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796
23-03-18

Workout/Race

Warmup -- run ~2mi in ~18 mins

Race -- 5k in 19:13 [watch timed]  :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:

Cooldown -- ~4.5mi in ~45 mins

Notes

Warmup and pre-race felt terrible just like last time, just like last time. I get so nervous, haha, but everyone does. Just gotta remember that's normal and channel is, as I eventually did.

Was in the A race this time rather than the B race, so everyone was going for <22:00. It's also the last running of this race prior to the London marathon, so there were a lot of fast folk using it as their tune-up.

After the warmup run my watch was being a little funky, I don't really remember how, so with like 3 mins until the race was due to begin I turned it off, since restarting it often helps it settle down. It wouldn't turn back on, though, so I was like "fuuuuck I'm gonna be racing without a watch! How do I do that? That's way too old school for me, fuck fuck fuck." But eventually it turned on, with like 15 seconds to spare before the race started. Not ideal, panicking a bit like that at the start!

Anyway, the race began and I was in with a big group of people, lots went off way faster -- I'm quite excited to see the results, quite a lot of people <18:00 at this I think. Took a while to settle into pace, aiming to settle at ~3:55 for the first two km. I knew that the 3rd km had a decent bit of uphill, and that I'd need, then, most of the 4th km to resettle after that, so I wanted some cushion. Km 1&2 were 3:48 and 3:50 according to my watch, so that was good. Watch also said ~.97km at the official km markers, though (as with last time), but the course is officially certified and as LBSS is so adamant about telling us, garmin's can be fucky. Anyway, the official times for km 1&2 would be a bit faster.

Km 3 was the uphill one and I hit that at 3:59. I was hurting pretty badly already after like 1.5km, to be honest, so I was getting worried. However, I told myself that a well paced 5k basically is meant to hurt the whole time and that I went out a bit slow in my last one, so there was nothing to be worried about, this was correct. Km 4 the suck was really setting in, but I held it for another 3:59 split.

Don't really remember much about the last 5km, to be honest, just kept repeating to myself "you can suffer anything for 4 minutes, come on" which helped, though I didn't manage quite the same surge as I did last time. Probably mostly because I had less energy left in me, both physically and mentally. I went out a lot harder, so legs had less left in them, and I had struggled a lot more mentally since I suffered a lot harder, so my head had less drive for that finish. The latter is something to work on, I think! More hard intervals will let me train that "drive while suffering" part of my brain more.

I basically didn't really "race" this as such, just used it as a time trial to hit a big ol' PR. There were quite a few people running similar paces and we jostled and ran along each other the whole way, but there wasn't that much movement. Like three or four people came out of nowhere after the 3.5km mark, but they must have been negative splitting hard, like I did in my first race. They came from nowhere, like I had not seen them when looking behind, but then they just surged ahead. Good hustle from them, I guess.

Super duper happy with the time. Peeved that my watch said 3.07mi again, same as last time, so perhaps the route is a little short? 100m is quite a long way to be short, though, and it is officially certified ("certificate of course accuracy 14/320" and these people seem legit: http://aukcm.org.uk/) but I guess they could set up the finish line a little wrong on the day, who knows.

A little disappointed in my lack of mental drive for a really strong kick. Despite that the pace for the last 5km was slightly faster than the first km, according to my watch (6:07mi vs 6:06mi) so that's decent.

Anyway, official results out later. Time to get serious for half training. Jack Daniels' calculator says I could be good for sub 1:30, eep.

Edit: forgot to note (1) that i vomited in my mouth at ~4km, which wasn't great, but at least I knew I was probably trying hard enough. (2) tried out my flyknit racers without socks since they're so light and socklike that this made sense to me. feet are blister city now, haha. dumb, but lesson learned. (3) looking at strava for other people from the race, most of them say 3.10/3.11mi, so i guess it's my watch. blarg. strava still thinks by 5k pr is 22:54, what a dick.

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not sure about the time differences & can't even contemplate it atm, brain is mush about to pass out. that said:

have a great race tomorrow (Friday) man!! don't worry about anything, you're in much better shape than the last 5k you did. just crush it & tell us the good news in the PR thread :D

:ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :highfive:

thanks, was good haha

798
21-03-18

Workout

Run -- 4.75mi in 46:54

Threw in like 5 strides.

