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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: no bounce, need bounce
« on: April 29, 2010, 02:36:19 pm »
Food poisoning yesterday = no workout yesterday or probably today.  >:( Diarrhea started around 6:30, puking around 8:30. In all I think I made 12-15 trips to the porcelain throne including six or seven times getting up in the night. I'm sort of okay now, but very dehydrated. And all I've eaten and kept down in the past 22 hours is a piece and a half of toast and some orange juice. Oh and a couple of saltines.

Also, I have epic DOMS in my glutes. From the BSS, I'm pretty sure. I think the food poisoning probably didn't help with this.

damn that sucks.. what gave you the poisoning, any idea?

btw when you are feeling better check pm hehe!

pesto at this restaurant near my office. my coworker and i both ate it, we both got sick. the other person we were with had something else and is fine. gonna go try to get our money back tomorrow.

saw your pm but what little brainpower i have at the moment is devoted to work. :P i'll give it a good look later on. thanks.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: no bounce, need bounce
« on: April 29, 2010, 11:28:08 am »
Food poisoning yesterday = no workout yesterday or probably today.  >:( Diarrhea started around 6:30, puking around 8:30. In all I think I made 12-15 trips to the porcelain throne including six or seven times getting up in the night. I'm sort of okay now, but very dehydrated. And all I've eaten and kept down in the past 22 hours is a piece and a half of toast and some orange juice. Oh and a couple of saltines.

Also, I have epic DOMS in my glutes. From the BSS, I'm pretty sure. I think the food poisoning probably didn't help with this.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: no bounce, need bounce
« on: April 28, 2010, 08:29:40 am »
you are strong :)

Thanks mang. I think I'm one of the stronger people on the forum at the moment just in terms of weight, but that's small comfort cause pretty much everyone can jump, or at least reach, higher than I can. Oh well...

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when you do vert in training do you measure it?

If not, I suggest starting, it makes it easier to track progress and at least for me sets a clear goal as an incentive.

Sort of, but we don't have a vertec at my gym and it's hard to measure running or approach jumps with a vert mat. Plus the manager keeps forgetting to bring the mat back from the other branch of my (small) gym. There's a strap hanging down from the ceiling with a kind of buckle on the end that's around rim height, although I'm not sure exactly how high. I jump to that, so I see how I'm doing mostly by how much above the buckle I can get my fingers. But you're right, it would be awesome to be able to measure every time. If anyone knows of a gym or place in DC that has a vertec, let me know.

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Are you in college?

Nope.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: no bounce, need bounce
« on: April 27, 2010, 10:05:27 pm »
Work ran long today (and will the rest of the week...and weekend...oof). So didn't get to sprint as I'd planned with one of my teammates. Pissed about that. Also, felt super unreactive.

Warm up
usual

Work
ankle hops to low box 3x10
DLRVJ x~15 -- maybe one or two of these were okay; the rest felt like shit. Worth noting that the only one I can remember being good is one where I got pissed and just attacked the thingy I jump up to.
squat jump 3x3x95 -- yikes
squat 6x1x295 w/20-30s rest -- felt great
BSS 3x8/legx110 -- ouch
superset x3
  • dip x10xbw
  • pull up x6xbw

cool down
stretch

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Crazy Weird Analysis & Stuff :) / Re: Various Jumpers: Plants
« on: April 27, 2010, 06:46:08 pm »
Gotta find some pics of myself for comparison: the first thing I notice is how low most of them are. I don't think I get low enough to get real power. Too worried about getting off the ground fast. But if I try to get lower, I overthink it.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: no bounce, need bounce
« on: April 26, 2010, 10:56:11 pm »
Warm up
air squats
divebombers
usual

Work
ankle hops 3x10
glute bridge 2x15x3s
SVJ 2x5
core circuit xouch

Cool down
stretch

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: no bounce, need bounce
« on: April 26, 2010, 06:21:11 pm »
After tryouts on Saturday, a couple of the guys and I got in a big triangle (40-80 yards on a side...we were running around) and just practiced hucks for half an hour. Completing a big huck (aka a deep throw to a receiver cutting away from you towards the end zone) is pretty much the best feeling ever in ultimate, other than skying somebody or laying out past somebody for a big D. But my form is garbage after the winter so my throws were all over the place and my elbow hurt like shit yesterday. Haha, oh well, worth it. I'll get my groove back by summer, elbow shouldn't be a problem.

Couldn't work out yesterday so I'm gonna just push everything back a day for this week.

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Yeah, that's sick man, who cares if you missed? Gettin' up is good. Plus, looks like it's going in in the pic, could have fooled all of us  ;).

