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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #3705 on: June 01, 2011, 02:56:37 am »
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156lbs?  Are you gonna just leave your weight alone, or are you going to drop to 145 like you said before? 
If you are still planning to hit 145, are you going to do it after you hit a specific strength number or something?

On another note, June 4 is almost here man.
Goal is to dunk.

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« Reply #3706 on: June 01, 2011, 10:14:57 am »
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Somehow, somewhere inside my head, when I done did seen this vid, I thought about a Darqui-rant.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9cfEKu1VPk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9cfEKu1VPk</a>



Had to be posted in your log.
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« Reply #3707 on: June 01, 2011, 10:16:41 am »
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New side goal: disprove this.

Quote from: Rip
It's NOT done all the time, and that is simply bullshit. Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+. Show us your data, and show us the video of the jump test method you use.

My SVJ when I started all this business was 25". I have the video somewhere. On my best days now it's probably 29". I care much, much, much more about RVJ and I'm a lot closer to 36" RVJ (obviously), but if I had a 36" SVJ I could dunk a soccer ball from a standstill. That would be neat.

edit: Assuming you're HB and Lance is Reverse Hypertrophy, Lance was on some straight TLDR shit in that thread.
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« Reply #3708 on: June 01, 2011, 11:16:52 am »
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Quote from: Rip
It's NOT done all the time, and that is simply bullshit. Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+. Show us your data, and show us the video of the jump test method you use.

I'm gonna side with Mark on this for the most part for a couple simple reasons:

1. To jump 36" or higher one has to have the combination of a ton of strength and decent reactive ability( fluid in the movement), many lifters have the strength to jump that high but don't have the reactive ability, on the other hand many athletes training for it just do not have the mindset to not give up as it will take a very long time to gain 8 or more inches on your SVJ.

2. A 36" SVJ jump is a ridiculously high jump and for the most part it takes a naturally good athlete to get to that level. I am not saying that most athletes can't get there, but it will be a much tougher road. Off the top of my head I can count a handful of athletes on this site ( A site dedicated to increasing vert) that has that high of a SVJ or even has the strength cabability to jump that high. It is a very small amount of people.

But besides that, Mark is pretty much ignorant and wants to remain that way, but that was one thing he said that I liked.

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« Reply #3709 on: June 01, 2011, 11:59:47 am »
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will respond to girljordan in a bit



do you have a link to this discussion so i can read? sounds like fun!

http://startingstrength.com/resources/forum/showthread.php?t=24176&page=1

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156lbs?  Are you gonna just leave your weight alone, or are you going to drop to 145 like you said before? 
If you are still planning to hit 145, are you going to do it after you hit a specific strength number or something?

On another note, June 4 is almost here man.

dno, i'd need to do way more cardio.. which will be possible in june.. im going to take it easier in june, i basically dunked & squatted every single day in may, need a break... that would allow me to hit some relaxed long duration interval cardio in june and get my weight down quicker.

dno tho

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Somehow, somewhere inside my head, when I done did seen this vid, I thought about a Darqui-rant.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9cfEKu1VPk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9cfEKu1VPk</a>



Had to be posted in your log.
GOGITIT!

aaaahahahahah

man i love rampage interviews.. i definitely see how that oculd remind you of my rants.. he's damn funny.








New side goal: disprove this.

Quote from: Rip
It's NOT done all the time, and that is simply bullshit. Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+. Show us your data, and show us the video of the jump test method you use.

My SVJ when I started all this business was 25". I have the video somewhere. On my best days now it's probably 29". I care much, much, much more about RVJ and I'm a lot closer to 36" RVJ (obviously), but if I had a 36" SVJ I could dunk a soccer ball from a standstill. That would be neat.

ya his same comment applies to RVJ also.. so for us obsessed RVJ'rs it makes no sense given some of our progress.






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edit: Assuming you're HB and Lance is Reverse Hypertrophy, Lance was on some straight TLDR shit in that thread.

let's just say you assumed wrong, as to who is RH.

mindfucked, amirite?









