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yeah the elbow has to be straight by rule. but man they still manage to get into some weird positions. for example:

Yeah he's a very impressive athlete. I find it interesting how much of the shot performance correlates with lower body jumping power.  I know a guy that trains cricket bowlers in pretty much the same fashion with great success.

oh interesting, i'm actually curious to hear more about that. the motion for bowlers seems even more unnatural than for baseball pitchers, especially spin bowlers who sometimes contort their shoulders in super goofy-looking ways.

incidentally, the fastest bowler ever lives near me. i've met him, he's a hilarious character. lotta 'roids in his training history.

^^^ sage words.

- run 7.36 km in 36:26
felt glacial but actually pace was 4:56, so at least i was under 5:00. knees a little achey for the first km but i think that's just because it's morning. soleus a little tight at the end.

- stretch

much gold in there.

incidentally, i remember watching some of the videos of werner gunthor's training years ago. just went back and found them again. they're fun to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4e5cuyqjqw

agreed on all points.

legs still killing me last night, took it as a sign that i should rest. so i did. slept well, too: first time waking before alarm in a while. good.

Quote from: LBSS on February 18, 2018, 11:36:56 pm

not as sore as i expected, mainly tib anteriors and peroneals. doing some foot-ankle-lower leg specific work would probably not hurt my running. more pirouettes, maybe some SL calf raises, some heel walking, and more mobility. shoulder feels good, which is (1) a surprise and (2) awesome.

also, my pulling last night was fucking awesome. helped that there was a light cross breeze but i coffin-cornered a couple of floaters and put everything high and more or less where i wanted. it's not like i was holding back too much for the shoulder's sake after i got warmed up. good sign. otherwise skills are rusty -- and as FP will tell you i was never a great player to begin with -- but my baseline is still much higher than anyone else who plays here. i love frisbee.

how would i tell anyone that lol, we havent ever played together. good to hear about the pulls, as the designated team puller i get streaks of 3-6 excellent ones followed by some bad ones. i pull exclusively IO tho which is known to less consistent

eh, i figure i can get a pretty good sense of how good someone is after drilling and throwing around with them for a while, which we have done. there are exceptions, of course -- i used to play rec with a longtime truck stop veteran who had competent but not spectacular throws and didn't look very fast, but was an animal as a d-line cutter and possession handler. never made mistakes, mental game was exceptional. but most of the time elite players are either notably fast and bouncy and/or have notably superior throws even warming up. there's a smoothness, consistency, whatever.

same with any sport. i once watched david nalbandian warm up from about 12 feet away and it was like, oh yeah he's doing a different thing than i'm doing when i hit a tennis ball around. the gap between me and an elite ultimate player is much narrower than the gap between me and david nalbandian, but it's still there and i feel like it was obvious when we threw around especially given how rusty i was. maybe i'm wrong.

anyway my point is i'm a decent but sub-elite ultimate player.

also my lower legs still hurt like the dickens today. DOMS blows.

ETA: yeah i was pulling flat, from the downwind side of the field. for whatever reason i was just nailing it. on reflection i think it might have helped that i was packing my shoulder more than usual and the compact motion gave me more control without sacrificing power. for years i modeled my pulling motion on will neff, who was the greatest puller i've ever seen -- once watched him get a callahan on a pull that he threw. but he's a tall, lanky, loose dude, and his shoulder came all the way out and around on the backswing. that might be what got me into trouble last august.

she should start a journal on here, i'm tryna see how much work that is. what's her training schedule look like?

not as sore as i expected, mainly tib anteriors and peroneals. doing some foot-ankle-lower leg specific work would probably not hurt my running. more pirouettes, maybe some SL calf raises, some heel walking, and more mobility. shoulder feels good, which is (1) a surprise and (2) awesome.

also, my pulling last night was fucking awesome. helped that there was a light cross breeze but i coffin-cornered a couple of floaters and put everything high and more or less where i wanted. it's not like i was holding back too much for the shoulder's sake after i got warmed up. good sign. otherwise skills are rusty -- and as FP will tell you i was never a great player to begin with -- but my baseline is still much higher than anyone else who plays here. i love frisbee.