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very powerful/fast hip flexion is going to influence max velocity of a sprint, not movements in basketball.

ok you mentioned their are a zillion things you can do, name some more?

pc


Never felt any soreness in my hip flexors from squatting


rect fem/vl also act as hip flexors, squat works them.. hip flexion isn't restricted to illiopsoas..

i was wondering if you would catch my "squat doesn't work hip flexors" a few posts back.. but you didn't.

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why are hip flexors important for basketball performance?

They will increase your stride rate/turnover/first step explosion. It's the hip flexors that connect your legs to your body (the core) which is where all the power stems from.

not much hip flexion in a first step... not much hip flexion in really quick short distance movements..

not much stride frequency going on in short distance movements....

stride frequency is less in accel than in max V, not much max V going on in basketball...

i just dont see how da hip flexors create so much splosion?



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Think of the cycling action. Your legs spinning, with every backward rep your increasing that burn/power/strength in the hip flexors.

all the power comes from the core? news to me..

explain how all of the power comes from the core? is there some kind of magic going on that i don't know about? holdup, must be that boing vert secret society shit.

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everything i mentioned above relates to producing more force relative to ones bodyweight, which means more power, which means better first step quickness, acceleration, jumping ability, change of direction, etc.

i explained to you how it would, now you explain to me how it won't? explain to me how adding 100 lb to ones squat would not benefit them athletically, given bodyweight & rep speed remains relatively the same.

But realistically I can't see how much an elite NBA player would gain by adding 100lbs to his squat considering since he can already play ball, run & dunk to a high enough standard which already possesses.  


elite basketball doesn't imply elite athlete....

so tony parker wouldn't benefit from increasing his squat 100 lb?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRwzNubPUc0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRwzNubPUc0</a>

he's obviously not accomplished then, he can't dunk.. even tho he got rings.



what about this guy?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMmDh4nVJ7Y" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMmDh4nVJ7Y</a>

he can actually dunk though, just had a bad jump, he's more accomplished than tony parker.




would increasing ones squat 100 lb yield to any improvements in athleticism? if no, why not?




pc

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very powerful/fast hip flexion is going to influence max velocity of a sprint, not movements in basketball.

ok you mentioned their are a zillion things you can do, name some more?

pc


Ah man.

When you push forwards your working the mainly the glutes/quads.

Pulling back hits your hip flexors. Like I said man, you need to go out & train it.

Never felt any soreness in my hip flexors from squatting, nor did they make them very powerful. Anyone who cycles & pulls back on the pedal stroke will seriously increase there first step explosion.

There is no point me naming anymore, you shoot everything down. You HAVE to do the exercise( s) man. THEN shoot it down if it don't work.


why are hip flexors important for basketball performance?

no one said squatting should target your hip flexors.

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an increase in relative strength? the ability to produce/handle 100 lb more of tension? the ability to move previously intense weights at a faster speed due to the increase? the ability to voluntarily tap into more motor units? the possibility that significant hypertrophy has occurred? the transfer of this strength to jumping is very high considering the specificity of the exercise? the increases in testosterone/igf-1/hGH that has occurred during the process of such training, yielding plenty of benefits in not only the training itself, but the recovery process and overall arousal of the athlete for practices & sport?

Can't really see how this would make a player all that much better?.

everything i mentioned above relates to producing more force relative to ones bodyweight, which means more power, which means better first step quickness, acceleration, jumping ability, change of direction, etc.

i explained to you how it would, now you explain to me how it won't? explain to me how adding 100 lb to ones squat would not benefit them athletically, given bodyweight & rep speed remains relatively the same.




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He can already play ball, run & dunk.  

cool story.



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He's already an accomplished athlete from what he's already doing.

yet another cool story.

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btw, explain to me why "pulling back on the pedal stroke" would utilize the hip flexors as the prime movers?

doesn't make much sense.

You just have to try it man. It's the most intense hip flexor exercise there is.

it's more intense than direct hip flexor training, which actually targets the hip flexors as prime movers?

sure you are hip flexing during cycling, but "pulling back on the pedal stroke" is mentioning something that is hamstring/glute dominant, not hip flexor... your hip flexors work in sprinting also, but they aren't the prime movers, they help assist the prime movers through the cross flexion/extension reflex, but they are not doing the mechanical work on the ground causing locomotion.

regardless, you're advocating an exercise that has 091204912% less transfer than squatting would be to improving basketball speed/quickness/vert.

since when do the hip flexors matter much anyway in basketball? it's a game of short acceleration, there's no MAX-VELOCITY, it's not like you're going to need maximal turnover speed over 10-20 yards... instead however, you will need to learn how to produce alot of force, fast, at the very early portions of acceleration, which is determined by knee extension & hip extension, as well as powerful thigh abduction/adduction for defensive slide movements..

very powerful/fast hip flexion is going to influence max velocity of a sprint, not movements in basketball.

ok you mentioned their are a zillion things you can do, name some more?

pc

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michael jordan was never content.

if he could find a way to improve his athleticism even microscopically, he would do it.. same with kobe.. same with all of the "killers".

you are basically advocating that athletes should be content, which is polar opposite of being an athlete.