Quote from: Rip
It's NOT done all the time, and that is simply bullshit. Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+. Show us your data, and show us the video of the jump test method you use.

I'm gonna side with Mark on this for the most part for a couple simple reasons:

1. To jump 36" or higher one has to have the combination of a ton of strength and decent reactive ability( fluid in the movement),

to SVJ 36 you need decent reactive ability? nope.. some of the most horribly reactive individuals can SVJ into the 40's. it's an explosive strength dominated effort, not reactive.





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many lifters have the strength to jump that high but don't have the reactive ability, on the other hand many athletes training for it just do not have the mindset to not give up as it will take a very long time to gain 8 or more inches on your SVJ.

nope.. if you can't jump 36+, then you don't have the strength for it.. let's not forget that a number such as "2.5xBW squat" means nothing unless time is taken into account.. so if you complete your 2.5xBW squat in 4 seconds, then you definitely don't have the strength to jump 36 etc.. so numbers become irrelevant if speed is not taken into account.

as for people who give up, we don't include them in the conversation, rippetoe might, i don't.





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2. A 36" SVJ jump is a ridiculously high jump and for the most part it takes a naturally good athlete to get to that level. I am not saying that most athletes can't get there, but it will be a much tougher road. Off the top of my head I can count a handful of athletes on this site ( A site dedicated to increasing vert) that has that high of a SVJ or even has the strength cabability to jump that high. It is a very small amount of people.

well from what i remember steven-miller was never a good SVJ'r prior to training, he's gotten so much stronger it's insane, and now jups 35-36" SVJ.

you went from ~35" RVJ to ~45" RVJ..

how does "only a handful of people" give credit to your argument? if only one person can prove it is possible, then it is possible for all humans for the most part.. how hard the other humans are willing to work & how consistent they are becomes the key difference in whether or not someone will realize their true potential or just quit and have fun playing sports without focusing on performance improvement.





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But besides that, Mark is pretty much ignorant and wants to remain that way, but that was one thing he said that I liked.

he has no knowledge of the advanced methods of SPP yet tells people 36+ is a limit for "average athletes", makes no sense.. how can you know what the limit is if you have never truly tested someone's limits? you can't test someone's limits through squatting & GOMAD, that's BEGINNER LEVEL shit.. and imo, gomad is detrimental unless you really need the mass for sport, such as football or sumo wrestling.

pc rip

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« Reply #3710 on: June 01, 2011, 01:14:19 pm »
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yesterday's training:


05/31/2011

bw = 154
soreness = calves - especially right calf
aches/injuries = lower left back, left shoulder slightly, right ankle slightly
fatigue = moderate
diet = protein/water-drink + gatorade, 4 chocolates + protein/water-drink+4tspn-coffee + gatorade, dunking + gatorade/protein-drink, 3 yogurts + gatorade, run with dog (very intense sprinting/change of direction), 4 eggs + tons of egg whites + 2 bread + 1 cheese + gatorade + 10 chocolates, session{pin-7-squat=355x8, bunch of NG-pullups, calve-raises=135@5x20}, protein/water-drink + 2 gatorade, gatorade + 2 bananas + yogurt

about 70 dunk attempts to finish off may

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« Reply #3711 on: June 01, 2011, 02:12:06 pm »
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Quote from: Rip
It's NOT done all the time, and that is simply bullshit. Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+. Show us your data, and show us the video of the jump test method you use.

I'm gonna side with Mark on this for the most part for a couple simple reasons:

1. To jump 36" or higher one has to have the combination of a ton of strength and decent reactive ability( fluid in the movement),

to SVJ 36 you need decent reactive ability? nope.. some of the most horribly reactive individuals can SVJ into the 40's. it's an explosive strength dominated effort, not reactive.[/quote]

Maybe that's true, but that would be very rare, you have to be a great athlete in order to jump 40" SVJ..






