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I don't get one thing: what is this thread really about? I mean, the half squat is a SPP strength exercise in athletics (track&field and other sports). It also can be used as GPP for people that get enough glute and general muscle stimulation with the half squat and that don't perform full squats well due to structural factors/flexibility factors/injuries/don't care about the full squat.

If the half squat does it's thing as a strength increase exercise then what's the beef?

Also, as a SPP exercise, it trains the reversal strength in the same exact point where a guy would want to reverse the eccentric into concentric. That will never happen with full squats. It's such an important factor in doing half squats instead of full squats.

Now you could come in and say "yeah but you could do full squats + depth jumps and get the best of both worlds."

Well yeah, you can, if you ignore the shocks in the joints that the depth jumps would generate. Those over time will take their toll. With half squats you can overload that eccentric, coupling and concentric phases without having to get these shocks.

So I think you don't have to be a genius to understand this and you don't need any more than these few phrases^^^ here to sum it up. There's no need for such a big discussion.

My knees are really going forward on my two leg bounds... probably the arm swing isn't timed perfectly either, so that increases my amortization phase time.

But I really agree with what you're saying.

In the sprint, I naturally feel that I should straighten up immediately... so I only stay down because I voluntarily want to stay there. Otherwise I'd be tall after my first step.

What I don't understand is what you're saying about the pelvis... I'm not aware of what is wrong with my one leg bounds. Not letting the pelvis move = ? You mean, I should focus more on using a straight leg instead of letting the hips lower and load? That would mean high hips and that would be really weird, for the people I've seen they almost all load the leg and release that energy with quite a bit of bend in that leg.

I wonder what's Kelly's point of view on the matter. After all, he's the one who kind of trains people for increasing the SVJ, since that will mean also an increase in the RVJ. For him personally, I think he went from ~20 inches to 35+ just by pretty much increasing his strength.

As for me, I think, just as for everybody else, the SVJ increases as the squat increases. Probably just as simple as that. But I'm a better SVJ jumper than the regular Joe, it kind of comes naturally to me.

You and the smallest black guy have some very thin shins.

Two legs bounds from today:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_XWtVd8Qdo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_XWtVd8Qdo</a>

Sometimes I land deep (as in a full squat) and that seriously hurts my knees... I feel like the whole tension is being taken by the articulations (knee ligaments etc) instead of being amortizated by the quads. Should the glutes/other muscles get involved in the amortization of these bounds off two feet? Because I don't think so, pretty much the quads (that as you can see, don't do a particularly great job of amortizating).

This was by far my best set (the only one I filmed by the way) - so you can imagine how the others sucked hard.

Hah, nice thread, I keep on reading.

Nah, LeBron just isn't a creative dunker (see Cannon Brown in the dunk contest). So it works only if you like power dunks/very high dunks (I like them by the way).

Nah that's probably close level to the rim... so ~40.