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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: November 26, 2014, 05:06:30 pm »
26/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 24

Front Squat
bar x 5
60 x 5
80 x 1
90 x 1
100 x 1
110 x 1
115 x 1
120 x 1  :personal-record:

Ring Chins
bw x 5
+5 x 1
+10 x 1
+15 x 1
+20 x 1
+25 x 1  :personal-record:
+30 x 1  :personal-record:

Pretty stoked about the results tonight. FS was a struggle for 120. Doesn't look so bad on video but I can see a few areas that I need to improve on which should lead to more gains.
Chins were a complete surprise. I had planned on +20 being the top single but 10 and 15 felt so easy that I figured I'd keep going. Will be nice to build up to some reps at these weights though.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: November 25, 2014, 05:20:02 pm »
25/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 23

Wide Grip RDL
60 x 5
60 x 5
DL
100 x 1
120 x 1
140 x 1
150 x 1
160 x 1
170 x F

Incline Bench
bar x 5
40 x 5
60 x 1
65 x 1
70 x 1
75 x 1
80 x 1  :personal-record:

So fricken pissed at missing 170. Got it up to knee height and felt it way too much in lower back with minimal leg drive so dropped it. Looking back at video there was almost no rounding of the back so quite weird. I'd like to blame the virus/lack of sleep that I've had lately but realistically it's probably more the lack of stretching/mobility work and core strength that's letting me down. Definitely something to work on. 

On the positive side I had a PR on the incline bench. Felt like I had another 5+kgs in the tank too which is nice. At the end of the year I will have to max out on flat bench to see if I can break the 100 barrier for the first time in forever.

Ran out of time for front squats and chins to will do tomorrow. I think one of my problems is taking too much time between sets idk. Including a 7-8 minute warm up the deadlifts took around 35 mins. Just seems rather long. I should probably also focus more between sets and do less cleaning up of my garage.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: November 24, 2014, 05:59:23 pm »
24/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 22

Wide Grip RDL
60 x 5
60 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5

Incline Bench (fat gripz)
bar x 5
40 x 5
60 x 5
60 x 5

Front Squat
60 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5

Ring Chins
bw x 5
bw x 5
bw x 5
bw x 5

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: November 24, 2014, 05:58:33 pm »
Skipping is great for light feet. Maybe doing drills that mimic the movements you want to be light and quick at would help too.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: November 23, 2014, 06:20:31 pm »
Mental note to self- do some banded pull aparts

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: November 23, 2014, 06:17:50 pm »
I srsly wud love to do 1 leg stuff IF I had access to heavy dbs. I actually miss that aspect of training quite a lot having only a barbell. I will try to incoorproate one leg skips again though, i miss doing those and  they prob helped stiffen my legs up a bit earlier this year when i used to do them regularly for a month or two.

i really dont find the deadlift at all appealing on any level.. its just an ego lift in my experience. and i hate it when people show off about their deadlift numbers like it means anything.. i guess im a purist that way, good squats are the only lift i respect and covet. also not sure my body type will benefit from deadlifts since i'm naturally quite good at them, they don't really do much that MY squats dont already do* (probably, if you can think of a benefit let me know?).

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*edit- regarding the jumping thing. I'm very much a single leg jumper but would jump off two 65-75% in games considering the position I played.  Not a lot of room to take steps in a key full of players.*

interesting. how would you structure single leg work for me? (question open for the forum as well)
 

If you’re naturally good at the deadlift I think you should definitely do it then. If you can pull 2-3xbw I would argue it will only do good things for your body, your vertical and your athletic needs.
If you feel you’re already good at them then go for more difficult variations. Wide grip and snatch grip pulls, both from the floor and RDL style.

As far as being a purist, all lifts originally started from the floor didn’t they? I wonder how people managed to get the bar to their shoulders? 
:trollface:

Regarding single leg work, use a barbell. Or do higher reps using your weight plates.

Realistically, and as LBSS touched on, it’s more about change and challenge than anything else. I think you could do a lot worse than to front squat, deadlift, throw in some lunges, sprints/hill sprints and plate swings for lower body. For upper body do whatever pleases you. Summer is just around the corner. Bench, ohp, chins, rows, curls etc.

I think we all tend to overcomplicate things and pretend that we’re all more special/advanced than we really are. If you just did the lifts without trying to shoot the lights out, got in some quality anaerobic/aerobic work and ate to support the training your results would be great.