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many lifters have the strength to jump that high but don't have the reactive ability, on the other hand many athletes training for it just do not have the mindset to not give up as it will take a very long time to gain 8 or more inches on your SVJ.

nope.. if you can't jump 36+, then you don't have the strength for it.. let's not forget that a number such as "2.5xBW squat" means nothing unless time is taken into account.. so if you complete your 2.5xBW squat in 4 seconds, then you definitely don't have the strength to jump 36 etc.. so numbers become irrelevant if speed is not taken into account.

as for people who give up, we don't include them in the conversation, rippetoe might, i don't.

[/quote]

I can't jump 36"+, yet I definitely have the strength to do so, I mean I'd account that to never practicing the movement, but still it goes deeper than just having the strength for it. And of course it goes deeper than numbers, I've never been one for the numbers game, I'm more for strength..







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2. A 36" SVJ jump is a ridiculously high jump and for the most part it takes a naturally good athlete to get to that level. I am not saying that most athletes can't get there, but it will be a much tougher road. Off the top of my head I can count a handful of athletes on this site ( A site dedicated to increasing vert) that has that high of a SVJ or even has the strength cabability to jump that high. It is a very small amount of people.

well from what i remember steven-miller was never a good SVJ'r prior to training, he's gotten so much stronger it's insane, and now jups 35-36" SVJ.

you went from ~35" RVJ to ~45" RVJ..

how does "only a handful of people" give credit to your argument? if only one person can prove it is possible, then it is possible for all humans for the most part.. how hard the other humans are willing to work & how consistent they are becomes the key difference in whether or not someone will realize their true potential or just quit and have fun playing sports without focusing on performance improvement.

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I never said it was impossible, I said for the most part this is true for the reasons I listed. It can happen, but it takes tons of work, and most athletes simply can't do it..





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But besides that, Mark is pretty much ignorant and wants to remain that way, but that was one thing he said that I liked.

he has no knowledge of the advanced methods of SPP yet tells people 36+ is a limit for "average athletes", makes no sense.. how can you know what the limit is if you have never truly tested someone's limits? you can't test someone's limits through squatting & GOMAD, that's BEGINNER LEVEL shit.. and imo, gomad is detrimental unless you really need the mass for sport, such as football or sumo wrestling.

pc rip
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Mark's ego has gotten a bit too big, and he should definitely not be given advice outside of his realm of knowledge which is beginner level shit, I'll still rep Starting Strength as the go to book for all beginner lifters, it is a great book to learn from.

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« Reply #3712 on: June 01, 2011, 02:20:01 pm »
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god dammit step your quote game up :F

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Quote from: Rip
It's NOT done all the time, and that is simply bullshit. Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+. Show us your data, and show us the video of the jump test method you use.

I'm gonna side with Mark on this for the most part for a couple simple reasons:

1. To jump 36" or higher one has to have the combination of a ton of strength and decent reactive ability( fluid in the movement),

to SVJ 36 you need decent reactive ability? nope.. some of the most horribly reactive individuals can SVJ into the 40's. it's an explosive strength dominated effort, not reactive.

Maybe that's true, but that would be very rare, you have to be a great athlete in order to jump 40" SVJ..

nope, look at kingfish, or other horribly reactive individuals such as many bodybuilders or olympic lifters who have decent SVJ's.





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many lifters have the strength to jump that high but don't have the reactive ability, on the other hand many athletes training for it just do not have the mindset to not give up as it will take a very long time to gain 8 or more inches on your SVJ.

nope.. if you can't jump 36+, then you don't have the strength for it.. let's not forget that a number such as "2.5xBW squat" means nothing unless time is taken into account.. so if you complete your 2.5xBW squat in 4 seconds, then you definitely don't have the strength to jump 36 etc.. so numbers become irrelevant if speed is not taken into account.

as for people who give up, we don't include them in the conversation, rippetoe might, i don't.


I can't jump 36"+, yet I definitely have the strength to do so, I mean I'd account that to never practicing the movement, but still it goes deeper than just having the strength for it. And of course it goes deeper than numbers, I've never been one for the numbers game, I'm more for strength..






