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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 03, 2016, 09:42:20 am »
Week 97
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Tuesday - 02/02/16

-= Workout Log =-

Pull ups
+30lbs x 12 PR                       >> 60sec rests.
+30lbs x 6                             >> Did not expect to hit 12 reps. Will up weight next time.
+30lbs x 5
BW x 6
BW x 4

Lateral Raises
35's x 3                             >> 60sec rests.
40's x 2                             >> Realllly didn't expect to get 12 reps here either. Nice!
45's x 1
40's x 12 PR
40's x 5 PR
40's x 4
35's x 10
35's x 5

Cable Rows
180 x 5                            >> 60sec rests.
200 x 2
220 x 6 PR
220 x 5 PR
220 x 4 PR
200 x 5 PR
200 x 4 PR

Ab Pulldowns
95 x 5                           >> 60sec rests.
145 x 15 PR                  >> Did not expect 15 reps for the first time at this weight. Nice.
145 x 8 PR                    >> Can't exactly remember weights on last two drop sets. May be inaccurate.
145 x 6 PR
 120 x 3 PR 
  115 x 6 PR   

Rear Delt W Flyes
25's x 5                                   >> 60sec rests.
30's x 12 PR
30's x 10 PR
30's x 10 PR

Excellent workout. Starting to look pretty big in the mirror. I've never though of myself as big before. It'll be time for some pics soon. Maybe when I cut to 195 or so.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 02, 2016, 08:56:37 am »
Quote from: LBSS on February 02, 2016, 08:50:02 am
1. get stiff measuring tape, bring to gym
2. position plyo box under pipe
3. stand on plyo box
4. extend measuring tape overhead until it reaches pipe
5. take reading
6. add to your reach height and height of box
7. profit

Oh yeah... I kept thinking i needed a fishing pole thing to hold a string up to the pipe and let it drop to the floor. Then measure string. Forgot about adding my own reach. I'll have to measure my reach up to my thumb/how i hold the tape

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 02, 2016, 08:33:55 am »
Quote from: Coges on February 02, 2016, 12:47:04 am
Who needs DB incline bench when you're PR'ing everything in sight.

Squat looks solid.

Btw, may look a little odd but why not take a take measure to the gym and measure the point you jumped to?

Theres this pipe running below the ceiling that i am for. I only touched it using deeper knee bend. Thats what i want to measure, but dont know how to get up there with a string or something. I'll figure something out.

Its so much easier having a bball court and just seeing how far down your wrist you can hit the rim!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 01, 2016, 11:57:24 pm »
Week 97
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Monday - 01/28/16
200.2lbs

-= Workout Log =-

Jump Rope       2 x 200             >> 60sec rest.
Tuck Jumps      2 x 10               >> 60sec rest.
SVJ's              3 x 1                >> 60sec rests.

ATG Squat
135 x 8                                >> 2min rest.
185 x 5                                >> 3rd rep was really tough. Grunted loudly.
225 x 3                                >> No adrenaline but I was a little angry.
295 x 1
345 x 1
385 x 3
325 x 6 PR
325 x 3 PR
325 x 3 PR

Bench Press
45 x 15                               >> 2min rest.
95 x 8                                 >> I'll stay with 235lbs again this week and move up to 245lbs next week.
135 x 5
195 x 2
235 x 6 PR
235 x 3 PR
205 x 6 PR
205 x 6 PR
205 x 4 PR

Romanian Deadlift
275 x 5                              >> 2min rest.
315 x 1                              >> Just too tired and annoyed to try hard on 2nd set and to do a 3rd set.
355 x 1
385 x 5 PR
385 x 1

Calf Raise Machine
360 x 5                             >> 45sec rests.
420 x 15 PR                      >> Seems like my calves don't stop improving.
420 x 15 PR
420 x 12 PR

Didn't do incline DB benches. Just didn't feel like it. Here's my squat vid:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Mn88fRc6w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Mn88fRc6w</a>


