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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: June 28, 2011, 03:36:51 pm »Have you ever tried RL plants so far?
ya i suck at them
Have you found out why? I mean, what do you do wrong vs LR?
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Have you found out why? I mean, what do you do wrong vs LR?
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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: new PR!
« on: June 28, 2011, 02:48:30 pm »He has insane genetics plus a diet consisting of mostly raw meat from different species of high grade cattle. couple that with his elite tendon attachments, and you have a bosshog.
You forget his unusual cannibalistic tendencies...
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Barbells And Steroids: Equally Unfair
« on: June 28, 2011, 02:44:19 pm »
If you are debating whether or not steroids should be legalized, then you have some ground to stand on there, if you are comparing taking steroids to training with weights, its a silly comparison. You cant compare sticking a needle in your ass to spending years and years busting your ass under a barbell.
I'm more scared of a needle and injection than of a barbell.
Training with barbells is not illegal or against any rules, its an even playing field, but one that takes actual BALLS to do.
Why?
The main reason taking steroids is an advantage in the first place is because not everyone is willing to break the rules and cheat, so the ones that do actually have an advantage.
You need BALLS to break the rules.
The people who get affected by steroids in sports are the ATHLETES, that want to stay clean, but have to compete against cheaters who have a clear advantage in their training. If they are made legal then you have a level playing field, but many athletes dont want to literally be forced into taking drugs to play their sport and compete in their event, which is what that would entail. Its easy to look from the outside in like many do and say there is no problem with drugs, but when its your job to compete, and YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES, and you get beat by someone who IS BREAKING THE RULES, then its a different story.
Then do a drug-free athletic world and a drug-pro athletic world. I'd love to see a steroid-filled sprinter that runs 9.30. Even in the drug-free world, it's just a matter of not getting caught. There probably are compounds that just don't show up in the analysis. If you have the money, you have them and you're a gold medalist.
I dont agree with many of the drug policies regarding recreational drugs and the what Gary said about alcohol is very true, but two wrongs dont make a right. I dont like steroids in sports, it causes things like threads on starting strength about "why usa weightlifters arent strong", when some athletes have to stay cleaner than others, and the ones using get to come out looking like they are "better".
It's going to happen nonetheless ^^^
Bottom line is rules are rules, and if youre playing a sport that has rules, you should have enough dignity to stay within those boundaries or do something else. Most the people talking about steroids arent even anywhere close to a point that they couldnt make tons more progress if they knew how to train right or trained hard enough anyway.
Maybe I don't want to train and put my back, knees, bones, heck, even life to a risk under a heavy barbell. How about then? Or it's just about balls?
EDIT: I have a feeling Lance will take this message personally like he usually does when someone is contradicting his opinion, but...
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Barbells And Steroids: Equally Unfair
« on: June 28, 2011, 02:30:58 pm »Ok, fair enough but then everyone else would be taking them too and you would be in the same position as you are now relative to everyone in your sport. You would have no option but to resort back to the dreaded barbell to find that extra edge. Say your ultimate goal is a 45" vertical knowing that the human limit is about 50", would you still have the same goal if people started jumping 60". Probably not, you'd say shit if they can jump 60" I know I can hit 50". Its our nature to never be satisfied, so as long as the competitive environment is equal for everyone, what's the difference? If steroids were legal and everyone took them, I'd definitely do the same but what difference would it really make. The people that were better than me before would still be better so nothing at all has changed.
What I really love and care about is the pain and suffering from working as hard as my body and mind can endure (while being smart about it of course). For some reason that suffering just gives me life and excites me more than anything. Then my satisfaction comes when I realize I'm stronger, faster, and more athletic from my training. Even if I take steroids and my performance jumps to another level, I'm still going to train to get the same feeling and to try to get even better. In essence, nothing would change. I really believe in the cliche, "its the journey that matters not the destination".
Yeah I completely agree with this ^^^
But it shouldn't be "wrong" or "imorral" if people would take roids. They should be legalized.
The only thing about roids that is wrong is if an athlete signs that he doesn't take any and competes in a roid-free environment while taking them.
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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: new PR!
« on: June 28, 2011, 12:53:44 pm »wait your 5'3 and hit head on 10 ft RIM
He's just began training, you don't need to mock him...
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Barbells And Steroids: Equally Unfair
« on: June 28, 2011, 12:44:28 pm »
Well you just demonstrated why we all, as athletes or aspiring athletes, should be allowed to take them. We could focus more on the sport itself and get better at it and not waste time doing stupid repetitions with a barbell. That should be limited to people in that sport - powerlifting, Olympic lifting and so on.
