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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: January 06, 2014, 07:45:02 am »
neglected to log this on saturday 1/4:

WEIGHT: 176.5
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: none
MENTAL STATE: meh

- warm up

- bunch of SVJ

- paused squat 255 x 3,3

- circuit x 3
-- DB RDL 70s x 10
-- inverted row x 12
-- DB OHP 40s x 10,8(+35 x 3)

- some other shit that i forget.

- stretch

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: January 03, 2014, 04:25:34 pm »
also meant to mention that last night i got a couple of rim touches of SL, including half a knuckle over off my left foot. this is also extremely encouraging because i was tired at that point and was not putting forth 100% effort on any jumps.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 03, 2014, 10:11:32 am »
Quote from: ian459 on January 03, 2014, 09:04:33 am
Quote from: T0ddday on January 02, 2014, 08:40:15 pm


***One last point about specialization.   You should not underestimate the unfortunate lack of carry over that happens when you become a specialist.   You have put a lot of work into your squat...  If you take someone who hardly squats and he has similar bw to squat ratios... He will almost always be faster/stronger/etc.    Getting good at something unfortunately means it starts to provide less aid in similar movements.  You are now a specialized squatter and jumper.   So your 34 inch jump (or whatever your PR is) will translate to a lot less when you have to jump at an odd angle, weird plant , in traffic, or simply without the mental queuing that you have learned to do before you jump in practice... Your old 25 inch jump translated a lot better because you hadn't yet reached a level of specialization...   The guy who had trained his vertical from 15 to 25 inches probably saw your 25 inch jump and wondered why he couldn't use his 25 inch jump to rise up on his shot, block shots, etc.   It's an unfortunate thing that happens when we get really good at something..... but hey it's because you have finally gotten some athleticism !

What does this mean? The more you train your vertical in a certain way, the less it translates in other types of vertical jumps?

kind of. the more you groove a certain pattern for any skill, the farther the gap between your proficiency using that pattern and using any other pattern. t0ddday talked about watching jesse williams, who is a world-champion high jumper, jump around on a basketball court. off two legs or off a normal run up of any kind he could dunk weakly at best. but if he takes his normal high jump approach and then does a rim jump he can pretty much hit his head on the rim. that pattern is just sooooo much more efficient for him than anything else.

it's not that getting better at something one way translates less to other ways, it just means the gap grows. another example: imagine you're a chef and you get really good at chopping vegetables with your right hand. you can do that emeril shit where he's just going nuts and looks like a machine. but your left hand is only as good at chopping as it ever was, or maybe it's a little bit better but it hasn't kept pace with your right. similar idea here.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: January 02, 2014, 10:55:21 pm »
can't say i can attribute any change in workouts to creatine. i don't preload, i take it after i've worked out. it might be helping, certainly, but i'm just not sure. my jumping stamina has seemed better but that could just as easily be conditioning.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Measurements
« on: January 02, 2014, 10:52:35 pm »
Quote from: LBSS on July 13, 2010, 11:07:47 pm
Measurements taken after eating a lot of food.

Wrist: 7 (difference from ideal measurements below in parentheses)
Chest: 42 (-3.5)
Forearm: 12 (-1.2)
Biceps: 13.75 (-2.35)
Waist: 30.5 (-0.7)
Thigh: 23 (-1.1)
Hips: 38 (-0.7)
Calf: 15 (-0.5)
Neck: 15 (-1.8 )

So I need a bit bigger everything, particularly chest, forearm, neck and biceps. In order to look like a Greek statue, that is.

Foot length: 10.75
Foot width: 4.25
Index toe length: 2.75

UPDATE

According to this calculator: [broken link, can't find the calculator anymore], I have a maximum lifting potential of:
bench 343
oly squat (high bar ATG) 472
power squat 515
DL 550

bumping for funsies and in case anyone else wants to give this a shot. the link to the "ideal greek measurements" page is here: http://www.fitness.com/tools/greek_proportions/. my updated measurements are below, with difference from "ideal" for my wrist measurement in parentheses.

