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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kingfush: SVJ 2-hand dunks 2.0
« on: April 20, 2016, 05:59:49 pm »
Quote from: T0ddday on April 20, 2016, 05:26:09 pm
Here's a question for Dreyth.  I don't know your numbers exactly so excuse me if I underestimate but let's assume your 200lb and squat 400.  Would you trade 50lbs for 100lbs.  So you now weigh 250 and squat 500...   I'm gonna bet you won't.  That's probably the  best answer to your question...

I don't want to weigh 250.

If you give me the choice between 200/400 and 175/350, I'm picking the former. Will either one make me jump higher? Not sure. That's what me and raptor are talking about. Not sure what you're so confused about to be honest; me and raptor seem to understand each other just fine

Quote from: T0ddday on April 20, 2016, 05:26:09 pm
Well are you holding vertical jump equal then?  If so the answer is the same.

No, we are testing for vertical jump. What we're wondering is the following: if my relative strength is 100% equal on all lifts at a bodyweight of 150 and 200, at which weight would I jump higher? But more importantly, WHY?

Raptor brought up some great points about that. We didn't exactly control for everything since we both agreed that calf strength won't increase as fast as squat strength, meaning calf relative strength will probably be stronger at 150bw verses 200 bw.

But it's still something to think about because we probably will be at a crossroads at some point in our training where we wonder: should I drop 10lbs even if my relative strength will stay the same? Will it lead to a higher vertical? If it doesn't then i wouldn't do it. Kingfish may be coming close to that crossroad sooner or later. Perhaps after a certain point, he physically can't get stronger without adding mass, but the amount of mass needed to add for a given increase in squat will be equal to the ratio of his squat:bw already.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: April 20, 2016, 05:53:03 pm »
Week 108
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Wednesday - 04/12/16

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I plan to read two chapters since I'm not lifting today. Completed turning a couple of brain dumps into flash cards on my phone. I plan to take the exam on May 7th. Should be done with readings in a week, then I have a week of re-reading notes, studying what I know the least, watching vids on what I know the least, and memorizing the brain dumps.

edit: didn't finish the chapter but i will tomorrow morning

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kingfush: SVJ 2-hand dunks 2.0
« on: April 20, 2016, 04:10:09 pm »
Quote from: Raptor on April 20, 2016, 03:14:46 pm
And it's even trickier than that - we are looking at squatting here. But usually we increase our squat and bodyweight (say we keep the same ratio) but the calves don't get that much stronger. And then the calves, which don't grow as fast/strong, remain behind with the squat going up. That changes the mechanics/overloading of the jump, making the quads do the breaking more, which makes you more quad-bound, which makes you increase the knee bend more, deactivates the hamstrings more, the angles are different and on and on and on.

So it's more complicated than simple numbers here.

I was going to mention that. I think it's one of the main reasons a SLRVJ at 175lb bw and 2xbw squat is likely going to be higher than a SLRVJ at 200lb bw and 2xbw squat -- the SLRVJ is more dependent on calf strength than DLRVJ, especially since all the loading is done on one calf and not two. The calves do not necessarily increase in strength as fast as the rest of the musculature, and therefore will not be able to handle all the extra bodyweight.

Your comments on the connective tissues and all that are spot on as well. Same with the CNS. I'm not sure if the same would apply as much for a SVJ though, but definitely for RVJs.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kingfush: SVJ 2-hand dunks 2.0
« on: April 20, 2016, 02:30:16 pm »
Quote from: LBSS on April 20, 2016, 02:13:45 pm
Quote from: Dreyth on April 20, 2016, 01:58:12 pm
This discussion makes me wonder about a hypothetical scenario:

- Athlete weighs 200lbs, squats 2x bw
- Athlete cuts down weight
- Athlete weighs 175lbs, squats 2x bw still

How would his DLRVJ, SLRVJ, and SVJ been affected, assuming all other factors were held constant?

depends.

Yeah. But on what? And why?

i wish i knew some programming so i could make a simulation showing exactly how high someone would jump with factors like force output, ROFD, GCT, and bodyweight. that should tell me a lot. i wonder how they all come into play with each other. an automated force curve graph would be awesome too.

Those factors are inter-related so it confuses things. You see a lot of the highest jumpers have low GCT, so you might think "lower GCT = better." Well, not necessarily. For example... low GCT may be a byproduct of high ROFD. But what if we could keep the same force curve (and ROFD) but increase the GCT. that would mean a higher vertical since we are achieving higher peak velocities ala kingfish style! a ha!

But then there's the issue that a longer GCT (via deeper knee bend) could put someone in a less than advantageous position to jump higher because they can produce force faster by having the reversal come earlier (ala many jumpers not like kingfish). In that case, high ROFD is in a roundabout way a byproduct GCT!

edit: the above would be best for looking at the SVJ

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kingfush: SVJ 2-hand dunks 2.0
« on: April 20, 2016, 01:58:12 pm »
This discussion makes me wonder about a hypothetical scenario:

- Athlete weighs 200lbs, squats 2x bw
- Athlete cuts down weight
- Athlete weighs 175lbs, squats 2x bw still

How would his DLRVJ, SLRVJ, and SVJ been affected, assuming all other factors were held constant?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: April 19, 2016, 03:59:13 pm »
Week 108
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Tuesday - 04/19/16

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Will lift and update later. De-load today.

Edit: didn't lift. too lazy. it was a de-load anyway so not so bad. i regret it though. also feeling sick.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: April 19, 2016, 02:45:40 pm »
go for 48"

lifetime achievement right there

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: April 19, 2016, 12:00:30 am »
Week 107
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Sunday - 04/17/16

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^ Even if I don't read a new chapter, I still go over my quiz questions and chapter notes daily.