So tell me what the weight room/100lb squat increase would achieve?.

an increase in relative strength? the ability to produce/handle 100 lb more of tension? the ability to move previously intense weights at a faster speed due to the increase? the ability to voluntarily tap into more motor units? the possibility that significant hypertrophy has occurred? the transfer of this strength to jumping is very high considering the specificity of the exercise? the increases in testosterone/igf-1/hGH that has occurred during the process of such training, yielding plenty of benefits in not only the training itself, but the recovery process and overall arousal of the athlete for practices & sport?

now it's your turn to explain to me how "pulling back on the pedal stroke" somehow targets the hip flexors hard? because "pulling back" and "hip flexor" are polar opposites.

explain?

LMAO DYING.

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That proves your a troll.



That proves your a troll.

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That proves your a troll.







just laughed my fucking ass off at the increasing text size.......

check my sig in like 2minutes from time of posting this.

roflmaomsofmasofalmamao


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ROFLMFAOOMGROFL.


But you have never felt the burn that you get in the hip flexors from pulling back on the pedal stroke, you have never done the exercise in your life.

Squatting ain't doing shit for your hip flexors blu.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

btw, explain to me why "pulling back on the pedal stroke" would utilize the hip flexors as the prime movers?

doesn't make much sense...........................................


HAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

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Didn't you used to have Bruce Lee as your avatar?  Didn't Bruce Lee say "Never be satisfied"

You're basically saying, if you can dunk and ball, BE SATISFIED LOL


Adarq, you can already dunk, STOP SQUATTING lol...

You going off on completely different tangents man.

If Adarq wants to increase his vert, that's him, not NBA players that can already dunk & may not feel like the need to increase there verts.



michael jordan was never content.

if he could find a way to improve his athleticism even microscopically, he would do it.. same with kobe.. same with all of the "killers".

you are basically advocating that athletes should be content, which is polar opposite of being an athlete.

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Didn't you used to have Bruce Lee as your avatar?  Didn't Bruce Lee say "Never be satisfied"

You're basically saying, if you can dunk and ball, BE SATISFIED LOL


Adarq, you can already dunk, STOP SQUATTING lol...

true, i'm going to stop squatting and pick myself up one of these:



going to honk in the plant to cause a fight or flight response and jump 10" higher.

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name some, other than skill work?

Road cycling, pulling back on the pedal stroke increases the power in your hip flexors/turnover of your legs.

LMFAO.




That proves your a troll.

ROFLMFAO.

hey guys, if you want to become faster in an impact based movement, you should utilize non-impact based systems which do not improve maxS or exS such as road cycling, pulling back on the pedal stroke.

make sure to go to a bicycle shop to get your seat height adjusted properly or it won't transfer as much to basketball movements!!!

also, wear bicycle shorts while playing basketball, the compressive nature of the shorts increases stiffness and temperature of muscle resulting in more force. Get rid of those baggy shorts!!



finally, I advise mounting one of these on your shoulder in case someone is setting a pick on you, just give it a nice honk and they should move immediately.

ROFLMFAOOMGROFL.


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name some, other than skill work?

Road cycling, pulling back on the pedal stroke increases the power in your hip flexors/turnover of your legs.

LMFAO.

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I am seriously astonished at how badly you are still not comprehending my arguments.  So if an NBA player can dunk, there's no use of him squatting anymore?  So the added squat strength which can help one jump higher, be quicker on O and D, and absorb more contact cannot help a player be even better?  Is dunking the end goal?  Is being able to dunk the final stage in athletic development?

If somehow you answer yes to that question, I will stop posting on here.

Well since he can already dunk, how much higher does he need to jump?.

A zillion things can make you quicker on O and D, don't need to squat.

Absorb more contact?. Wouldn't martial arts & boxing be more beneficial?.

name some, other than skill work?

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and?

And I'm trying to workout what the benefits of adding 100lbs to your squat would be?.

improved athleticism?



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And how this would further increase a bballers existing potential since he can already play ball & dunk.

so by your twisted logic, why would a player do anything other than maintenance because they can "already play ball & dunk".. why push yourself, you can already "play ball and dunk".. don't work on your jumper, strength, conditioning, etc.. YOU CAN ALREADY "PLAY BALL AND DUNK" aka you're an "accomplished athlete".

once you reach that accomplished athlete status, no need to push yourself anymore.. just coast!

strong outlook.




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oh really?.

There all athletes. Can't sit & watch & TV all day man.

what? your reply to my comment makes no sense.




Remember they can already play ball & dunk already.

and?


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There accomplished athletes.

oh really? they all have multiple nba championships? mvp status? hall of fame? etc?


what does already accomplished mean? being in the nba makes you accomplished? what if you're on the bench but still in the nba? what if you never win a title? what if you never make the allstar team?

seems to me you don't know what being an athlete is about? athletes are constantly trying to improve their game, but they get bad guidance in terms of power/speed. the majority of them spend all day in the BASKETBALL-gym working on their game, but then neglect the weightroom.

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