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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 14, 2014, 10:54:15 am »
I didnt end up lifting today but went to basketball training. Probably a good thing but my body hates me now because im rinsed and will have to lift tomorrow :(

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: December 12, 2014, 10:53:57 am »
So before our last game a team mate asked me to pump up his ball and as I was doing so, I missed a crazy put back dunk off a free-throw miss. I was livid. And i imagine that's the kind of thing you get up to in games. Ive never felt so inspired/impressed at having (almost) witnessed something on teh court before. There is something special about dunking in a game. One day i'll experience it too!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 12, 2014, 07:00:15 am »
FBS 2x115, 1x122.5 (LPR)
BS 2x125 (=LPR), 2x127.5B, 2x132.5B (LPR)
BS 6x115 (LPR)
FS 7x99.5 (LPR or PR but who cares, shud have got 8 at least to make sure it is a PR)
BS 8x107.5 (LPR)

Squat notes:
Bit sad that i didn't have a strong squat day but ive been training a lot and fatigue has set in. So all things considered i guess it's ok. I really wanted to triple 125kg on BS and 115kg on FS  but it wasn't in the cards :( oh well.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 10, 2014, 12:38:19 pm »
too much weight. dangerous for back, low benefit. less weight, more jump.

I cud post a vid of 20kg (empty bar), 60kg, 90kg and the other 100kg set but they all pretty much the same. i wasnt much for jumping today. my aim is to add 2.5kg per week from here and end up at 2x6x115kg by the end of this 6 week JS block. I don't believe this exercise will do anyhting good tbh but im gonna try it anyway. wud rather not do them if using lighter weight though, there are better ways to waste time!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 10, 2014, 04:17:13 am »
FBS 2x115
BS 1x120, 2x125 (LPR)
JS 2x6x100 (PR)

Basketball Game

Squat notes:
Im pretty beat up so no PRs :( I contemplated tripling 125 on bs, or 115 on fs but it wasn't to be when the penultimate rep feels like a 10 RPE. Walked out 99.5kg for a possible FS 8 rep PR - that wasn't in the cards either, felt prohibitively heavy. Next time though, i'll probably get a whole bunch of PRs provided i can recover by friday.

Did my first jump squat sesh. Not sure how i feel about them, seems gimmicky. But i'll give it 6 weeks like i said.

Game tonight to come.

Won the game! wooho. i didnt score but it was a good game all the same. prob the best win we've had against a good team :)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 09, 2014, 01:31:17 am »
Might move my workout schedules to accomodate for basketball as follows :-

Wed - Heavy squat, dunks/RFD work (jump squats etc), basketball game
Friday - Volume squat
Sunday - Light squat, basketball training

Hopefully that works better than 4 training days i've been on with back-to-back sunday and monday.

I want to start losing some weight again too. Might start tomorrow though, i need to dig myself out of this recovery hole first and as a result I've been sleeping badly.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 08, 2014, 09:24:57 am »
mainly 2 reasons - 1. I cant clean much and that's never going to get better with my stupid long arms. i dont know how to get into position for overhead stuff without cleaning. I know some ppl can take it out of the rack - ive tried that - it doesn't work for me. 2. on the way up, my body doesn't know how to stay put around my abs, it throws everything upwards from the waist up - including my core/back.. that just happens automatically i cant control it -> recipe for back injury eventually. and i just dont see me using a lot of weight on this lift without hurting either my shoulders cleaning the weight or my back pushing the weight up. it's just not meant for me

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 08, 2014, 09:17:39 am »
FBS 3x100
BS 15x90 (PR)
BP 3x6x77.5

Squat notes: 
lite day

Upper notes:
Tried push presses. Dont think we're gonna work out. We need different things. PPs need stability and rock rolid core. I can't provide that. It wasn't meant to b.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 08, 2014, 05:32:45 am »
I feel physically exhausted but going to try train today. Im not sure if this is sustainable though, basketball training sunday and lifting monday might not be do-able for long. I just dont see a way around it unless i change my lifting schedule of M-W-F to say W-F-S which might need to be done..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 07, 2014, 09:06:18 am »
2 hours playing basketball at training. Im not happy with my game on either side of the court, damn unfit and zombie like (cue ali mummy impression of foreman). Cant wait to start dunking again, i miss being able to dunk with ease.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 06, 2014, 02:09:37 am »
Yeah. I wonder how good push presses wud be here also. I know L used to recommend them for athletes. I wud imagine having a kickass push press (~1.5xbw) wud do good things for no dip vert..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 05, 2014, 12:30:47 pm »
There was a guy on pendlay's forum who was doing jump squats with 140kg and everyone told him it was a bad idea. I wonder how it turned out for him.

