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Quote from: seifullaah73 on July 02, 2017, 07:32:34 pm

why pacquiao why??  I was eager to watch him fight then I see this and I start to dislike pacquiao as the rounds progress.
I just do not understand.

mass brainwash into thinking it was controversial decision sprouting from espn. who ever watch espn would think pacquiao won cos of the biased commentary (cough hbo and us broadcasters) I was boxnation so I think it was neutral but then again they may have been biased towards horn, which I didn't sense alot of.

3 judges, 2 from us and 1 from argentina. I would agree with 115-113 to horn.

I don't know that seems absurd to me. I thought it was clearly Pacquiao with Horn winning only 4 rounds, 5 tops, and a dominating 9th round would have given Pacquiao a 10-8 round. Even though  Horn was aggressive, he landed few clean shots(some good) and was tactically trying to gain an advantage by clinching Pacquiao and throwing shots as the referee was breaking them up. I thought he should've been cautioned for that but it went on the entire fight and it wasn't until the middle rounds that Pacuaio started doing the same and going for his right eye.

The idea of a 10-8 though, is just an idea. Horn didn't go down. It's more likely that judges would score that 10-9 than 10-8. Analysts etc scoring that round 10-8 don't have the burden of having to live up to that score at the end of the fight, like the real judges.

The 117-111 score is WAY off.

If you had Horn MAYBE winning 5 rounds, then that's 115-113 like the other two judges gave to Horn instead of Pac.

I think that's why the idea of "robbery" is annoying in this instance.. It was a *close* fight. Pac losing if he had completely dominated Horn, would make it a robbery. Pac losing in a close fight, makes it a normal fight in which judges can see a few rounds differently ringside, than people on tv.

These comments are from boxing and mma fighters and they for the most part seem to agree https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2017/7/2/15910258/they-said-what-fighters-react-to-controversial-manny-pacquiao-vs-jeff-horn-decision-boxing.

Interested to hear why you think differently. I guess we're learning that the commentary on a given network really does change your perspective.

Dudes. Just saw the fight.

Horn winning that is not at all controversial IMHO. That was nowhere near a robbery like people are saying. That was a brutal, dirty fight. Honestly I had Horn winning 7-5 or a draw 6-6. If you were a judge LIVE at that fight, the aggression of Horn could have easily caused you to give him more rounds than Pacquiao.

Everyone all over the net, including boxing analysts, need to realize Pacquiao barely jabbed and NEVER went to the body. Pacquiao lost that fight himself. You don't box a bull by just throwing straights and hooks.

Pacquiao is an elite fighter & he didn't show it one bit. He showed heart, but not smarts. No jab, no body attack, absolutely horrible strategy by Pacquiao who probably thought there's no way he wouldn't be able to KO Horn.. and it came back to bite him bad.

why pacquiao why??  I was eager to watch him fight then I see this and I start to dislike pacquiao as the rounds progress.
I just do not understand.

mass brainwash into thinking it was controversial decision sprouting from espn. who ever watch espn would think pacquiao won cos of the biased commentary (cough hbo and us broadcasters) I was boxnation so I think it was neutral but then again they may have been biased towards horn, which I didn't sense alot of.

3 judges, 2 from us and 1 from argentina. I would agree with 115-113 to horn.

Completely agree with the "announcers" swaying people. That was a very close fight. One of the announcers (I forget who it was) was keeping it real, he said it was very close.

Pacquiao had a chance to get Horn out of there in the 9th & subsequent rounds, but Horn somehow came right back & stayed in it.. I mean the ref came up to him in the corner and told him he was going to stop it. Horn comes right out and makes it a fight again.

I don't like Horn's style at all.. He's a spaz & he's dirty as fuck. But he has HEART that's for sure. This dude dug deep and keep pushing Pacquiao to his limits.



Hardly controversial IMHO. Calling this a robbery, is an injustice to *REAL* boxing robberies. 

just heard the Horn/Pacquiao news... 

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Clockers

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112688/




Another brutal movie. Damn I don't watch anything uplifting.

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