SVJ, probably 33" here: (edit: counted 49 frames at 60FPS, heel off to toes down, so its 31-32")





Feels awkward jumping like this. Which means I have the potential to jump a little higher once the movement is ironed out. I'll try doing even more knee bend in the future. Like to parallel. This can't be just 32" though... I need to measure my reach and measure an object to touch dammit.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 01, 2016, 08:21:05 pm »
Will update later. Did a normal SVJ. Then did two more with deeper knee bend. Felt very awkward and took me like 10sec to do it lol. Immediate 2" increase on vert! Didnt even bend to parallel level. I'll try deeper next time.

Got vids of them and a vid of 385x3 squat.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 01, 2016, 01:48:29 pm »
Quote from: LBSS on February 01, 2016, 12:11:31 pm
people can come work out with me if they are willing to do exactly what i was planning to do anyway. it would actually be great to have a workout partner who was down to do the same routine as me.

That would be really nice. I don't know if I'll ever enjoy that lol.

I've done my routine with him and he still got in the way. Others too. I do a lot of warm up sets and rest an okay amount between them. They don't like to do all that. Even then, if I want to rest 2min between my squats, they'll want to go again before me and then by the time I have to squat they'll still be squatting.

Even worse is yep, doing their exercises and shit. And worse yet, is messing up the order. I'll do all your lifts when I'm done with mine. No I don't want to do cable chest flyes before benching. I'll do them after benching, maybe, for a little. And no I don't want to do close grip bench press. Just regular. Maybe I'll do close grip after my regular benches.

And wtf is this? Why am I doing pyramid set?!?! They don't make sense! I'm tired as fuck for my 3RM now. We should do REVERSE pyramid sets if anything. :raging:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 01, 2016, 09:37:38 am »
Week 96
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Friday - 02/05/16

-= Workout Log =-

Cable Rows

Lateral Raises

Pull ups

Ab Pulldowns

Rear Delt W Flyes

Worked out at my friends gym. Did random shit in addition to the usual, but even the usual was screwed up with rest times and a bunch of stuff. Don't feel like typing it and don't remember it either. Damn i hate working out with other people. Fucks everything up. No I don't want to do your workout. I'll do mine and you do yours.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: February 01, 2016, 12:24:57 am »
Ate a TON this weekend and spent way too much money on food :(
Pooped tnite and then weighed myself at 203.8lbs!!! Havent been this heavy since January 2011 five years ago when i was 210lbs... Took another poop and brought it down to 202.8lbs. I know i still have food in me plus a bunch of glycogen stored from increased food/caeb intake. Also a lot of water weight, i can even feel it in my face.

Cutting down to 193lbs by March 1st. I'll probably be down to 196-197 in the morning a few days from dropping glycogen and water, so this wont be too difficult.

I know i'll crush 385x3 on the squats tomorrow though ;)

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kingfush: SVJ 2-hand dunks 2.0
« on: January 31, 2016, 11:27:35 am »
Woohoo! So what's your squat:bw ratio right now?

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: About the hangtime based vertical jump calculators
« on: January 31, 2016, 10:03:09 am »
Quote from: vag on January 31, 2016, 04:53:13 am
Iphone 6s does have high frame video, don't expect huge differences though, when you are between , say 24 and 25 frames at a 30 frame video, the 240 frames will only tell you it was 24,3 , no big deal. The other errors in that measurement ( knee angle at landing, horizontal displacement ) are more significant.
You can always use the hangtime as an indicator, but stick to the highest touch for accurate measurement.
Agreed. My current gym doesn't have a single good spot to test highest touch :( There is this one pipe running below the ceiling that I can only touch on my best SVJ days, and it happens to be a good goal to aim for though. Sooner or later I'll be able to get it almost every workout. Damn I miss having a gym with a basketball court in it...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: January 31, 2016, 09:57:26 am »
Lackluster update: ended up cancelling plans with friends to play basketball lol. I'll do more SVJ's on monday before lifting. I'll try deeper knee bends.

