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Performance Area => Program Review => Topic started by: LBSS on October 18, 2011, 07:38:20 pm
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My patience for this ass-backwards clusterfuck of moronic cultthink is wearing thin. I almost started berating some random dude on the street yesterday because he was telling his gf all about this "interesting new workout methodology." Now the assholes are using the entire fucking basketball court to do running jump rope and wall handstand push ips and fucking who knows what else. Fuck them all.
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I cannot believe the amount of people getting into crossfit at my university. Mind you, I go to a Division I school and I see these huge guys on the varsity teams getting into crossfit now. Wasting my fucking time, taking up the power cage to do 65lbs push presses and squats.
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I sure hope people around here never hear about Crossfit.
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What is crossfit? Is it some type of workout routine.
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What is crossfit? Is it some type of workout routine.
ffs:
http://www.google.com/search?q=crossfit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a (http://www.google.com/search?q=crossfit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
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crossfit is pretty fun, and hot chicks love it.
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What is crossfit? Is it some type of workout routine.
ffs:
http://www.google.com/search?q=crossfit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a (http://www.google.com/search?q=crossfit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
So it is a workout routine, Nah not interested
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and hot chicks love it.
The only benefit I've seen thus far.
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and hot chicks love it.
The only benefit I've seen thus far.
you don't think someone could improve overall fitness/conditioning and even strength, using crossfit? i do.
:)
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and hot chicks love it.
The only benefit I've seen thus far.
you don't think someone could improve overall fitness/conditioning and even strength, using crossfit? i do.
:)
I sure do. But I haven't been looking at that. Like I quoted, "hot chicks" are the only benefits I've SEEN thus far.
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and hot chicks love it.
The only benefit I've seen thus far.
you don't think someone could improve overall fitness/conditioning and even strength, using crossfit? i do.
:)
I sure do. But I haven't been looking at that. Like I quoted, "hot chicks" are the only benefits I've SEEN thus far.
oh.. ;F
lots of the vids on crossfitHQ youtube have hot chicks training and dude's with pretty impressive physiques (NH).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzD9BkXGJ1M
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yea there are def. some positives to it
its gets you pretty good at everything, master of nothing but for most ppl that works well, also pretty good for fat loss in terms of getting in lots of work burning lots of calories, stresses flexiblity, strength, explosive power, endurance, def. not the worst thing in the world. some of the stuff is out there, or just too over the top but there are lots of good things in crossfit
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and hot chicks love it.
The only benefit I've seen thus far.
Hot chicks are always in love with useless shit.
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and hot chicks love it.
The only benefit I've seen thus far.
you don't think someone could improve overall fitness/conditioning and even strength, using crossfit? i do.
:)
I sure do. But I haven't been looking at that. Like I quoted, "hot chicks" are the only benefits I've SEEN thus far.
oh.. ;F
lots of the vids on crossfitHQ youtube have hot chicks training and dude's with pretty impressive physiques (NH).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzD9BkXGJ1M
That is some crazy stuff man!. I don't see many innovative workout techniques that are not around yet.
1.58 is a good one, for the trolly dashers if you want to compete in supermarket sweep or something lol.
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and hot chicks love it.
The only benefit I've seen thus far.
you don't think someone could improve overall fitness/conditioning and even strength, using crossfit? i do.
:)
of course someone could, the problem is that:
1. it's an inefficient way to accomplish either of those goals, or really almost any goal;
2. it promotes unsafe and nonsensical exercise practices;
3. it's full of bullshit information about physiology and diet;
4. it promotes a self-affirming cult mentality in which the central belief system can't be questioned and which creates a completely undeserved feeling of superiority among most practitioners*,
5. people are god-damn evangelical about it, which i hate hate hate hate hate more than anything else. you wanna do thrusters and destroy your immobile, desk-jockey shoulders with high-rep shit-form kipping pull ups? knock yourself out. just don't tell me there's something fucking special about exercising that way or that doing those things makes you ELITE. there are ? ways to get your heart rate up really fast and work your muscles really hard that don't involve combining reverse power curls with box jumps and burpees.
6. they take up too much fucking space at my gym.
*the competitors at the crossfit games don't count. they're athletic, strong and in great shape, no doubt. but also my understanding is that most don't actually train crossfit-style, but rather with good old periodized training. and anyway, that's what, .01% of the people who do crossfit?
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6. they take up too much fucking space at my gym.
