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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Random rant
« on: January 26, 2012, 05:25:41 pm »
Yeah the only thing I see as potentially detrimental is if you lack on court ball playing/jumping and therefore actually adapting to slow movements instead of explosive movements.

But I actually do 2 days per week of slow, strength training while in the others I do explosive half squats complexed with light jump squats so that should be good.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Random rant
« on: January 26, 2012, 05:04:43 pm »
You're weak. That's your problem

So you dove deep down into your pinnacle of knowledge to pull out this?

You're weak. That's your problem.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Hang Snatch Alternative
« on: January 26, 2012, 04:34:52 pm »
Exactly. I mean, if you front squat already, why would you back squat high bar? Why not do a hip dominated (yes, I know) back squat when you already do a quad dominated front squat?

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Random rant
« on: January 26, 2012, 04:31:46 pm »
Considering my squat PR today (140kgx5reps), I just came to some "thoughts" after working out so far:

1) At this point, for me at least, it appears I have reached a point where I'm being overwhelmed cardiovascularly at this weight. After my 140x5 I felt REALLY dizzy and felt like passing out... it appears that's pretty much my limit as far as conditioning is concerned when doing strength training. Why should you care about this? Because it could apply to you to. I don't hear anybody talk about conditioning and cardio "strength" for strength training so I thought I should fill that in.

2) I have came to the conclusion that high frequency squatting is the way to go. Even though you might get ballooned squat numbers, the effect that squatting heavy weights again and again has on developing your muscles is unmatched.

You might come in and say "yeah but that squat is not transferrable to athletic movements and is just an improvement of squat movement efficiency". And of course you'd be right. But the thing is - it actually indirectly helps athleticism. You will use higher poundages that will develop your muscles better (subjecting them to heavier poundages will develop both your muscles and your nervous system) and that will, in turn, help with the actual athletic movements.

Also - moving a heavy weight frequently is being underrated in the effect it has for your stabilizer development... since the bar isn't stable (because you won't have 100% perfect movement when squatting) and needs to be, well, stabilized. That creates a good CNS firing to stabilize it and by that I mean a "quick" CNS fire ability. This is so underrated in my opinion.

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140x5 :ibsquatting: :personal-record: (had a few reps in the tank as well, probably would've made 7)

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Hang Snatch Alternative
« on: January 26, 2012, 08:42:20 am »
Yeah we've had this conversation some time ago and it will keep on getting back and back into these boards because frankly, it's pretty interesting to discuss. But the bottom line is what vag said.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: January 26, 2012, 08:24:20 am »
I mean jumping 45 SVJ without Photoshop or pulling on the rim and letting go before taking the picture.

no way, is that what squatdr did? why hasn't anyone talked about that on this forum before? someone should do a detailed breakdown of why the photo is fake or something.

Nice sarcasm.^^^ :highfive:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: January 25, 2012, 06:56:30 pm »
I mean jumping 45 SVJ without Photoshop or pulling on the rim and letting go before taking the picture.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Hang Snatch Alternative
« on: January 25, 2012, 06:55:23 pm »
Yeah I agree. So wouldn't Kingfish be in a better position going with low bar squats?

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Hang Snatch Alternative
« on: January 25, 2012, 06:26:41 pm »
I sorta think there is no such thing as quad dominant people.... just people with weak hamstrings and glutes.  It seems a strange solution to switch to a movement where the quads can hardly be used to remedy weak hamstrings.   Why not just train the hamstrings in knee flexion and hip extension and get them doing the movement well?

I think you have a very solid argument here ^^^, especially if you couple this with tight hip flexors/dormant glutes.

And to answer your question - since I can't do high bar squats and do low bar squats and deadlifts instead, yeah, I'm missing SOME quad activity from my training. But like Lance said, "I'm sure moving the bar 1 inch lower on your back will completely deactivate your quads and they will get weak and small". The point is - the quads still get stimulation from the low bar squats. Especially as I'm a quad dominant guy by nature so... I kind of always call on my quads when doing stuff.

My problem is that I was never able, after years of training, to build my VMOs... and I want HUGE VMOs.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: January 25, 2012, 06:20:26 pm »
And I think you have a good plan and you're on a good road to be honest. Sure, I hate you not doing running jumps (and seeing how MAXIMALLY high you can get (since you're going to get a few additional inches off that added momentum/leg eccentric potentiation) but as far as your current goals are concerned, you might be able to pull a Squat DR picture soon without Photoshop.

If you know what I mean... :ninja: :wowthatwasnutswtf:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: January 25, 2012, 05:37:35 pm »
Will you continue to increase your squat (focus on this)? Where do you want to stop at relatively? Have you considered going into 200 lbs bodyweight territory to increase your squat towards ~3x?

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Hang Snatch Alternative
« on: January 25, 2012, 05:32:37 pm »
Yes but in order to extend the knee and straighten back your leg you're going to flex the quad to do it. That's the thing.

Your body, especially in untrained people, will tend to (over)use your quads in everything it does when it comes to leg training. At least in my own experience and what I have observed in people that I have trained. The beginners will always have a bad time calling on the glutes and will always exaggerately bend at the knees when doing squats/deadlifts etc. Sure, one thing is that they have too narrow of a stance initially which is causing this but that's not the issue here.

As an example, when I deadlifted the first time ever years ago, I couldn't even understand the concept of lowering the hips back and keeping the knees stationary (not letting them go forward/down). So when I was deadlifting I was "squatting" down with my knees going forward/down and hips pretty much not doing anything. It was EXTREMELY ugly to see... it was something like a bilateral peterson step-up/sissy squat as far as movement goes.

This same thing will cause knee injuries over time if not immediately and knee "overuse" injuries. Plus the knees going forward takes away tension off the hamstrings so you're missing out on the power of the hamstrings as assistance for the glutes in the extension/hyperextension of the hips. So it does a handful of bad things for you (this quad dominance).

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Hang Snatch Alternative
« on: January 25, 2012, 05:07:26 pm »
Well yeah if you think about it you're going to have different squat styles individually, depending on structure, muscle strength (which generates the body's preference to use more or less different muscles etc) and other factors, but a high bar squat will have more potential to determine a more quad-oriented squat than a low bar squat GENERALLY (regardless of structure).

So obviously you can force a more hip oriented jump squat with a high bar position placement but you're going to have to compensate with your back angle etc so it's going to mess things up a bit.

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Hang Snatch Alternative
« on: January 25, 2012, 04:46:39 pm »
Well quad dominance is how much load an exercise TENDS to make your body use as far as the quads are concerned.

I do not understand this sentence. Can you explain this? I suppose quad dominance is not the same as potential knee flexion in an exercise?

Yeah, I think you can say that. At least in my version of the definition. So for me personally, that's pretty much the same - the potential of knee flexion and quad loading of a given exercise. Of course it's more a matter of that knee flexion/quad loading actually occuring than the potential of that since that's what we really care about.

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