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I don't think there is a model. The only model I can see is that the closer you are to an elite value the harder it will be to improve (just like in anything else in life).

So if you have a 20 inch SVJ it would be easier than if you'd have a 35 inch SVJ. BUT - again - there are so many factors that govern this... if the athlete has sports experience, if the athlete lifted before, his structure, his CNS, his sleep, his nutrition, his endocrine system and so on and so forth.

Therefore I think it's stupid to launch numbers around. I can't understand why one would be limited in his training until he gets to a really good squat number to begin with. And even then he might get a higher VJ by reducing bodyfat or improving his explosiveness or even traditional "plyo" power (even though we talk about SVJ here).

In the end you're going only to be limited by your structure and some CNS characteristics in your SVJ, if you take care of all the other factors. The problem is - very few people do all this.

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Quote from: Raptor on June 11, 2011, 11:50:39 am

If that were true I'd have a 2x squat since 3 years ago. If it was as simple as putting a bar on your back and doing your workout and your squat will increase liniarly.

Well man, what can I say? I guess you are right then, I have been wrong all the time and you will never have a 2x bw squat ever, regardless of what you do.

Duh, finally. Thank you.

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Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+.

Let me ask you people this:

What does "started out" mean? It's not a  definable thing. What does starting out mean? That when I was 1 year old I could jump 32? That when I started to grow I could jump 32? That when I got past teenage I was jumping 32? That I can jump 32 without doing any training whatsoever? What about playing sports? Doesn't that affect my SVJ? What if I squat for bodybuilding purposes for 5 years already? What if I don't squat at all? What if I'm a powerlifter or Olympic lifter that doesn't train for a SVJ?

And so on and so forth. What does "started out" mean? This is stupid beyond anything I can think of.

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Clean to bodyweight pr at 1.46x, Need to get my squat up though as it is only around 315lb right now.

How explosive can you be with that clean and squat?

I don't get one thing: what is this thread really about? I mean, the half squat is a SPP strength exercise in athletics (track&field and other sports). It also can be used as GPP for people that get enough glute and general muscle stimulation with the half squat and that don't perform full squats well due to structural factors/flexibility factors/injuries/don't care about the full squat.

If the half squat does it's thing as a strength increase exercise then what's the beef?

Also, as a SPP exercise, it trains the reversal strength in the same exact point where a guy would want to reverse the eccentric into concentric. That will never happen with full squats. It's such an important factor in doing half squats instead of full squats.

Now you could come in and say "yeah but you could do full squats + depth jumps and get the best of both worlds."

Well yeah, you can, if you ignore the shocks in the joints that the depth jumps would generate. Those over time will take their toll. With half squats you can overload that eccentric, coupling and concentric phases without having to get these shocks.

So I think you don't have to be a genius to understand this and you don't need any more than these few phrases^^^ here to sum it up. There's no need for such a big discussion.

My knees are really going forward on my two leg bounds... probably the arm swing isn't timed perfectly either, so that increases my amortization phase time.

But I really agree with what you're saying.

In the sprint, I naturally feel that I should straighten up immediately... so I only stay down because I voluntarily want to stay there. Otherwise I'd be tall after my first step.

What I don't understand is what you're saying about the pelvis... I'm not aware of what is wrong with my one leg bounds. Not letting the pelvis move = ? You mean, I should focus more on using a straight leg instead of letting the hips lower and load? That would mean high hips and that would be really weird, for the people I've seen they almost all load the leg and release that energy with quite a bit of bend in that leg.