Week 108
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Monday - 04/19/16

-= Workout Log =-

ATG Squat
135 x 12
135 x 8                                  >>3min rest.
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 1
315 x 1
365 x 1
405 x 1
390 x 5 PR
335 x 10 PR

Bench Press
135 x 8                                 >> 2min rest.
195 x 3
225 x 1
250 x 5 PR
225 x 8 PR

Incline DB Bench
80's x 6 PR                        >> 2min rests.
80's x 4 PR
80's x 3 PR

Romanian Deadlift
135 x 5
225 x 5
315 x 1
365 x 5

Hack Squat Calf Raise
Some heavy weight to failure for 3 sets                 >> 45sec rests.

-= Study Log =-

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Finished Chapter 12 of 21

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Chapter 12 notes done (52 cards)

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Learned 119 of 283 cards


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Edit: my projected max is 455. At 200lbs morning weight even 450 puts me at 2.25x bw. I planned to hit that goal june 1st. Guess im there already. Planning to start cutting weight may 1st (5ish pounds) hopefully i keep all my strength too. Cant wait to fly. This summer will be the summer i hit 40" inshallah!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 18, 2016, 02:28:29 pm »
feet turn out? here's an incredible article on that subject, and its very easy to ingest past the first part:

https://b-reddy.org/2013/05/09/talking-about-hip-retroversion/

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: April 16, 2016, 02:59:08 pm »
Week 107
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Saturday - 04/16/16

-= Study Log =-

Mike Myers Network+ Exam Guide
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FlashCards Deluxe - Chapter Notes
Chapter 11 notes done (60 cards)

FlashCards Deluxe - Quiz Questions
Learned 119 of 283 cards

Damn it's getting tough trying to retain all this information. I'm going to have finals coming up too, and they will get in the way. Good thing theres a little bit of overlap!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: April 16, 2016, 09:17:04 am »
Week 107
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Friday - 04/15/16

-= Workout Log =-

Cable Rows
190 x 5
210 x 3
230 x 1
250 x 1
230 x 10
230 x 4

Lateral Raises
35's x 5                             >> 60sec rest.
40's x 3
45's x 1
50's x 1
45's x 14 PR
45's x 4
45's x 4

Pull ups
BW x 18              60sec rest.
BW x 4

Short ROM Dragon Flags
5                >> 60sec rests.
5
5

Incline Rear Delt W FLyes
35's x 5
40's x 12 PR
40's x 8 PR

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I think yesterday's workout took a lot out of me. I cut out some sets on today's workout. Not exactly a de-load but still. I felt like ending the workout early... but instead of doing that and missing exercises completely, I decide to just lower the number of sets and go through every exercise. I think that's important!

Studied some of the book but not much. What I never skimp out on, though, is reviewing quiz questions and notes.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: April 15, 2016, 11:44:36 am »
Will probably join a basketball league in a few weeks! Fuck yeah I'll finally start playing ball weekly. Going to be extremely fun and not only that, I'll get to see how high I can jump now that my strength ratio is the highest it's ever been! Oh and increased movement efficiency (of which I'm probably at my baseline/zero) will help too. Def hitting 40" this summer assuming no injuries.

Schedule will be:

Mon - lower body
Tue - upper body
Wed - bball
Thu - lower body
Fri - upper body
Sat - off
Sun - off

That means I play bball on wed and then squat/RDL on thu. That may be a problem, not sure yet. If anything i'll just swap my upper days with my lower days.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: April 15, 2016, 09:39:08 am »
Quote from: Raptor on April 15, 2016, 02:33:39 am
You should do them in the squat rack, you won't be hitting the safeties.

Oh I think youre right! I usually hit the safeties at other gyms but probably won't there.




I weigh 200lbs in the morning after poop n pee though. No longer 196ish. It's just glycogen storage though.
I think starting May I'll go on an official cut and keep a calorie log. Want to get down to under 195. Hopefully I can keep this strength.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: April 14, 2016, 04:32:42 pm »
Week 107
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Thursday - 04/14/16

-= Workout Log =-

ATG Squat
135 x 12
135 x 8                                  >> Was nervous/slight adrenaline for 435. Felt like I had 455 in me.
185 x 5                                  >> No hype up for it.
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 1
315 x 1
365 x 1
405 x 1
435 x 1 PR
385 x 5 PR

Bench Press
135 x 8
185 x 5                             >> 275x1 (PR) the spotter helped a tiny bit, fucking retard. I told him hands off.
225 x 3                             >> Would have gotten it alone for sure.
245 x 1
275 x 1
245 x 5 PR
225 x 6
185 x 5 (paused)

Incline DB Bench
75's x 8
75's x 8
75's x 8

Hack Squat Calf Raise
Some warm up sets
Some heavy weight to failure for 3 sets

-= Study Log =-

Mike Myers Network+ Exam Guide
Finished Chapter 10 of 21

FlashCards Deluxe - Chapter Notes
Chapter 10 notes done (58 cards)

FlashCards Deluxe - Quiz Questions
Learned 119 of 283 cards

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435 wasnt a true max at all. Didnt hype up for it. I was nervous though and therefore a bit adrenalized but i could have it it without adrenaline as well. It was very little.

Both PRs. I hit 385x5 on monday as well, but it knees were caving in on last rep of it. This is more solid for sure. On my phone so ill update this post with the full workout tmrw

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: April 14, 2016, 09:50:29 am »
^ Hey thanks I'll try em out! I never tried neutral grip DB shoulder press before. Only standard grip, which works out my tris way too much to the point where my delts never grew but my tris would overtake them. Same with bench presses, chest never grew. So for the past few years i've taken the tris out of the equation as much as I could: no OHP, just lateral raises, and wide grip benches. I finally have pecs and delts now. Tris are still growing anyway lol.

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