Notes

Worst run ever! Felt totally dead, called it short because of this. Clearly am not at all recovered from Sunday yet. Focus now is making sure I am by Friday. Blarg.

~50% of this run was done on grass, at least, which was nice.

Don't know why this should be so much worse than Monday's run. Eep.

Edit: as day goes on upper and and more sore. This probably contributed to crappy run, but my legs also felt wrecked so it's not just that

sux but, don't worry about it. just a sign you need more recovery. it's probably a good thing that your body shut you down & you ended the run early .. another day of rest, then boom Friday crush it. sometimes sh*t run days really help hah.

Yup, trying to stay optimistic! Not like any running I could do this week would result in fitness gains by Friday anyway. Best thing is big rest.  :headbang:

799
21-03-18

Workout

Run -- 4.75mi in 46:54

Threw in like 5 strides.

Notes

Worst run ever! Felt totally dead, called it short because of this. Clearly am not at all recovered from Sunday yet. Focus now is making sure I am by Friday. Blarg.

~50% of this run was done on grass, at least, which was nice.

Don't know why this should be so much worse than Monday's run. Eep.

Edit: as day goes on upper and and more sore. This probably contributed to crappy run, but my legs also felt wrecked so it's not just that

800
20-03-18

Workout

SS1A: ng chins
SS1B: pushups

SS2A: kb ohp @ 16kg
SS2B: kb row @ 24kg

Notes

CBA to track exactly what was done, but 4 sets near to failure on everything. Legs still sore/tired so thought it best to give running a rest. Should be trying to do this workout 2xWeek i think.

Did the rows unsupported "chinese weightlifter" style. That + 1 arm OHPs is probably good core work. Chins make my abs pretty sore too when I'm not doing them regular. Sturdy core probably useful for running.

Probably another 60-70 min run tomorrow at an easy pace, distance will be decided by what pace feels easy. Thursday will play by ear, maybe 30 mins very easy. Want to be fresh for race, of course.

801
19-03-18

Workout

Run -- 6.04mi in 57:24

Notes

Super slow, avg 9:30/mi with one slower than 10:00. Somewhat sore and obvs fatigued from yesterday so no worries. Didn't check my watch during the run and just tried to keep it super chill. HR stayed in the 130s basically the whole time.

It was really cold (1C/33F) and really windy. Didn't realise that it would be windy so didn't have my jacket on. Big mistake, haha!

Ankle/achilles holding up well after yesterday, so this might be the week I go above 30mi.

killing it.

thanks!  :headbang: :highfive:

802
18-03-18

Workout

Run - 9.45mi in 1:13:09



Notes

That was great. Maintaining that ~7:45 pace was pretty easy. Same sort of pace as that long run a few weeks ago with fast friends, but way lower effort. HR stayed in the mid 160s, with miles 1 and 3 being in the 150s. Obviously went up for mile 9, when I throw down the hammer a little bit. Very pleased that after 8 fairly fast miles I had enough left in my legs to throw down 1 mile at a pace faster than my average pace from my last 5k race. Going to crush my PR this Friday. Going to have no problems with 1hr40m with the half too.

This run was done before breakfast, too.

Just easy runs between now and Friday, and a couple of rest days. Friday I'm gonna do the adarq thing and go for a moderate run after the race, too.

The first ~6 miles of this run were through muddy, snow covered fields, which was great. Low impact time off of pavements, for once, is great, but felt slowed down at times by mud and slippy ice.

Oh, it was freezing again. When I got home my shoelaces had frozen!!!  :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf: :wowthatwasnutswtf:

803
Crazy Weird Analysis & Stuff :) / Re: The Resting Heart Rate Thread
« on: March 16, 2018, 04:44:25 am »
the garmin wrist HR monitor is useless. just ignore it.

idk if in general they are so bad, some of DCRainmaker's reviews of the newer ones have them holding up pretty well compared to chest straps. Adarq's is clearly totally messed up, unfortunately; his HR on runs on strava also tend to look pretty nonsense.

