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Performance of the week: SONDRE MOEN - EUROPEAN MARATHON RECORD
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On Sunday in Japan at the Fukuoka International Marathon, Norway’s Sondre Moen took the tape in 2.05:48 and became the first European to run a 2.05 Marathon.
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Moen’s race win and European Record is our performance of the week.
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Moen has been in fantastic shape in recent months having run a sub 28minute road 10k in September followed by a Norwegian record over Half Marathon in October in Valencia when he ran under the 1hour barrier clocking 59:48.
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He is a favourite of ours at The Kenya Experience as he completes much of his training in Iten, under the tutelage of Renato Canova, so we were delighted to see this breakthrough performance.
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The race on Sunday morning followed the planned 3’00”/km pace throughout the first 30km which was reached right on 3minute average pace. At that point pre race favourite Bedan Karoki of Kenya made a move and increased the pace into the mid 2’50’s. Moen went with him and it ended up being he, rather than the Kenyan who continued to push the pace in the latter stages of the race.
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Running the 29:16 for the 10km from 30-40 was more than enough to do irreparable damage to Karoki, who faded and was passed by Uganda’s 2012 Olympic Champion Stephen Kiprotich and Japan’s Suguru Osako in the latter stages of the race, and set Moen up for the win. The question then became how fast could the Norwegian man go, and in running the final 2.2k in 6:24 he ensured his name is now forever in the record books as the first European athlete to break the 2:06 barrier.
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Race Results:
1 Sondre Nordstad Moen (NOR) 2:05:48
2 Stephen Kiprotich (UGA) 2:07:10
3 Suguru Osako (JPN) 2:07:19
4 Bedan Karoki (KEN) 2:08:44
5 Ammanuel Mesel (ERI) 2:09:22
6 Daisuke Uekado (JPN) 2:09:27
7 Yoshiki Takenouchi (JPN) 2:10:01
8 Michael Githae (KEN) 2:10:46
9 Yuki Kawauchi (JPN) 2:10:53
10 Takuya Fukatsu (JPN) 2:12:04

Quote from: adarqui on December 05, 2017, 09:55:06 am

FWIW I mentioned the PR train in the other thread, b4 seeing you mention it.. lmao!

yup, this is great stuff.

how did those sprints feel a few days ago? you feeling any differences lately, in part due to your PR's?

also, sprints before bench is pretty solid.

Over the 40m I'm feeling more powerful so I might have improved my 40m a bit but I haven't been timing any of my ME sprints. The 100m is a different story for two main reasons.

Firstly I haven't been doing any speed work or speed endurance so I'm physically just not trained to be in the state to run a fast 100m. Secondly and arguably just as, if not more importantly, I'm carrying too much body fat. My weight is only around 83kg but my body fat is probably about 15% mainly due to poor diet. Furthermore, for me personally I run faster when I'm leaner but also when I'm lighter. I've always said for me to run at my peak I need to be weighing around 75kg (165lbs) at <10% bodyfat.

It's kind of like running backs v wide receivers. Generally there isn't a hell of a lot of difference between the 40 times of running backs compared to wide receivers. Sometimes there are running backs that will even run faster 40's than the wide receivers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash

"According to a five-year NFL combine report, wide receivers and cornerbacks had the fastest average times at 4.55, followed by running backs at 4.59. The following average times were measured between 2008 and 2012 at the NFL combine".

Position           Time
Wide receiver   4.55
Cornerback   4.55
Running back   4.59
Safety           4.62
Outside LB           4.74
Tight end           4.77
Fullback           4.80
Inside LB           4.80

As you can see there is virtually very little difference between the 40 yard speeds of wide receivers and running backs. Take it out to a 100m though and besides the freaky running backs (Chris Johnson 10.38 but he is on the small side for a running back at only 200lbs) the difference is light and day and the wide receivers smoke the running backs over that distance. To put it in comparison there have been lots of wide receivers & corner backs that have ran low 10.0s to combat Chris Johnson example e.g. Jacoby Ford.

nice thanks for the reply! Sounds good, just don't rush the body comp stuff that's for sure.. take the slow approach (nothing drastic) and allow everything to adjust over a longer period of time. Sound like that's what you're doing though. It looks like everything is coming together, your focus is incredible right now.

Yup, RB's would probably be more competitive on average through 60m in track. Not having the length hurts for them because they don't specialize in 100m usually, so they don't have those more natural advantages passed 60-70m. If they specialized though, i'd imagine they could be just as competitive with the WR's who have more length. Traditionally, successful 100m sprinters are built more like corner backs IMHO, not taller like WR's, so if running backs lost some mass and specialized more in 100m, I think they'd be more of a traditional 100m build. All of that is changing with Bolt though, I imagine we'll see tons of tall 100m sprinters in the future. I mean, most coaches would have probably laughed Bolt off the track if he talked about wanting to be a gold medalist 100m sprinter - he's just too tall and massive, no way he can recover from the first 60m. He proved everyone wrong though.. and now we'll see taller kids believing they can be the next "Bolt" in 100m. I'm expecting taller 100m guys in the 2028, 2032+ olympics etc.

Also, those numbers you listed are just the averages of course.. The outliers are absolutely mind blowing, ie when we see Linebackers running 4.4x-4.5x, offensive linemen running 4.7x etc.. Just insane. NFL athleticism is still the most impressive to me, out of all sports.

peace!

photo on the account of the guy who ran that 4.17 in the antarctic.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=2ZupBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA36&lpg=PA36&dq=the+speed+encyclopedia+sprinters+max+squats&source=bl&ots=a9PF-Qocgn&sig=2kKJkbB-Hxmz6-VWJEUSB4s1B_0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwinm-6JnvXXAhVHTLwKHUeABtEQ6AEIODAC#v=onepage&q=the%20speed%20encyclopedia%20sprinters%20max%20squats&f=false

Page 36 of 'The Speed Encyclopedia' features elite sprinters and elite NFL players bodyweights, max squats, squat to bodyweight ratio, 40 yards and 100m times.

nice find!

i bet there's some serious squat form/depth variation going on in that list though, especially with the sprinters (higher depth squats).

o sh*t... wildcard dunker = <spoiler>.. epic.

I got Rigo in 12 .. but i'm not confident about it.

rigo in 12 is a risky pick because he's just not as active as Loma .. but i'm basing my pick on him shutting Loma down. His counter punching & defense should slow Loma down for the first time in his career.. based on that, I pick Rigo.

12/9

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miami: https://www.go90.com/videos/6lxgOe4cmwx

LA: https://www.go90.com/videos/8Fxj2ouK4lk

LA dudes are way better so far hah. Miami rim looked higher and/or they were just shorter lol.

man Purdie & Staples are such pros.. ridiculous. They just look so elite compared to everyone else.