they were in my 5th grade class and when I went to private school in 6th grade I hung out with them a lot and you were always over at their house. We became very good friends. I switched back to Westglades for 7th and I had a lot of classes with you. My favorite class with you was mr. Engle. We had a blast everyday and I always looked forward to it. It was one of the best school years I ever had. Almost every Friday me u Dillon and Andrew would walk to Walmart and get food and walk to your house and chill. You became one my best friends very fast. I love you man and wish this never happened. From all the times we went to the park, the back and forth roastings in the group chats....I miss you guac. You were my biggest support. You pushed me to be my greatest and made me step out my comfort zone. I couldn’t believe you were missing when I heard. I called every hospital you could’ve possibly been at and even checked under the anonymous check ins if I can get any description that matched you. I was praying I was able to deliver some good news to your parents. This past week has been so rough and it really hit me when I went to go see you cross in the park tonight. I had no words to say or think until I really sat there crying. You were loved By everyone and put a smile on everyone’s face that came in contact with you. I was just talking to you 2 hours before during the first fire drill and you were telling me how you missed the game winning shot the night before and I told you don’t worry bro you will bounce back and get it next game... Writing this is really helping me feel sane. And the fact that the fbi knew about a possible shooting just kills me. This could’ve been prevented. On everything if I had the chance I would jumped in and took the bullet for you. You will always be apart of me pushing me to be my best. #brosquad #shiftteam #family #douglasstrong

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #55 on: February 27, 2018, 07:04:30 pm »
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swastikas on the magazine clips, 180 rounds left, apparently wanted to shoot down on people - sniper style.. also, not sure if it's worth mentioning: MAGA hats.

insane.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #57 on: March 03, 2018, 08:24:24 pm »
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http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/donald-trump-florida-school-shooting-claim-ridicule-stephen-colbert-trevor-noah-seth-meyers-late-a8232011.html

man it's interesting.. i haven't been able to watch political comedy for several months now.. maybe since June or so. It's very hard for me to laugh at Trump, he disgusts me. Most of his cabinet disgusts me. The whitehouse disgusts me. People who defend his inane nonsense disgust me. So yea, I used to watch Bill Maher and such, can't even do it anymore. I just can't laugh at it.. being able to "laugh" at trump, basically died within me. I just get angry instead, and then I try to distract myself with something positive.

such a fucking wreck.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2018, 10:01:03 am »
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saw this photo on CSPD (one of the police departments involved in the MSD thing)



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One very powerful image as we heal. #MSDStrong

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It's definitely powerful. Though, the weapon on the back of this hero's shirt adds a bit of brutal irony to it. One day our symbols of strength & courage might need to be re-evaluated, who knows. Great photo though.

Like I keep saying .. in the US, violence is all around us. Something as simple as that, can be misinterpreted by developing children .. i mean, what the fuck is strong about that rifle? the eagle - cool... the rifle? uhh.. :/

dno, just seems like an unnecessary symbol without much thought put into it.. easy to just drop a gun/weapon into something and act like it's strong.

put that hug on the back of that shirt.

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Re: Guns in America
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2018, 01:18:24 pm »
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hell the fuck yes.

Sarah Chadwick FTW.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/377094-parkland-student-warns-nra-spokeswoman-your-time-is-running-out

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