Nuff said
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RATES:
$100 per month for unlimited classes
$85 per month for 3 classes per week per month (no discounts)
those are the rates for 315 crossfit that opened near me in syracuse....I shit a brick when i went from paying 15 dollars a month to 25 a month for a gym membership, idk wtf is so special about this place for it to be 4x the price. Besides I think everyone at one point has seen a girl in a crossfit video who nearly snaps her spine doing axle cleans.
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saw this posted in lyle's forum: http://gawker.com/5931288/crossfitters-worried-that-private-equity-deal-will-destroy-their-precious-crossfit (http://gawker.com/5931288/crossfitters-worried-that-private-equity-deal-will-destroy-their-precious-crossfit).
Crossfit was founded in the 1990s and completely owned by husband-and-wife team Greg Glassman and Lauren Jenai Glassman. Over the past decade and a half, Crossfit has grown steadily: first came Glassman's own gym, then a website, then, over the years, the opening of well over 1,000 4,000 (and growing) Crossfit "affiliate" gyms, which pay Crossfit for the right to the name. There's also a partnership with Reebok and the Crossfit Games competition, which is now televised on ESPN. It's a nice business.
Now, though, the Glassmans are getting a divorce. Greg Glassman is staying on in his role as head of Crossfit. But Lauren has decided to sell her half of the company to a private equity firm called Anthos Capital, for $20 million. This has caused—to state it conservatively—absolute fucking apoplexy and panic among Crossfit leadership and many of its affiliate owners.
The posts in this message board thread about the possible sale are fairly representative. Anthos is seen as a profit-hungry interloper, a bunch of outsiders set on exploiting the passion and personal relationships of Crossfit in order to peddle products to Crossfitters and soak the affiliate owners for all they're worth. Crossfit staff member Russell Greene warns:
Anthos doesn't care about professional trainers improving people's lives; they see CrossFit affiliates as a mechanism to sell more supplements and equipment... If Anthos gains control of CrossFit, then the CrossFit affiliate system will cease to exist as we know it. Affiliates will no longer pay a minimal licensing fee and manage their own CrossFit gyms as they see fit. Instead, they will report to a domineering bureaucracy that seeks to extract maximal profit from them while micro-managing every significant facet of their business. CrossFit facilities will be run like your neighborhood McDonald's or Gold's Gym.
Glassman himself writes that the Anthos offer is an "existential threat" that is "entirely destructive of our culture," and vows "None of it is for sale - at any price."
Not quite true. Paul Farr, managing partner at Anthos, tells Gawker that they already have an agreement with Lauren to purchase her half of Crossfit, subject to court approval. This would make Anthos equal partners with their avowed enemy, Crossfit CEO Greg Glassman. Sounds wacky!
"Anthos SOP is to allow manangement to continue to run the company and that is what we are planning to do with CrossFit. We are not operators and don't take operating roles," says Farr. He also says that Anthos has no intention of making affiliates sell certain supplement products, or of forcing rapid expansion of the Crossfit brand: "Will we discuss ideas which we believe will help grow and improve the business and benefit the affiliates? Sure. But Greg will continue as CEO."
In a letter to affiliates, Anthos partner Bryan Kelly explicitly says "We have absolutely no desire to change the affiliate model by turning them into Globo gyms." Judging by the continued wails of outrage from affiliates on the Crossfit forums—and talk of suing them, making a counteroffer, or even a mass exodus of affiliates away from the new, co-owned Crossfit—Anthos' assurances are not enough. And we can't really blame them. Sure, Crossfit people can be insane paranoiacs; but underestimating the lengths that P.E. firm will go to to reap its profits is never very wise.
For now, the sale of half of Crossfit to Anthos Capital appears to be in the court's hands. Then it will be up to alllll you Crossfitters out there to decide whether this unintended sellout has destroyed the mystique. Don't worry too much either way. You can always do squats without paying Crossfit for it, anyhow.
my response:
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I don't think crossfit has anything to worry about, it's still attractive only to the white yuppie with more money than sense. Except for Charles Barkley that is, but he's not even human.
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I don't think crossfit has anything to worry about, it's still attractive only to the white yuppie with more money than sense. Except for Charles Barkley that is, but he's not even human.
you seem to have missed the point.
