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Thing is raptor you didn't finish the deal by getting lean at the same time as you were strong. That's the part I always failed at too. I think until you've got all those ducks in a row, it's hard to say you're only capable of X.

I love the NFL combine! I like to compare my numbers to similar sized athletes to see how far away I am lol!

By contrast....the NBA combine is a joke, specimen wise.

The NBA combine is a joke because the cream of the crop don't bother doing it? But thankfully sometimes you get the player who was not hyped going into the draft and therefore does participate in the draft but blossoms into a great player and in that case, there is a draft result to look back on.

I think treadmill is fine for conditioning and the reason given (low impact on joints) isn't a very good one. But rowing is cool too, just keep your form good and you'll get stronger and fitter which is nice. I think running important though, so keep some kind of 10-20min run in your program just for the fantastic recovery benefits it provides. I recover so well from basketball now that I am regularly running. Used to feel sore and beaten up after bball, a lot fresher than I'd be otherwise.

IN comparison here is my approach and plant from a jump today

I am interested in his plant technique in particular. I noticed a very long penultimate L step and it's quite low too (is this a consequence of his fib being a small length?).

And then i also noticed when he brings his jumping R foot it's not brought to the level of the planted L foot, it seems to be further forward? (is this desirable, i think my feet end up adjacent on plant). Does the leading foot being further forward help get lower?

Finally I also noticed that when he brings through his leading foot he doesn't land heel first (I DO!). I s this another flaw to address? Will I just higher/better with landing on my forefoot?!

It's weird though. I find that if I do a full or half court lay-up and just do it naturally I get some decent height but when I try and put that extra 10% in I have issues.

^that's a great observation. if i think of a layup to end a fast break, i'll invariably go off one (though im a better DL jumper by far) and i'll still get good height. But with a dunk i just feel so alien approaching with any kind of speed that it feels nothing like a dunk attempt ought to. Im not even saying it's mental, obviously the physical situation is very different in a 2-3 step dunk attempt vs a fast break one. I'd like to do some tests and figure out how to break the fast break dunk into trainable pieces and work at it. This friday hopefully, i'll have a court to myself and can take video. If there is anything i should be experimenting with/testing let me know.

Right. It's a waste of time to go the gym only to do that gimmicky stuff. However, maybe to them going to lift iis more of an active recovery thing? where they get to mess around a little without training hard (i guess that's what happens on the court?). But that said, if you are going to the gym to lift weight to get stronger and more athletic then it's clearly a waste of time. It depends on what they're trying to get out of it.

Chris I agree during season but we're talking about off-season training. No doubt you can't lift heavy throughout the season but i imagine once the season starts you could maintain 85% of your offseason gains by lifting once or twice a week with reduced volume and stuff during the season. Maybe, i dont know. Their oncourt training must be very hard but they get to eat a lot of food and have access to recovery resources we can only dream of. Something is definitely amiss.

He starts off with 2 plates but he ends up using a stackload of them.. but i dont blame you for not getting far enough to see that .. it's super embarassing to think this is a professional athlete "training" ..

Sold! What size med ball shall i get? they come from 1kg up to 10kg. Shall i get like 5 or 7?

Also, interested in what acole was going to say about benching. for future knowledge when im healthy to bench again.