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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 09, 2013, 10:14:37 am »
Why don't you try some RL plants off two? If you're right handed you're going to need less thoracic extension and shoulder flexibility to "dunk" since you can get your arm behind you (unlike in a LR plant with the right hand up).

If you have a stronger right leg and you kick with your left, then a RL plant should actually be a more stable plant for you.

my reach is higher with my left arm, i think in part because the shoulder is higher on that side. because i'm just trying to dunk off a lob, i'm happy to go with my non-dominant hand if it means i can reach higher.

and as subpar as my coordination is LR+left hand up, it's the most natural-feeling way to jump off two and i've practiced it many more times than any other configuration. RL plant is awkward as fuck, next time i jump i'll post some so you see what i mean. twill be ugly. LR+right hand up is also ugly.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 09, 2013, 09:55:09 am »
Any reason for the single leg jumps of both left and right? For mine you look much more coordinated off your left foot so I'm wondering why you'd even bother doing both legs. As a natural one foot jumper I can't imagine ever jumping off my right leg. I used to have to do it for training when we did left handed lay-ups but would never do it outside that situation.

i alluded to it in the description of the videos: i'm historically much stronger planting with my right leg. it's less noticeable now but for many years my right leg was visibly bigger than my left. a vestige of my idiosyncratic -- read: wrong, but whatever, it worked for me -- stance when i fenced. even had a massage therapist comment on the difference in muscle tonus between the two legs a couple years ago, completely unprompted, probably 6-7 years after i stopped fencing. i kick left-footed, too (when i kick at all, my 80-year-old-man toes mean i don't often play soccer or practice my field goal technique), for what that's worth. i think the potential in my right leg is still probably greater, if i can figure out why i'm so tentative off it and fix that.

@raptor: good point about getting lower in the approach. i was trying to do that at the track the other day when i had my horrible 95-degree workout. something to practice. and yeah, gonna keep trying to boost the ol' hammies. more GHR, more RDL.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 09, 2013, 12:42:19 am »
not good but not completely humiliating.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddo-q1GSlnQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddo-q1GSlnQ</a>

the first SLRVJ is especially bad and if my computer didn't suck so much i'd cut it out of this vid, but i think you can see what i mean about the bad technique on the right leg. left leg approach is much more confident.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3sqoz9nHFo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3sqoz9nHFo</a>

ETA: i welcome the video jump height sleuths to estimate how high i am here. from my own analysis it seems like the DLRVJ were in the 30-31 range and the rim is actually 10' after all, not higher as i imagined at the time. c'est la vie. now it's (past) time for bed.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 09, 2013, 12:32:41 am »
yeah i'd imagine the cutoffs are just to intimidate pretenders and make sure that whoever shows up is actually somewhat fast. it'd be hard to field a varsity team if your cutoffs were that ridiculous. 10.3 would have blown away the field at the pac-10 championships last season and been the fourth or fifth-fastest time anyone in the conference had run all year.

btw. oregon had a girl run 10.96 last year!  :-X

WEIGHT: 174
SORENESS: none
ACHES/INJURIES: none
MENTAL STATE: pretty good (which is, somehow, better than "good")

- warm up
shot around, lots of layups

- DLRVJ x ~15-20
i think the rim was a bit high, but jumped higher on it than i have before (one or two other times at this court). touched every time, got a knuckle over a couple times. feeling okay.

- SLRVJ x ~12-15
felt better off left than right although heights roughly the same, ~2-3" short of the rim. something odd has happened to my left-footed SLRVJ vs. my right. right has always been dominant and often still is, but i think my technique is better off my left now. not sure why but i seem to gather myself better, if that makes sense. may not for the nonnative english speakers. sorry bros.

- squat 330 x 1,1,1,1
meh

- bench 170 x 10+3+3+3
hard, wrists feeling it. got all the reps solidly, though

- BOR 170 x 10+3+3+3
ugly, body english involved, ego check time.