Wrist: 7
Chest: 43 (-2.5)
Forearm: 12.5 (-0.7)
Biceps: 14 (-2.1)
Waist: 31.5 (+0.8 )
Thigh: 24.5 (+0.4)
Hips: 38.5 (-0.2)
Calf: 15.75 (+0.25)
Neck: 15.5 (-1.3)

still with the skinny biceps, chest and neck, but numbers up across the board since 2010. waist a bit over (there's those five holiday pounds, lol) and thigh and hips a bit over.

for consistency, if anyone wants to do the same:
-bicep flexed with arm bent, forearm flexed with wrist slightly bent
-chest relaxed standing straight, nipple height; waist and neck also relaxed standing straight
-thigh standing with weight on that leg but not actively flexing, same for hips
-calf seated with leg bent but not actively flexing


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: January 02, 2014, 10:20:11 pm »
WEIGHT: 178   :o
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: none
MENTAL STATE: pretty good

- warm up

- 2-on-2 half court x 15-20 mins
we won. i had a couple nice layups off cuts to the hoop and a couple of brutal jump shots. also i was playing D on a 6'5 guy. that shit is hard.

- DLRVJ x a bunch
was tired from the 2-on-2 because i'm out of shape, but still managed to dunk the miniball once and have a bunch of near misses. some easy 33+ toward the end. encouraging.

- assisted natural GHR x 8,8,8

- circuit x 4
-- cable hip thrust 130 x 10
-- pull down 90 x 10
-- dip x 10
minimal rest between exercises, ~60s between sets

- circuit x 2
-- DB shrug 65s x 10
-- DB curl 25s x 10,8
-- rear delt flyes 12.5s x 10

- decline sit up 35 x 8+2 (last 2 reps concentric with bar in front of neck)

- stretch

man i've gained 5 pounds in the past month. well, probably the past week and a half, what with vacation and all the ad lib eating. never used to happen to me, that i know of. it all goes to the low back. will cut down on sweets and booze for the next week and see where i'm at. part of it could be water retention from creatine, come to think of it.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: January 02, 2014, 04:16:36 pm »
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jan/02/mayweather-pacquiao-fight-2014-september

would break my PPV cherry for this fight.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 02, 2014, 01:40:24 pm »
we have a thread about greek statue proportions somewhere. you should shoot for those.  :P

EDIT: http://www.adarq.org/strength-power-reactivity-speed-discussion/measurements/

EDIT 2: this makes me want to do a BB block. :-X at the very least i'm gonna remeasure today. my waist and thighs are definitely bigger now than they were in my post there.

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: January 02, 2014, 12:14:33 pm »
ladies and gentlemen, former fourth overall pick cody zeller! http://deadspin.com/cody-zeller-made-the-poor-decision-to-attempt-dunking-1492957932

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 02, 2014, 11:09:32 am »
also, you have a 14" neck at 6'3, 215? holy shit!  :-X  i'm pushing a 15.5 at 4" shorter and 40 lbs less than you.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 02, 2014, 11:09:09 am »
SQUATS ARE GPP. stop thinking about squats as a specific exercise for jump training.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: January 02, 2014, 09:53:01 am »
oh man i love kayaking. envious.  8)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Scrawny to Brawny Journal
« on: January 02, 2014, 09:51:19 am »
welcome back! sorry that you had such a rough go of it this fall. but just think, at least you didn't end up in the emergency room with penis trauma. http://deadspin.com/what-horrible-things-did-we-do-to-our-penises-last-year-1487404095

what's your weight/fats at right now, roughly speaking?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: December 31, 2013, 06:16:55 pm »
thanks vag!

here's a vid of what i spent all yesterday afternoon doing with my dad (in yellow) and our neighbor (controlling the splitter). this is a smaller log, some of them were ~40kg.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEhfyZhJdRY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEhfyZhJdRY</a>

today:

WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: right bicep, left hand
ACHES/INJURIES: head
MENTAL STATE: meh, headache

- warm up

- RVJ out to two-step x a couple
shite, bagged it. head hurt.

- circuit of DB swings and upper pushing and pulling x four rounds

- stretch

felt like crap today, headache is still there although not as bad as earlier. so i dialed it back and just got the juices flowing a bit.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 31, 2013, 01:22:52 pm »
Quote from: T0ddday on December 31, 2013, 05:07:28 am
Fair enough... although I maintain that a stopwatch and a friend to time how long he takes to cover three court or free throw line to free throw lines will prove just as reliable a test of basketball fitness.  An even less horrible test....  Three line-to-line sprints.  Rest 30 seconds.  Repeat.  Rest 30 seconds, repeat.  Add up the 3 times and make that a measure of fitness.  It's not complicated and doesn't use beeps but it's a better measure of fitness by a long shot.

hm that would be better. but then he can't benchmark himself against steve nash.  :D

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