804
16-03-18

Workout

Run -- 4.15mi in 36:44

Notes

Legs feel fairly fatigued, so this is the sort of day I would usually rest. Filming and travelling all day tmrw for another TV quiz thing so didn't want to stress to fit in a run tmrw so ran today. Felt pretty flat, but turned out to be decent. Cadence was higher than usual and pace was reasonable for the level of effort, so I'm pretty happy with this.

Didn't look at watch until like mile 2.5 or so.

805
I still think you're running too fast on your easy runs. You're probably running nearer your, like, half-marathon-marathon pace, and I get the impression that doing that for all your runs can definitely wear you out. I'm not an expert here at all, though.

806
15-03-18

Workout

Run -- 8.40mi in 1:13:23

5.25 easy, 2@HM (7:34, 7:33 [7:19, 7:25 GAP]), rest easy/cooldown

Notes

Runs have been a little crummy recently. Hadn't slept well most of this week until last night, so I'll just chalk it up to that.

I quite like structuring tempo-ish work this way. There's no resting in this workout, it's just run easy for a while, then try to hit that race pace for ~15 mins. Then back to easy running. Feels like a good way to simulate hitting those paces on tired legs (even easy running 5mi is going to tire my legs out a bit).

Ankle feeling decent.

807
800m+ Running and/or Conditioning / Re: Running Quotes
« on: March 14, 2018, 09:17:56 am »
The training haiku by Michael Joyner (scientist who published the paper in 1991 claiming a sub 1:58 marathon was possible):

Run a lot of miles
Some faster than your race pace
Rest once in a while

808
14-03-18

Workout

Run -- ~6mi in 53:12

Notes

Really bothers me how my watch gets all messed up on the run to the park on this route, even though it's then totally fine on the return. Otherwise a chill slow run. All feels good and in place. 8mi tmrw?

809
13-03-18

Workout

Various sets of NG chins, pushups and KB OHP@16kg

Notes

Went to physio to talk about ankle/achilles stuff, he said a lot of interesting stuff that made sense to me. Will write it up later -- still good to run 4-5x week, just have to some more prehab stuff more conscientiously.

Edit:

So basically about 8 years ago I totally fucked up my right ankle and it has had way less flexibility than my left since then and I never really did much to remedy that. Unsurprisingly that's caused issues. Surprisingly my right glute is nowadays basically asleep, as far as the physio could tell. I had kind of experinced this when I was lifting more last year, but figured it was a more subtle diff - left glute would get more sore, etc., but soreness could be pretty asymmetrical in lots of places so I never really thoughts much about it.

He had me do some one footed balancing stuff and pointed out something pretty interesting that I would have never noticed. Balance on left foot is obviously better than right, though I had always figured this was just b/c i'm left footed/handed in general. He pointed out to me, though, that when I balance on my left foot my toes are totally relaxed, but that when I balance on my right foot my toes are gripping the floor like mad. Basically because my right calf and glute are weak everything else in the area has to take over to keep stuff in check, and obviously all those little bits and pieces are not as strong/stable/capable of keeping hip-knee-ankle organisation solid, so injury is possible. Plan is simple: glute activiation daily, especially before running, and work frequently on (right) ankle flexibility and calf strength.

810
11-03-18

Workout

Run -- 7.55mi in 1:04:53

4 easy, 2@HM, 1.55 easy

Notes

[left column is actual pace, right column is "grade adjusted pace"]





Decent but not great run. Evening rather than morning. Just feel sluggish. Ate several hours before running but still could feel some gastric bother towards the end of the run. I guess if it's a heavy meal it takes a properly long time before one is really in condition to run. Also had spent most of the day on my feet, so I guess there was a bit of fatigue.

The HM pace (~7:30/mile) is basically what I need to run sub 1:40 so I thought I'd try out what it feels like. Was harder than I expected -- felt a lot more like those sub 7 paces from last Sunday, I guess because of mediocre conditions. I was also running into what felt like a fairly strong headwind, and the hood of my rain jacket acted like a parachute, lol.

Anyway, enough whining! Got good miles with some good quality work in there too. Achilles feeling fine, too. All is looking good going forward.

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