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Those exercises involve lots more than just the core. The stability ball tucks torture the hip flexors.  The side planks kill the glutes. I think you're seeing the results of strengthening other muscles than just the core.

yea i think you're right. the important thing is that they work!

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what i've experienced is that core training does help my vertical! i dont really do that type of training (planks etc) if i dont have to but there were times where our coach had us doing these exercises before practice. and they really helped my vertical especially coming of 1 foot.

think of your as a spring in the middle of your body. if you have powerful legs that put a lot of force into that spring as you trynna jump up.. your spring has to be hard as well because otherwise it would simply absorb the force like a buffer. that way you dont really get a benefit from the training you do for your legs. so get that strong and it will help your vertical especially off 1 foot and your ability to change directions quickly on the court!

What kinda core training did you do to help with your quickness and vertical?  Like strength training your abs?  Lower back?  Did you do any obliques?  Were they all weighted exercises?

nah no weighted exercises..
just stability ball tucks and planks where u move your feet up and down.. that's it..
i think the side plank with moving the upper leg up and down helped me the most since that is one of my very weak areas of the body.

but i think adding weights to these exercises will make you benefit even more from the training. we just didnt do it since there are no weights in out practice gym.

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what i've experienced is that core training does help my vertical! i dont really do that type of training (planks etc) if i dont have to but there were times where our coach had us doing these exercises before practice. and they really helped my vertical especially coming of 1 foot.

think of your as a spring in the middle of your body. if you have powerful legs that put a lot of force into that spring as you trynna jump up.. your spring has to be hard as well because otherwise it would simply absorb the force like a buffer. that way you dont really get a benefit from the training you do for your legs. so get that strong and it will help your vertical especially off 1 foot and your ability to change directions quickly on the court!

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alright i've been doing the stretches for almost 5 days now.
VJ has come back, I cant jump higher yet but at least im back to my normal jumping abilities. Jumping feels a little bit easier and more fluent.

But I noticed good gains in speed and agility. All the movements on the court, especially euro-steps, crossovers and defensive slides are a lot more efficient. I wouldnt say more explosive, but i can use my explosivity more since the steps are longer.

So far i am really impressed with what stretching has already done for me. imma keep doin this and keep yall posted

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this fool doesnt play games!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sH2qo73TLI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sH2qo73TLI</a>

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ok so here's my first blog entry:

i've been doing the stretches for 3 days now.
my flexibilty really went up but my muscles are kind of sore (i think thats also because i hit the weights damn hard on tuesday). i feel kinda loose and agile when i walk around.

but when i step on the court.. i feel like im less explosive than before. im slower in defense, my first step is slower and what bothers me most is: my VJ has decreased!!!!!!!

i dont exactly know why that is so, but i think it's because my body is not used to having loose muscles yet. so it doesnt know what to do with them and how to effectively do athletic movements with them.

but i'm not even thinking about aborting the programm now. ill keep doing it and see how it changes my VJ over time. because i cant really see any reason why being flexible should make you run slower or jump less high. because all of the top 100m sprinters, long jumpers, triple jumpers etc. are flexible as shit!!! and it doesnt look like it makes them less explosive lol.

peace

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whaddup fellas?

since i've heard a lot about people improving their vertical by getting more flexible, i thought, i'd give it a shot and use yoga as part of my training for the VJ.

i'll still do my other vertical jump training which consists of squats, power cleans, lunges, jump squats and kelly badgetts intermediate plyometric workout.

so how does it work.
every morining i wake up i do 3 rounds of so called "sun salutations" just to open up the hips in the beginning of the day.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwUDy_Ho0mo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwUDy_Ho0mo</a>


after that i got a longer session in the afternoon, where i start off by doing somatis to stretch the nerves and relax the muscles.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeJlrUPePLc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeJlrUPePLc</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r39igD7Tj8A" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r39igD7Tj8A</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kMvgv166bo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kMvgv166bo</a>
i really recommend the somatics! ur body feels fresh as hell afterwards!

then i do another 3 rounds of sun salutations to open the hips again, since i got pretty tight hip flexors.
and after that i do the beginner yoga series of yogatic.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3vLZqPZxZE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3vLZqPZxZE</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fMUPZ4IMQQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fMUPZ4IMQQ</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1Bxd4B7spw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1Bxd4B7spw</a>

and after that i usually do some glute stretches since that is one of my tightest muscles.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE6mJ0VjK7Y" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE6mJ0VjK7Y</a>

the videos do look some kind of soft. but the stretches are really good!


the main goal is to become more flexible in the hip area especially! we'll see if it helps my vertical. im not gonna measure it every week, im just gonna tell you how it feels on the court.

i will do this programm for 3 weeks on a daily basis and then move on to some more advanced routines.

if yall got any questions just go ahead and ask.

peace

and i hope i posted this in the right section lol

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Article & Video Discussion / Whey Protein Dead?
« on: March 01, 2011, 08:18:02 am »
http://www.proteinbreakthrough.com/

pretty interesting.. what yall think?

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Crazy Weird Analysis & Stuff :) / is marihuana good for VJ?
« on: February 27, 2011, 03:22:01 pm »
i've been thinking about that for a couple of weeks now.
because i have noticed that almost every baller i know that smokes a joint every now and then has serious ups! Even if they dont train at all. So i really think that smoking kush might have a positive effect on your VJ because it relaxes your nervous system or something idk.
what yall think bout that? lol

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Introduce Yourself / Re: hello from switzerland
« on: January 29, 2011, 06:56:27 am »
yeah i know Feldmeilen. i actually worked there for a little bit this fall.
oh thats cool! good luck with that!
yeah i've been playing organized ball for 6 years now. i'm playin for the birstal starwings from basel right now. oh yeah i know swiss central basket.. we played them couple of times last season in the under 20 division. they're pretty good.

thx man. no i dont have any idea! just trynna get a scholarship to a d1! but it's tough u know.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: hello from switzerland
« on: January 28, 2011, 09:20:13 am »
Hey man, welcome.
I actually live in Zurich too, but I'm in college in the states right now. Where in Zurich do you live? Do you go to an international school or are you in a kantonsschule?
I checked out you're thread in the journal section too, looks like you've got some hops. Rep the swiss and get dunkin!

thx man!
yeah i live in kloten, right by the airport. which part are you comin from?
u playin ball in a college over there?
i finished kantonsschule a year ago so right now im just practicin and gettin ready for university.. but actually im trynna get ready to play in the states at a college ;)

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Introduce Yourself / hello from switzerland
« on: January 27, 2011, 08:28:25 am »

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