The barbell should be the actual display of sport prowess (with the aid of roids) and not the means to get to that display.
Simply because it's much more inefficient.
If we want to be so "moral" (although I have no idea how that word applies here) we should throw our computers out the window since they are efficient and start working with stone and wood. Do all mathematical calculations on paper. Forget robots, do all work manually. Don't grow food by any means, walk around the planet in search of the proper foods etc etc etc. Endless examples.
It's just a matter of efficiency. Steroids are superior to pretty much anything => the logical way is to use them.
The barbell should be the actual display of sport prowess (with the aid of roids) and not the means to get to that display.
Simply because it's much more inefficient.
If we want to be so "moral" (although I have no idea how that word applies here) we should throw our computers out the window since they are efficient and start working with stone and wood. Do all mathematical calculations on paper. Forget robots, do all work manually. Don't grow food by any means, walk around the planet in search of the proper foods etc etc etc. Endless examples.
It's just a matter of efficiency. Steroids are superior to pretty much anything => the logical way is to use them.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Barbells And Steroids: Equally Unfair
« on: June 28, 2011, 12:11:33 pm »Gary, I'm not going to say that your argument is wrong, but I think the premises for your argument is wrong. I don't feel its justifiable to compare lifting weights to attain unnatural strength to taking steroids to attain the same end. Athletes have to dedicate much of their time and focus to weightlifting to get that strength whereas with steroids they simply inject and play their sport and see their performance improve. I just don't see how its fair to make that argument on this premise. You can't substitute weightlifting with taking steroids just because the strength achieved is unnatural in both cases. It just doesn't make sense.
With that said, I'm not saying that your conclusion is wrong at all. To some degree I do think that the policy is unfair and the result of mass hysteria. But I just don't agree with the argument you're using to get there.
You basically said nothing.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Barbells And Steroids: Equally Unfair
« on: June 28, 2011, 11:06:40 am »
If you were standing next to me, I swear I would kiss you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Just because random person A and random person B came in to say "roids are illegal, I worked my butt out to be the best bodybuilder/athlete/powerlifter etc etc etc with barbells, that's the alpha way" and shit like this doesn't make that person GOD that decides what rules there should be applied to YOU. He's just a man like you are, shitting through the same shit hole (thought that would get a better picture of how similar we are).
So why not use roids vs other methods of increasing strength/lowering bodyfat? I see not reason why except health related which, done correctly, shouldn't be that bad. And like you said, same pretty much applies to barbell squats and any other high tension thing done on your body.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Just because random person A and random person B came in to say "roids are illegal, I worked my butt out to be the best bodybuilder/athlete/powerlifter etc etc etc with barbells, that's the alpha way" and shit like this doesn't make that person GOD that decides what rules there should be applied to YOU. He's just a man like you are, shitting through the same shit hole (thought that would get a better picture of how similar we are).
So why not use roids vs other methods of increasing strength/lowering bodyfat? I see not reason why except health related which, done correctly, shouldn't be that bad. And like you said, same pretty much applies to barbell squats and any other high tension thing done on your body.
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Program Review / Re: "Flight Right" by Brandon Todd
« on: June 28, 2011, 09:33:52 am »
Um... isn't that a tiny binny winny too much volume?
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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Core Power - Barbell rollout progression.
« on: June 28, 2011, 09:30:46 am »
You can also do standing ab wheel rollouts on an inclined surface if you can find any. That will be easier. And once you get good at them it will be easier to do them on a normal surface.
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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Core Power - Barbell rollout progression.
« on: June 28, 2011, 09:11:31 am »
Is a barbell rollout harder than an ab wheel rollout? I only tried the ab wheel rollout.
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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Core Power - Barbell rollout progression.
« on: June 28, 2011, 06:50:39 am »
Can you do hanging straight leg raises without your back supported? Or does your butt go back when you do them?
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: June 28, 2011, 05:58:05 am »
Have you ever tried RL plants so far?
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Lance's method every day
« on: June 28, 2011, 05:55:09 am »
Well it is, but there's no upperbody work. Remember, volume is going to be extremely low with the squats and deadlifts, just two sets stopping way before failure.
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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: One-leg jumpers need to get to this level sooner or later
« on: June 28, 2011, 05:51:24 am »
Well yeah that shifts things a bit more towards the muscle side of jumping and away from the tendon side of jumping BUT STILL - to be able to stabilize, jump, land, stabilize, jump etc is amazing.