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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 30, 2013, 11:14:52 pm »
all extremely valid points, but entropy is looking for a standardized test of his "fitness." this is a guy who likes charts. obviously, the only real test of fitness is playing the sport. no one disputes this. but as you said yourself, whether accidentally or not the beep test correlates with specific fitness pretty well. i'd also point out that the beep test involves a lot of accelerations and decelerations, even if submax, which is fatiguing in a different way than straight-line running and closer to what you actually do during a game*. it's not something he should use to train but if he wants a measuring stick outside of playing the game, he could do worse.

*not the same! at all! i know!

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oh man, a whole month. sounds nice. enjoy, don't get too fat off all those suds!  :D

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yeah acole, i think you're right. it's similar to adarq's own journey to dunk: sick of other sports, just doing it for its own sake from a baseline that's way short. my peak RVJ right now is probably 36". i need at least 37 or 37.5 to dunk off a lob.

forgot that i'd promised my dad that i'd help him split up the hickory tree that our neighbors had cut down because it was getting old and if it'd fallen on their house would have caused six-figure damage. instead of gym today i moved, split, and threw into a pile something like 1000kg of wood. so fun.

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spent a couple minutes earlier looking for my beep test score when i took it a few years ago at my old gym. couldn't find it, but did read through a few pages of my journal from 2010. i have progressed a lot since then, when i was coming off an ankle injury and hadn't even really trained in the gym before. i've been at this goal for more than three years now and while i'm finally getting close, i feel like if i'd had more time at my old gym before it closed, i'd have hit the mark months ago. or maybe not, my approaches feel qualitatively different now than they did last november-december when i was setting my previous PRs. but any way you slice it, i've spent a lot of time spinning my wheels or going off on tangents.

as a refresher for those who have been around, and as new reading for those who have not, but mostly for myself, here are some thoughts on the close of my third full year of training to dunk:

i had the sense after i graduated from college that i'd never really put my all into anything. in fencing i was held back by not being able to afford higher-level training and my inability to get to the salle at will because i couldn't drive yet. qualified for junior olympics anyway but i could have been better. in ultimate (and other sports) i was okay but kind of a wuss, i've been injured so much in my life, since i was a little kid, that i always kind of held back and failed to play or practice with the kind of abandon that would make me a legitimately good player.

and all that's kind of secondary to the feeling i had coming out of college that i'd pretty much coasted in life up to that point. i'm white, a dude, upper middle class (not rich by US standards but very rich compared to the rest of the world), good-looking, straight, reasonably intelligent and curious and personable, i handle stressful situations like deadlines very well. life is easy for me, people very much like me found themselves in control in europe hundreds of years ago and have set up european societies to favor ourselves over many centuries. so graduating from college didn't really feel like an achievement, it felt inevitable, just something that i did because good god why wouldn't i? i got honors in college but didn't feel like i'd worked for them. i rarely (not never, but rarely) put myself out there, risked failure by working as hard as i could on something. if i could get A- or B+ results without trying, why go balls out? this is a bullshit mentality, it comes from a place of insecurity and fear: if i dig deep and put everything into something and fail to ace it, then i'm really not good enough. if i don't try that hard and get merely average or above average results, well then i could always tell myself, "i could do better if i wanted to." bullshit. my gf recently studied extremely hard for weeks for a test that mattered a lot to her, and she didn't do as well as she needed to to get the grade she deserved for the course overall. partly she got fucked over by whoever wrote the test, but bottom line is she didn't reach the mark she wanted to reach. but she was brave in her studying, she put herself in a position where her ego could really suffer if she didn't do as well as she wanted.

that's where wanting to dunk comes from. for all my gifts, i am not a "natural athlete." my body looks athletic and i'm coordinated but i'm in the fat part of the bell curve in most measures of "athleticism." i'm not terribly slow but i'm not fast, i'm sort of quick but not gonna juke anyone out of their shoes, and when i first started trying to jump higher nearly four years ago, i could just barely touch the rim off a run up. people generally laugh when i tell them that i want to dunk: what, this sub-6' white guy? lololololol. for all my throat clearing with entropy and others about what "athleticism" really means, dunking seemed to me a pretty neat and wonderful expression of power, grace, and speed. so i decided to go for it. and even though i'm not there yet, even though i've only gained 6" in that time on my best days, even though i spent the first 9-10 months of this year running in place like a moron and progressing on nothing, it feels good to be on this pursuit, trying hard to reach a difficult goal, however silly or pointless. 

so let me sum up by saying, here's to me finally dunking in 2014, or 2015, or however long it takes. and here's to the rest of you in all your goals, as long as you're picking goals that are worth reaching and putting your ego on the line to reach them.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 30, 2013, 11:06:34 am »
Also, and this is the most important thing I need to focus on -- get my fitness and conditioning up. That's the most athletic thing I can do for my game. I play good defense, or good offense, but i can't do both for more than a minute or two. Let me get my squat goals out of the way and i'll be a full time aerobic guy.

well, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. but doing some tempo sprinting and basketball-specific conditioning (defensive slides, dribbling up and down the court with layups at each end, etc., i'm sure there are millions of drills) would do you wonders.

i was kind of kidding about the beep test but not really: i think it's as good a measure of sport fitness as anything other than game performance.

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: December 30, 2013, 10:16:18 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Aft1nSy-o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Aft1nSy-o</a>

epic bench reaction

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: December 30, 2013, 09:54:02 am »
when was the last day in a row you *didn't* squat 400+?

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WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: none
MENTAL STATE: good

- warm up

- some SLRVJ and DLRVJ out to four-step, incl. a few dodgeball dunks

- paused squat 245 x 3,3
very explosive, bar popping way off shoulders at the top

- pull up/dip ladder x 1,2,3,4,5

- some pull aparts and shrugs

- stretch

wanted to keep things relatively light given that this is the first workout in almost a week and i want to work out again tomorrow. will go harder then. stretching felt gooood.

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what are you doing in belgium? i just learned that that country, which is the size of my home state, which is to say the 43rd-largest state in the US, has nearly 400 breweries.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 24, 2013, 12:46:52 pm »
god damn it, everyone starts out unskilled.



also are you fucking kidding about steve nash and kevin love being unathletic? steve nash had one of the highest beep test scores ever recorded and is a lock for the hall of fame. kevin love is an all-star. they are elite athletes by definition.

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dunked size three soccer ball with authority.  :wowthatwasnutswtf: :derp:

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WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: none
MENTAL STATE: very good

- warm up

- jumps x a bunch, out to four-step
huge milestone, about three strong dunks with size 3 soccer ball. the ball i'd been using is really deflated but this one isn't, much harder to cheat to get the ball down hard.

- squat 315 x 2,2; 190 x 20
fun.

- superset x 4,5,6,5,4
-- assisted natural GHR
-- pull up
-- DB OHP x 50s (45s on last set)

- decline sit up 30 x 10

- stretch

 :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: December 23, 2013, 10:30:59 am »
weird, why do you think the shoulder work hurts so much? i wouldn't think it's directly fatiguing to the back and other than stabilizing the bar your shoulders and chest aren't directly involved in the squat.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 23, 2013, 09:08:45 am »
fwiw, the SL-DL gap for me used to be like yours, 10" or something. then i started doing lots of layups a few times a week as a warm up. submax jumps but not low-effort. the gap is more like 5-6" now, and my DL jump has gone up in the past two months. food for thought.

practice matters, as we all know.

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