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: no bounce, need bounce
« on: April 24, 2010, 06:41:49 pm »
Workout today: Tryouts. Two hours of drills and scrimmaging. Really fun.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: post activation potentiation
« on: April 24, 2010, 06:36:37 pm »
@ tkxii

NP, just PM me your address.

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Article & Video Discussion / post activation potentiation
« on: April 23, 2010, 10:07:58 am »

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Track & Field / Re: LaShawn Merritt Wuz Cheatingz
« on: April 23, 2010, 09:31:24 am »
The best part is his excuse. He just wanted a bigger dick, man!

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Olympic Weightlifting / Re: World's Strongest Teenager - WTF
« on: April 23, 2010, 09:30:34 am »
I knew you were lurking on the Island.  ;D

Or did you see it somewhere else? Either way, I gotta cut back on going to that place, it's addictive. And either way, that kid is ric :o ckulously strong.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: no bounce, need bounce
« on: April 22, 2010, 10:28:37 pm »
Warm up
jump rope 30/30 x5mins
usual
glute bridge 2x15x3s

Work
low-box ankle hops 3x20
DLRVJ x30ish -- very inconsistent but a couple of the jumps were decent
jump squat 2x95, 95, 95, 95, 2x95 -- 30s rest between sets
bench 3x5x185
DB rows 3x10x60
GHR x5 -- I'm doing these wrong

row 30/30 x10, setting 7, avg. 1:38/500m -- hard

Cool down
stretch

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Go watch a video of someone doing a sumo dead lift properly. Maybe this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r--etdWUmc0. You will notice that the dude sets, gets all the tension out of his arms and shoulders, and pulls smoothly off the ground. What you do is grab the bar and jerk upwards. Even your head jerks around. Sure, you might be getting stronger, but like Adam. said, the toll on your joints will catch up with you no matter how "clean" you eat.

My philosophy is to use momentum as required . . . with the joints in my spine, neck, shoulders, ankles, knees, hips, elbows...because that is what occurs during a vertical jump. During a sumo deadlift, you are sumo deadlifting. During this exercise I posted, you are performing a jump and it neeeds to be jerky. THis isn't unconventional wisdom really, but if you want to powerflit, powerlift. If you want to be an athlete you should use as much momentum as possible, unless you want to avoid using the joints that particular day.

Jumps aren't jerky, they're smooth and fluid. Or should be. Go watch the t-dub videos. Nothing about him is jerky. He's springy, but you look like someone just grabbed you and shook you hard. Of course, during a sumo dead lift, you are sumo dead lifting. You are also increasing the strength of your glutes, hams and spinal erectors. And, to a lesser extent, your arms, upper back and shoulders. All of which play a role in jumping. Just as there is no perfect transfer from sumo dead lifting to jumping, there is no perfect transfer from running up to the bar and jerking it towards your hips to jumping. The only perfect transfer to jumping is from jumping. The goal of strength training (unless, as you say, you're a power lifter) is to strengthen your muscles so that they will produce more force when you practice or perform athletic movements either on their own or while playing a sport.

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Your fencing thing is also the result of diet, and it is still curable.

I have a bone spur in my left foot, on the first metatarsal of my left big toe. Repeated friction between the proximal phalanx and first metatarsal caused the cartilage to wear down and bone to grow in as a reaction. Fencing does not cause this problem in most people, but A) my posture was bad, and B) the surface of the proximal phalanx is too flat; I was born that way. Diet does not enter the equation in my case. Same as ligament tears, tennis elbow, pick your poison. Ask an orthopedic surgeon how big a role diet plays in herniated discs relative to chronic or acute trauma to the spine.

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Squats don't work for me - I have mild scoliosis so extra pressure is on my lower back (since my upper back is curved). And deadlifts hit the back too much.

Fair enough.

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THis is essentially a trap bar deadlift.

No, it's not. It's a straight-bar-straddling jerky dead lift. And anyway, why wouldn't you just do a trap bar dead lift? I've done jump squats with the trap bar. Feels great. I mean, I get that you're trying to use momentum but that...doesn't...make...sense.

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This exercise was inspired by something I've seen form Nick Nillson, who performs weirder exercises that you would thinka re worse for your joints. Anyway, why are you even asking 'why I'm reinventing the wheel?' THe mere fact that your mind is clouded with that thought prevents you from being rational about this. I'm doing something that I think works and feels right for me.

I'm asking why you're reinventing the wheel because there are dozens of different exercises that have been used for decades if not centuries by the best athletes the world has ever seen, with great results and great safety. With such a large menu of effective, safe exercises, why would you try to come up with one on your own that might not be as effective as some other exercise that already exists, and might be unsafe? But what do I know? If you feel like you're making gains with it then knock yourself out.