I never got hte point of doing jump squats with a lot of dip. It seems to me that using light weight is a consequence of wanting too much depth. When i tried them, they just felt so unnatural as a movement. Plus what's the point of using all the momentum out of the bottom towards the jump? The jump itself is a seperate part and if that's what you want or need to train then might as well cut depth there. I can't help feel i'll get more carry over by using minimal dip for jump squats as well as heavy partial squats. Maybe they'll re-inforce each other and make each other better too? It's pretty exciting to explore this. i'll give it a solid 6 weeks and we'll see what it did for my game..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 05, 2014, 12:12:46 pm »
Your info is wrong, kellyb prescribes wave-loaded jump squats too with up to 30%RM.
Quote from: the kb link from the previous page
¼ rhythmic Jump squat with 45 lbs – 2 x 8-10

^ haha.

but regarding the suggestions, im less interested in jump squat variants that call for light weights like in the linked vids. If light weights worked why would anyone squat with anything more than 60kg? It has to be heavy enough to be useful that's why i feel these no dip squats might work for me not just cause they fit my need to use decent weight but also because they address my weakness where i dont have enough time to dip deeper during game time. imagine if instead of a deep dip, if i cud do a SVJ dunk with minimal dip. That improves me chances of getting a gametime dunk in the post or pulling a key rebound or important block. That's why i'm excited about no dip heavy jump squats ... provided they work.. but we dont know until i try so lets see


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 05, 2014, 10:36:03 am »
For training that 'reaction time' thing , i would suppose Lance's 1-2 jump squat is a good idea.

How do you reason? Reaction time is innate - It's not something that can be trained up. You're wired a certain way from birth. Probably. Maybe it's more plastic at adolescence than adulthood though but there isnt much to do about it. But accepting my reaction as is, how can I improve my game time performance given the limitation?

Consider I can do a SVJ dunk given enough dip (=time) but game time, i dont have the luxury to do that because by the time i've dipped down someone else has already beat me to the ball and has finished retrieving it while i'm just getting up. Or got the shot off before i block him. And what ends up happening is, I compensate for my reaction time and try to jump lower but quicker which means less dip. That's the part im trying to address - because if i can get up with a heavy barbell with a small or minimal dip i can def do the same, quicker and higher, sans barbell.

Im not worried about my back with this exercise because 100kg doesn't challenge my back (i do calf raises with 200kg and walk out front squats with 170kg..). I feel i can land safely with it, especially since my back is vertical non these non dip jump squats. The main concern I have is not hitting my head at hte top of my rack because i have the chinup bar and/or lat attachment in the way! I cud do them outside the rack but that makes me queasy in case something goes wrong, esp jumping 100kg without being able to dump the bar :/ So we'll see. Will be conservative and make the weight go up so i dont jump too high.

Btw i wouldnt take those coaches recommendation too literally. Your boy KB tells people do do JS with 45lb because he knows his main audience wud get themselves into trouble if left to work it out themselves. I have a friend who managed to improve his leap doing jump squats with 120kg. He hurt himself doing them too but he shudnt have been using that weight considering i doubt he cud do a proper squat with 90kg..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 05, 2014, 09:14:19 am »
I was messing around with assistance work when i realised how light 100kg felt and thought i could jump up with this and true enough i cud and it was easy and felt good. So i'm wondering whether i shud explore this further.

Not doing jump squats in the sense of going deep ATG and then jumping up, talking about not even dipping much at all.. because i reason, unathletic guys like me dont have the time to set up for a dip jump in a game time situation .. we have to react as quickly as possible (in our unathletic Eigenzeit) which means no dip just straight up. So if i practice jumping up with say 100kg as my SPP with minimal dip it will carry over to my game? Got nothing to lose so ima try it out.

This is prob the first time i've been excited about something in the gym for a lonnnnnng time.. hope it pays off. i have to train like an unathletic person.. it makes sense.. what works for a genuine athlete WONT work for someone like me. I shud have realised this ages ago haha.

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