- DB RDL 70s x 10,10

- various pull ups and chin ups and clapping pull ups

- rear delt flyes 15s x 10

- hanging leg raise x 10,10

- double-unders for time
lost count, god damn it. bad, though, my forearms were tired and that fucks everything up.

(later)

- stretch

got a little vid. i love this gym and wish i could go to it all the time but it's in baltimore. oh well. costs me $25 a session to drop in, too. unless the girl at the front desk lets me in free, but some other lady was there this time. oh well.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: September 06, 2013, 11:57:33 am »
Still.. is it healthy/unproblematic over the long run when your upperback collapses that much? I don't know, but I hardly doubt it... Again I have a lot of respect for that achievement so I'm just trying to help here.

it doesn't collapse, you are seeing things.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 06, 2013, 11:56:13 am »
yeah it's the 150s test. i ran the 150s in about 25s -- remember how slow i am -- but my recoveries were shortish, maybe 15-20s each. i did walk them.

in re: the other tests:

1. best broad jump = ~9'3-9'6, somewhere in there
2. 30m fly = ???
3. SL bound = ??? because i don't know how many bounds, also, is this with a lead-in or from a SL standing start?
4. how far i can run in 45s = ??? but might be fun to find out. maybe next week.
5. event-specific tests = i still can't jump that good

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Track & Field / Re: the T0ddday test
« on: September 05, 2013, 10:05:12 pm »
4:41. i thought i'd fucked up the distance somehow but i re-checked on google maps and nope, i did it right. i'd trade my time for vag's in a heartbeat if it meant i could jump 8" higher.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 05, 2013, 10:03:04 pm »
WEIGHT: ???
SORENESS: hamstrings a very little bit
ACHES/INJURIES: hips tight
MENTAL STATE: CNS firing a bit slow

- warm up

- SL bounds x 5,5

- broad jump x 4

- DL bound x 4,4,4
first two sets above average, probably 12.5 yards

- sprint 40y x 3; 60m x 1
shit, just awful. need to run with avishek again because there's a chance i'm really screwing myself on timing. or maybe i'm just slower than i hope. not even posting the times i got.

- DSVJ, DLRVJ, SLRVJ x a bunch
went for 15 minutes or so. not good. did some of T0ddday's suggestion of running faster than i can manage and planting without worrying about how high i get.

- T0ddday test
4:41 and this wasn't even that hard. so either T0ddday's people are in horrible shape or i'm in better shape than i think.

- stretch

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 :lololol:

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all that shit is determined by your physiology -- lower leg/upper leg/torso lengths. don't judge your technique against what you see oly-level weight lifters doing. it's not like they're consistent with each other. there are many ways to achieve the same thing, which is a leg-driven squat.

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the weightlifting shoes will change your mechanics more than you think. take these photos again once they arrive. also be humble with weight once you get 'em; i fucked up my hip after my shoes came because i thought i could just keep going with the weight i was using before. better to back off briefly and work quickly back up. you won't lose strength but it'll help you adapt to the new movement safely.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 05, 2013, 09:32:22 am »
that's actually a good idea. i can perfectly maintain form all the way down, it's on the concentric where it gets HARD. mmkay gonna do that. thanks raptor.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 05, 2013, 09:08:32 am »
see now those GHRs would not pass the alexv test. hips first, torso follows.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 05, 2013, 08:55:53 am »
Yeah but here's the thing - GHR = knee flexing exercise. Leg curl = knee flexing exercise. RDL = hip extensor exercise.

That's what I meant.

ah, touche, touche. that is a good point. i guess that was joe's point, too.  :uhhhfacepalm:

hadn't thought about adding leg curls of any kind. i could throw in some non-strict GHRs to get the volume work in but i'd rather focus on quality on those. once i can rep out more than a few i'll be a beast.

EDIT: someone downvote that post i made with DB RDLs in huge type.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 04, 2013, 11:20:28 pm »
120 pounds is low. i just started doing them so i'm trying to avoid the major hamstring DOMS. no harder than barbell, i'm using DBs because i don't feel like loading a barbell again at that point in my workout. my gym goes up to 120s, which is double what i'm doing now. once i pass that i'll start with the BB.

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