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I've followed lyle mcdonald for a while, he's awesome.  However Alan aragon tries hard, but clean eating is a complex issue and no one has it down right. I eat fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, (including peanuts a legume), seaweeds, and fermented foods. That's clean, pasteurized dairy/chicken and 180 grams of peptide-bonded protein that is difficult tto digest. I haven't read everything form him though so I'll leave the browser open, he has some good stuff but I can't agree with all of it. I eat Raw Food, extremely beneficial, and the science is coming in now. Nutrition science is quite a new field..and there are a lot of questions being answered wrongly and correctly. If you trust what the FDA says, you're not enjoying the best health out there.

I would bet my life and the lives of my immediate family members (five lives in total, for the record) that Lyle agrees with Alan that the raw food movement is largely full of shit. I've certainly seen him mock "clean" eating on many occasions. Like every day. Sure, there may be cases where raw food might be indicated or beneficial. But that movement is just like Paleo, or Zone, or Atkins, or any other diet fad. A small group of people find something that they think works for them, decide that for that reason it must work for everyone to the exclusion of all other diets, and then promote it zealously, evidence be damned. Or they take a few independently correct things and create an entire dogma about them. Take a deeper look at Alan's stuff.

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What is hilarious is that I had a HUGE debate on milk on mind and muscle forums, a great forum, and how I believe pasteurized milk really does kill your joints. You're not going to find a correct answer through large scale studies, because there are equal amounts showing it improves bone health and that it reduces or has absolutely no benefit to bones/muscle. It's the individual's special situation that determines if whatever food is right..but overall, pasteurized milk and other dairy products are linked to joint problems, and most importantly, are INFLAMMATORY. How do people come to this conclusion when there are so many LARGE studies showing the opposite? Small scale, CASE studies which provide us with a more narrow/specific insight, although there are enormous amounts of scientific data showing milk is not helping bone problems.


You want to talk about sample sizes of one? I drink a ton of milk and have since I was a little kid. Beyond the aforementioned toe issue (unrelated to diet, as discussed) and some hypermobility (completely and utterly genetic and thus also unrelated to diet), I have no joint issues at all. And great digestion. You should see my shits, dude. Beautiful.

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My problem with large studies is that they disregard so many variables... and that people belive what the study says without questioning what was missing using their own logic.

The irony of this statement defies belief.

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Stop drinking dairy and your foot or whatever may improve. My friend was a workout buff and got injured all the time, he does not drink dairy anymore and seems to be doing better. It's these individual testimoies I trust more that extremely large studies which are generally easier to interpret than the more detailed specific case studies. Has anyone studied what happens to your joints after high impact loading consuming bee pollen, spirulina, colostrum, velvet deer antler, cacao, hemp seeds.... not yet, but I look forward to when I get the chance.

Good for your friend. Maybe he was lactose intolerant. Or maybe milk had nothing to do with it. I've never heard of milk causing or promoting injuries. Explosive farts, sure. If you have studies to back that up, please share them. As I've said above, the chances approach zero that drinking milk had a role in my toe condition. And I'm not about to stop drinking milk because protein is essential to gain muscle (or to prevent loss if gains are not desired) and milk contains cheap, easily if slowly digestible (there, I said it--but then I'm NOT lactose intolerant*), high-quality protein. I also eat chicken, beef, pork, and fish. And enjoy every minute of it when I do. Eggs, too. Those are also good sources of very high-quality protein and fat. Not to mention they're hella good for you. That's right.

All that being said, the only individual testimony that should matter is your own to yourself. If you feel good and are making gains on the raw/fermented food kick, power to you. Don't listen to me or anyone else. Incidentally, it'd be awfully hard to do a serious study on the effects on joint health of consuming pollen or hemp seeds or whatever after high-impact loading because the effect of high impact loading (depth jumps, improper form while fencing, etc.) is cumulative. It takes years and years sometimes to become a problem. I hope you pull off a study someday because it'd be a fascinating read. No joke or sarcasm there, I'm serious. But my doubts about your finding positive results are thiiiiiiiiiis big (I'm now holding my arms out as far as they'll go...there).

The biggest thing that I've learned from Lyle and Alan (and others) is that everything has its place, and you should do everything in moderation most of the time. Raw food might work great for some people but as a general prescription it is more likely to be wrong than not.

*Nor do I have Celiac...so I can eat all the grain I want! And, as I said before, my digestion works like a god damn charm. It's all in the shits, man.

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