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Perhaps. My understanding is that what makes crossfit crossfit is the PEOPLE. And the dumb exercise shit. But definitely the PEOPLE doing the dumb exercise shit. That's not going to change as long as HQ keeps charging the usual crossfit premium. It will stay attractive to the same sort of people, I don't see them changing THAT business model considering it is quite lucrative. But go on, tell me the point that I have missed - I didn't find that wall o text very readable admittedly
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Perhaps. My understanding is that what makes crossfit crossfit is the PEOPLE. And the dumb exercise shit. But definitely the PEOPLE doing the dumb exercise shit. That's not going to change as long as HQ keeps charging the usual crossfit premium. It will stay attractive to the same sort of people, I don't see them changing THAT business model considering it is quite lucrative. But go on, tell me the point that I have missed - I didn't find that wall o text very readable admittedly
the point is that the appeal of crossfit to the PEOPLE you refer to is that it is special and kind of secret and totally not corporate and outside the mainstream and better than what most pussy-ass pink-dumbbell-and-machine-loving gymgoers do. once crossfit is taken over by an enterprise whose main objective is unrelated to the production of THE MOST ELITE FITTEST HARDCOREST RAWEST ATHLETES ON EARTH, that appeal will diminish. there was a similar but much less hysterical reaction to the reebok sponsorship deal. "are we selling our soul?" kind of whining.
crossfit has been a fringe thing for its whole life, and while that status has been eroding for a few years (ESPN telecast of the WSE, the aforementioned reebok deal, etc.), it's clung to its roots pretty well. until now. gold's gym and LA fitness will start offering watered-down group-exercise "crossfit" classes, it will become about as cool as zumba and spinning, and the core audience will move on to the next thing.
that's the fear among the ELEET, anyway. and TBH i think they're right. the shark has been jumped.
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I like your version of the story a lot more, broken down nicely.
Guesses on what Crossfit 2.0 will be like? I think IF is the big new thing, everyone is doing LEAGNAINS, so that would displace the Zone diet. Perhaps a resurgence of the Warrior Diet (TM) - it has that whole Primal Warrior angle to it, a harsher Paleo for the discerning neo-crossfitter. Crossfit programming itself is just random bullshit, which will be displaced by even more random bullshit. White people love swimming, and the neo-crossfiter will likely seek newer more amphibious challenges. It would certainly keep the riff raff out and keep the existing homogeneous demographic pure. I can see laps in the pool consisting of kipping front crawl stroke, perhaps supersetting with snatching weights in a pool. I dont know, I can see it. Does Pendlay make waterproof bumpers? NO? Well he ought to, the neo crossfitter needs them now. Hardc0ar. Lots of tattoos. Oh wait Gayskull already did that. hmm. I'm out of my depth here.
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paleo dieting is already a crossfit thing. i turn into a tangle of sputtering rage when i overhear people discussing their paleo diets. at this point, when it comes up, i usually say something like, "oh, yeah, i don't really want to get into it." if i start to actually talk about it, i can't stop myself before phrases like "deeply stupid" and "brain-meltingly idiotic" start rolling out.
interesting to wonder what the next fad will be. i'd be surprised if it were a paleo exercise thing like mouvement naturale, because crossfit has already absorbed that kind of stuff into itself (POSE running, bear crawls during warm-up, FiveFingers and Inov8 shoes), and from where i sit all that seems to be on the wane in the crossmunity. everyone is more interested in olympic lifting than parkour or even gymnastics. actually, i wouldn't be surprised to see an explosion in the number of people focusing exclusively on oly lifting. it'd be cool if that were the next fad. lots of work for the very few qualified coaches. and maybe we'll be good again on a world level in a few years.
also, you might be right about IF. has all the hallmarks of an appealing fad to exceptionalist rich white people. only problem with leangains is that martin berkhan is a sexually insecure 11-year-old boy.
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I like your version of the story a lot more, broken down nicely.
Guesses on what Crossfit 2.0 will be like? I think IF is the big new thing, everyone is doing LEAGNAINS, so that would displace the Zone diet. Perhaps a resurgence of the Warrior Diet (TM) - it has that whole Primal Warrior angle to it, a harsher Paleo for the discerning neo-crossfitter. Crossfit programming itself is just random bullshit, which will be displaced by even more random bullshit. White people love swimming, and the neo-crossfiter will likely seek newer more amphibious challenges. It would certainly keep the riff raff out and keep the existing homogeneous demographic pure. I can see laps in the pool consisting of kipping front crawl stroke, perhaps supersetting with snatching weights in a pool. I dont know, I can see it. Does Pendlay make waterproof bumpers? NO? Well he ought to, the neo crossfitter needs them now. Hardc0ar. Lots of tattoos. Oh wait Gayskull already did that. hmm. I'm out of my depth here.
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Why do I have this slight impression that you people dislike Crossfit?
It's the best thing to happen to athletics ever since what fast-food did for athletics.