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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: lost weight, got stronger, vertical stayed the same
« on: April 19, 2012, 09:12:47 pm »
i've been doing depth jumps for a month, couldn't hurt to maybe switch a dj session with the band shit (which i'm honestly still a little confused about but i'll figure it out)

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: lost weight, got stronger, vertical stayed the same
« on: April 19, 2012, 01:50:42 pm »
Quote from: Gary on April 18, 2012, 03:28:32 pm
What really helped me IMMEDIATELY turn my squat strength into a higher vertical was jumping againt band resistance.

Upped my squat, both low bar and high bar over a couple of years. Vertical stayed at 23". Jumped with that gimmicky looking Power Jumper and got to 25" that very day. Got as high as 28" over the next few weeks.

I'm sure you could get the same effect from using minibands.

you mean like doing jump squats with bands around the bar? i've always stayed away from jump squats. they just don't look very safe and i don't think it's worth injuring myself over, but if that's what you mean i might be willing to give it a shot

anyway, i'm not sure how i'd film myself jumping without asking someone else to do it. if it helps, i'm exactly 6'0, can easily grab the rim. something that i think is kinda strange that i've noticed is my standstill 2 foot, running 2 foot, and running 1 foot jumps are all almost the exact same

anyway, appreciate you guys' help. been takin' the last two days off save for some light basketball

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: lost weight, got stronger, vertical stayed the same
« on: April 17, 2012, 02:35:11 pm »
Quote from: Dreyth on April 17, 2012, 02:17:57 pm
Lift weights again one day. Then, on that day and for the next 2 days, don't play basketball or do any plyos. The next time you step on the court you will get higher.

It sounds like you just need a little bit of rest right now. Otherwise, practice your jumps in your plyo sessions. Maybe you're not coordinated enough to jump higher.

this has been over the course of 5+ months, so i don't think rest is the issue.  can you elaborate on "not coordinated enough"? i'm fairly above average in terms of athleticism. i've been able to grab rim for like 5 years now (19 now) and i've never actually committed to any kind of workout routine until now, aside from playing a lot of basketball

obviously, i'm not looking for some miracle answer. i'm going to continue working at it as hard as always, i just thought i would have seen some results by now

Quote from: D4 on April 17, 2012, 02:29:18 pm
I agree, if you got significaly stronger and lost significant weight, there's no reason you shouldn't be getting higher.

You're schedule has a LOT of work in it.  You're not ever recovered.  Deload for a week or so, maintain your max strength with low volume work/high intensity work and go out and practice jumping when your legs are fresh.  During this jumping training phase, I would day lift lower body only 1-2x a week with low volume, just to maintain your strength.  Its important to go out and practice max effort jumping/dunk attempts as much as you can (whenever ur legs are fresh)

like i said above, i've had several deload weeks and plenty of time to rest.  but i might take some time off lifting heavy and focus a lot more on jumping and plyos

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / lost weight, got stronger, vertical stayed the same
« on: April 17, 2012, 02:15:35 pm »
yo, been lurking here for a while and decided to finally make an account

anyway, over the past couple months i've managed to lose 40+ pounds (from 225 to ~180) and i began seriously lifting for the first time in my life.  having never really lifted before, my squat went quickly from 10 half squats of ~135 to a full ATG 295 lbs

now as someone who's been playing basketball basically my entire life, i was really hoping this would lead to increased vert, speed, etc.  however, my athletic ability has remained the exact same. i ball 4-5 times a week, lift 3-4, and do depth jumps 2 times every week and haven't seen any progress whatsoever

so i come to you guys. is there something i'm missing?
i've been an inch or two from dunking for far too long now, so if there's any advice you have, i'm listening

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