Or, do what I’m currently doing. Pick 5 lifts and do them 5-7 days a week. You phone in 3-4 of the training sessions. Just get in there, do the lifts and get out. 1-2 of them you actually get the chance to struggle for improvement. It’s a nice mental refresher to not have to worry about trying to smash it every time you step in the gym. You’re just putting in the work and the results will be there.

Long post, idk if any of it makes sense but the overriding message is: don’t over think it.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: November 23, 2014, 05:10:52 pm »
22/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 20

Rest

23/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 21

Rest

Had a massive weekend of eating and drinking with my sons birthday party on Saturday. Was 89 kg on Friday morning and 93 kg on Sunday arvo. No doubt most of it will be food. Off the grog for a few weeks too. Have been drinking a little too much for my liking so think it's time to give it a break.

 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: November 23, 2014, 05:01:55 pm »
21/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 19

Wide Grip RDL
60 x 5
60 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5

Incline Bench (fat gripz)
bar x 5
40 x 5
60 x 5
60 x 5

Front Squat
60 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5

Ring Chins
bw x 5
bw x 5
bw x 5

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: November 20, 2014, 07:08:25 pm »
Im too uncoordinated to do olympic lifts properly :( I'd like to but i suck at the movements. what makes me body type of long limbs good for one sport (basketball) is terrible for another (oly lifting). im not too keen on front squats, been there done that. i front squatted 3x a week for 2 years lol. im not touching deadlifts again with my history of back injuries. i dont see hte point of single limb work when im very much a double leg jumper nowadays. well. kind of. i still end up doing layups and general basketball movements off one leg which i wish i could fix because im a much better two leg leaper but i have no control over that, it just occurs subconsciously

Maybe take up Zumba then  :P

Fair call on the oly lifting.

What I was actually trying to get at is you've done the squatting 3 times a week thing. Front and back. Maybe squat once or twice a week. Single leg work still has merits for a double leg jumper and has carry over to bigger lifts. I think you should seriously consider deadlifts. Done correctly and patiently that is. I had serious back issues for around 8-10 years (age 15 to 25). I've been able to pretty much resolve them completely with the use of deadlifts to strengthen my back.   

*edit- regarding the jumping thing. I'm very much a single leg jumper but would jump off two 65-75% in games considering the position I played.  Not a lot of room to take steps in a key full of players.*

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 :lololol:
Happy birthday old chap

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: November 19, 2014, 09:18:33 pm »
20/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 18

Wide Grip RDL
60 x 5
60 x 5
DL
100 x 5
120 x 3
140 x 2

Incline Bench (fat gripz)
bar x 5
40 x 5
60 x 5
65 x 3
70 x 2

Front Squat
60 x 5
80 x 5
90 x 3
100 x 2

Ran out of time for chins.
Will get the band pull aparts in later today.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: November 19, 2014, 07:36:49 pm »
Maybe what you need to do is something completely different from what you have done in the past. So it doesn't feel so much like deja vu. Maybe do oly lifting. Maybe front squats and deadlifts  :o  Maybe single leg work. idk.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: November 19, 2014, 07:07:05 pm »
18/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 16

Band pull aparts x 40

Wide Grip RDL-
60 x 5
60 x 5
100 x 5
100 x 5

Incline Bench (fat gripz)
bar x 5
40 x 5
60 x 5
60 x 5

Front Squat
60 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5

Ring Chins
bw x 5
bw x 5
bw x 5

RDL was prob just a bit too heavy. Still fairly well controlled but lost sense of the movement.
Feeling a good rhythm on front squats. Descent has great control with good use of a little bounce at the bottom. Feeling nice on these. Interested to see if I can get 120 next week for a single.

19/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 17

Rest

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: November 17, 2014, 09:01:14 pm »
16/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 14

Rest

17/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 15

Band pull aparts x 40

RDL-
60 x 5
60 x 5
DL-
100 x 5
100 x 5

Incline Bench (fat gripz)
bar x 5
40 x 5
60 x 5
60 x 5

Front Squat
60 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5

Ring Chins
bw x 5
bw x 5

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: November 14, 2014, 10:20:55 pm »
15/11/14
Even Easier Strength
Day 13

Wide grip RDL
60 x 5
80 x 5
80 x 5

Incline bench (fat gripz)
Bar x 5
40 x 5
55 x 5
55 x 5

Front Squat
60 x 5
70 x 5
70 x 5

Feel like shit today. Tired and have a decent headache from a sore neck which I'm putting down to the golf yesterday. Still managed to get something done.
Am going to do 100 band pull aparts everyday going forward from here for some more balance.

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