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hhaha ya someone kept saying "white boy got hops, white boy got ups"

- S1: standing 1-arm db ohp: 30lb @ left=10,right=15, left=12,right=16, left=8,right=17, left=9,right=18, left=9,rigth=17, .... 40 lb @ left=0,right=5(could do more)

Quote from: adarqui on November 02, 2010, 03:57:01 pm

Quote from: Raptor on November 02, 2010, 03:22:04 pm

Because in order to get a high caloric intake, I need carbs and shit. Fat is going to increase. I can't worry "OMG I don't want to gain fat, so I won't eat that and that". I'm already taking just a protein shake with no carbs, maybe I should plus on the carb thing with that as well.

I'm not really a fan of dirty bulks, this guy is massive & has a pretty good grasp on gaining lean mass, so he's more of an authoritative figure than myself:

http://www.adarq.org/forum/nutrition-supplementation/a-post-by-mountain-man-on-body-composition/msg19994/#msg19994

^^ here's who is giving that advice: http://www.adarq.org/forum/bodybuilding/scary-motherfawkers/msg19988/#msg19988

just saying, you can eat cleaner & gain muscle without putting on very much fat at all, you just need to eat more of the right kinds of foods (eggs/meat/chicken/milk/protein supp/green veggies) & less of the bad kinds of foods (junk/sugars/huge servings of pasta/bread etc).. You can of course eat pasta/bread, but it should be in smaller portions. Stuffing your face with carbs is never a good idea for bulking imo.

Anyway, any time you think about just stuffing your face with trash to put on muscle, just look at this pic, it'll save your life:



dirty bulking = lame.

pc

Quote from: Kellyb on November 02, 2010, 03:38:30 pm

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The advantage that I see for the olympic lifts and their variants over exercises such as jump squats is that they are better scalable and also involve a more complete pattern of hip flexion/extension. That does not mean that jump squats are a bad exercise, Kelly Bagget posted a nice variation here a while ago where you make jump squats and try to touch a band overhead with each rep. I like this idea since it makes progressing in that exercise a lot more quantifiable.

nice

I disagree. I only dirty bulk (and when I cut I dirty cut) and I'm leaner than I ever have been. The reason dreamer got so fat is because he ate way too much and lifted with 0 intensity (if he even lifted at all). Rippetoe's kid lifted hard but ate way too much. He did Gomad on top of what he was already eating. So if he was eating enough for maintenance, add 2400 calories to that. About 500-750 max will go into muscle building and the rest goes into fat storage. It has nothing to do with the dirty bulk. Adding 2400 calories of chicken breast would have given him the same results.

For me, it's always been a matter of calories in, calories out (as long as you get the "right" amount of protein. Eating 15 twix bars may have the right amount of calories (3750 which is pretty good for bulking purposes) but it won't give you the results of a balanced diet). It may be different for others, but that's how its been for me. Obviously I'm just talking about weight gain/loss, not overall health. A clean diet would be way better for my health, but for muscle building purposes, who knows.

When I say dirty bulk, I'm saying eat whatever you want as long as you get the right amount of calories and enough protein (maybe 1g per pound of bodyweight. that's more than enough). I'm not saying eat whatever you want and disregard calories, acquire muscle.


And the easiest way to get calories in is to eat fat. You can do it easily with few carbs.