About the reaching up thing that T0ddday mentioned:
Another factor is that if I jump high and reach with my right arm, my body shifts to the left a little so my shoulder/elbow/wrist/fingertips are lined up "north/south" moreso than before. Sure when you do a standing reach this happens to some extent, but not completely as both of your feet have to be flatfooted.

A real vertical jump height is measured by how much you move your center of mass. But what if we have two people who both have a reach of 96", but one of them has size 9 feet and the other size 14? If they both have a highest touch of 120", is the one with way bigger feet really jumping as high as the other? Sure the difference is minimal, maybe 1.5" but... it bothers me dammit. I guess "vertical leap" isn't clearly defined is it.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: About the hangtime based vertical jump calculators
« on: January 30, 2016, 03:51:23 pm »
bump for more input from people

i want to get to the bottom of this

wish we had a 240fps camera (actually i think my iphone 6s does that) and did a bunch of measured jumps and graphed the (touch - reach) against (toes off ground - toes on gound) and also against (flat foot - flat foot) and found average corrections for them. maybe also see if the correction is the same as (reach on toes - reach flat footed)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Party's Over!
« on: January 30, 2016, 02:32:38 pm »
damn!

thread title...

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: January 30, 2016, 01:13:35 pm »
Quote from: LBSS on January 30, 2016, 12:53:41 pm
W/r/t trying to change the amount of knee bend: SVJ is a learned skill like any other movement, if a fairly simple one. Everyone will have a different optimal amount of knee bend, forward lean, etc., based on their structure. But that doesn't mean you can't try to add depth to your technique with submax practice and then draw on it when you max out.

Agreed! I'll be experimenting today.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Dreyth's New Journal
« on: January 30, 2016, 12:39:16 pm »
^^ Really? Damn! I don't think I have a 35" SVJ yet though, that's pretty high. I think I have to try touching a measured object to see if I should be including the flatfooted part. I'll see how high I can get up to the rim today. I may be disappointed though; my squat:bw ratio is the highest it's ever been, but I have very little movement efficiency right now so I'm not sure how high i'll jump. I also have no clue how much movement efficiency affects my SVJ. It DOES affect my RVJ a ton though.

As for the knee bend, I'll try different things and see what happens. But this is important, and it drives me nuts and I have to say it. It's slightly relevant:

High vert is not a function of low GCT per se. Do not try to consciously lower your GCT.
High vert is a function of GCT is a function of POWER.

Your GCT's are lowered by increasing POWER, not by physically trying to stay on the ground less by means of anything else, like lessening knee bend.


Similarly:
A deep knee bend means you have more time to apply force to the ground and therefore jump higher right?
Well what if a deep knee bend is a function of not enough power? you're still ammortizing in a sense...
Perhaps shallow knee bend is a function of higher power, because the legs are able to reverse the countermovement instantly! This must be the case for the 50" jumpers that barely bend their knees.

Somewhere in between the two will be the optimal knee bend for everyone. But the question is: should we consciously try to change knee bend amount? Or should we just do what happens naturally, and assume that knee bend amount is a function of power?

Well hey, maybe if knee bend amount IS a function of power, is that still optimal? (I find it crazy how people can snatch more if the beginning of the movement isn't as fast as possible, but rather, the second part of it is).




edit; @vag, from your post:

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What seemed to work was use the hangtime calculator measuring the toes-off-to-touchdown hangtime, and then add the 'reach on toes - reach flatfoo
I measured 30-31" from heels off to toe touchdown. if i measure from toes off to toe touchdown, then I take away 4 frames. Instead of 48 frames, I now have 44 frames / 60FPS = 0.733sec or.... 25-26" vertical. Add the 5" correction and I'm back at 30-31" dammit.

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