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Performance Training Blog / Re: Negative heeled shoes (track shoes) to jump higher
« on: July 11, 2015, 12:50:31 pm »
There's no logical reason why the right leg would be "stronger", statistically speaking, for right handed individuals. The natural movement for going for a jumpshot is a LR plant, with the right arm going upwards. Same with defensive stance: LR position with the right arm forwards.

The reverse is more true.

RL plants are used, in an almost exclusive fashion I suppose, by volleyball players because they can reach back with the right arm to spike the ball (similar for dunkers).

But my bet is that, statistically, LR is the more common way to plant/stay stable for right handed people.

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Performance Training Blog / Re: Negative heeled shoes (track shoes) to jump higher
« on: July 11, 2015, 06:40:42 am »
Well there are a ton of factors at work. One of them is ankle dorsiflexion - you'll tend to jump better using the leg that has the better ankle dorsiflexion. Also, you'll tend to plant first the leg that has better quad strength/that you can pistol squat better onto. It also matters what kind of "hip control" you have on it, how well your body can extend using your arm (you can reach backwards with your right arm planting RL, but planting LR you just go "up" with your right arm which is a different movement).

And so on and so forth.

Personally, I think it's "natural" for right arm people to jump LR simply because that's the natural move going into a shot, and you also stay LR in the defensive stance position so that you can reach with your right arm forward.

So, assuming you're not already pre-programmed, being a right handed guy from an early age should in principle make you a LR planter.

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Performance Training Blog / Re: Negative heeled shoes (track shoes) to jump higher
« on: July 10, 2015, 05:02:39 pm »
I never get why people plant sideways... honestly, if you're a strength jumper you should plant forward as in a squat more or less, or deadlift.

I think people plant sideways to load a leg more than the other (the first planted leg loads a lot more, and the 2nd leg "blocks" the jump).

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Performance Training Blog / Re: Negative heeled shoes (track shoes) to jump higher
« on: July 10, 2015, 12:39:49 pm »
Quote from: ChrisM on July 10, 2015, 12:21:50 pm
I'll go the other way...I cant hoop in ANYTHING but a basketball shoe for reasons Raptor mentioned. Everything else deforms horribly. Not just on defense but on offense to...crossovers, spin moves, stepbacks...ive tried them all in running shoes and cant even go half speed without feeling like im rolling an ankle.

For the jumping aspect...i think 2 foot jumpers NEED ball shoes because our plants are almost never straight forward, our feet are usually 30-45 degrees off from center. One legged jumpers I can see jumping higher in running shoes as their normally lighter and the forces arent so much lateral as they are fore and aft. Ive been meaning to try some SLRVJs in my Nike Frees....hmmm.

Completely agree with everything.

I can "afford" to play in running shoes because I don't play "desperate basketball". As in - I just go straight forward or do a crossover at best, the rest of the time I pass the ball a lot and play "slow and thoughtful".

But if I were to go crazy in terms of speed and quickness (read - out of control) - then yeah, I'll probably have to play in GOOD basketball shoes. And the only good basketball shoe I have ever played in was the Kobe 6. I have Kobe 7s - impossible to play in. Kobe 8 - impossible (and have them half a number too small, so they're awful).

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Performance Training Blog / Re: Negative heeled shoes (track shoes) to jump higher
« on: July 10, 2015, 09:18:55 am »
I have always played ball in running shoes, forever. Basketball shoes = 1 leg jumps of ~24 inches. Running shoes = 1 leg jumps of ~36 inches.

Not to mention the ability to actually move around on defense in a springy, controlled manner. Basketball shoes COMPLETELY disconnect my feet from the ground - I don't feel the ground at all. That's a very big no-no.

The only downsides of the running shoes I have EVER found for playing in them was aggressive lateral movement - sometimes you plant so aggressively that the sole deforms and bends and you just can't do anything about it.

But if you were to make the same move and rigid-ass basketball shoes (with very little exceptions, Kobe 6 being the best shoe ever for both jumping and playing) - those forces that deformed the sole would propagate themselves onto your bones and joints. Trust me, I've been there.

So unless you're a very strong guy that has muscles to take care of all these forces, I'd rather have the shoe sole deform than have these forces infringe upon my joints and bones.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: July 10, 2015, 09:14:59 am »
A story that summarizes perfectly why I don't play ball pretty much at all now: because it's full of retards and I can live happily without getting injured/in fights because a spherical object must pass through a ring.

I can let others worry about that stuff.

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Boxing / Kimbo Slice (whoever that is) vs Cop
« on: July 08, 2015, 05:24:40 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuYq8hZZeGQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuYq8hZZeGQ</a>

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: July 08, 2015, 03:48:52 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bYG8SjpFkc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bYG8SjpFkc</a>

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: July 07, 2015, 08:33:53 pm »
Haven't read these studies, but why do I have a feeling all of them used untrained people for which ANY training would be beneficial?

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Been aware of these boards for a while
« on: July 07, 2015, 04:48:32 pm »
3 calf raises = impossible

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Bios / Re: Animals
« on: July 07, 2015, 12:39:12 pm »
https://www.facebook.com/ernesto.chaves.50/videos/432451576933864/

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Bios / Re: Animals
« on: July 04, 2015, 04:10:16 pm »
https://www.facebook.com/LatinosPost/videos/vb.161989247248690/661737373940539/?type=2&theater

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: July 04, 2015, 09:38:30 am »

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: AC Barch aka Squat DR from theverticalsummit video... wtf...
« on: July 03, 2015, 05:02:01 pm »
Well, head to rim "only" if he really was 1.75m tall would mean a 1.30m VJ, which is ~52 inches or so.

But he used low angles when he was filming.

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Bios / Re: Animals
« on: July 03, 2015, 04:58:14 pm »
https://corvidresearch.wordpress.com/2015/07/01/10-corvids-who-dont-give-a-damn-about-your-rules/

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