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2. A 36" SVJ jump is a ridiculously high jump and for the most part it takes a naturally good athlete to get to that level. I am not saying that most athletes can't get there, but it will be a much tougher road. Off the top of my head I can count a handful of athletes on this site ( A site dedicated to increasing vert) that has that high of a SVJ or even has the strength cabability to jump that high. It is a very small amount of people.

well from what i remember steven-miller was never a good SVJ'r prior to training, he's gotten so much stronger it's insane, and now jups 35-36" SVJ.

you went from ~35" RVJ to ~45" RVJ..

how does "only a handful of people" give credit to your argument? if only one person can prove it is possible, then it is possible for all humans for the most part.. how hard the other humans are willing to work & how consistent they are becomes the key difference in whether or not someone will realize their true potential or just quit and have fun playing sports without focusing on performance improvement.


I never said it was impossible, I said for the most part this is true for the reasons I listed. It can happen, but it takes tons of work, and most athletes simply can't do it..

if someone can't do it that has no bearing on whether or not they are able to do so.. can't & able are very different.. someone may fail because they "can't" put forth the effort, but that has no bearing on the potential of the human organism.



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But besides that, Mark is pretty much ignorant and wants to remain that way, but that was one thing he said that I liked.

he has no knowledge of the advanced methods of SPP yet tells people 36+ is a limit for "average athletes", makes no sense.. how can you know what the limit is if you have never truly tested someone's limits? you can't test someone's limits through squatting & GOMAD, that's BEGINNER LEVEL shit.. and imo, gomad is detrimental unless you really need the mass for sport, such as football or sumo wrestling.

pc rip

Mark's ego has gotten a bit too big, and he should definitely not be given advice outside of his realm of knowledge which is beginner level shit, I'll still rep Starting Strength as the go to book for all beginner lifters, it is a great book to learn from.

sure, but when it comes to elite performance training, he is self admittedly clueless.. so he should refrain from opening his pie hole on these issues :F

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« Reply #3713 on: June 01, 2011, 02:23:12 pm »
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god dammit step your quote game up :F


lol.  :uhhhfacepalm:

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« Reply #3714 on: June 01, 2011, 02:23:52 pm »
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god dammit step your quote game up :F
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lol.  :uhhhfacepalm:


lmfao ^^ good one..

see how impressively i edited the above post tho, to fix rip's quotenoobishness, that's what u call bosslevel quote editing.

pC, bbl dunking.

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« Reply #3715 on: June 01, 2011, 03:05:10 pm »
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came home to drop off protein, too hot to leave in trunk but i finally took a redline.. holy shit that crap kicked in fast.. seems like it really is the real deal, sir lance knows whats up.

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« Reply #3716 on: June 01, 2011, 04:42:12 pm »
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If you or anybody you know lives near Miami, can dunk & would like to win $1k (2nd place gets $500) with a shot at competing for $10k then make sure you contact us or show up to the Goombay Festival this Saturday. Pictured: Shane Slam Wise from the ATL Showdown.

Quick DO IT!

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« Reply #3717 on: June 01, 2011, 04:58:03 pm »
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If you or anybody you know lives near Miami, can dunk & would like to win $1k (2nd place gets $500) with a shot at competing for $10k then make sure you contact us or show up to the Goombay Festival this Saturday. Pictured: Shane Slam Wise from the ATL Showdown.

Quick DO IT!

ya that's what im doing bruhbruh :F

im going to hit him up again tomorrow & then link him my dunk mix june 3.. may dunk mix.

:F

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« Reply #3718 on: June 01, 2011, 05:52:49 pm »
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If you or anybody you know lives near Miami, can dunk & would like to win $1k (2nd place gets $500) with a shot at competing for $10k then make sure you contact us or show up to the Goombay Festival this Saturday. Pictured: Shane Slam Wise from the ATL Showdown.

Quick DO IT!

ya that's what im doing bruhbruh :F

im going to hit him up again tomorrow & then link him my dunk mix june 3.. may dunk mix.

:F

pc


exciting!!!!

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« Reply #3719 on: June 01, 2011, 06:25:51 pm »
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edit: Assuming you're HB and Lance is Reverse Hypertrophy, Lance was on some straight TLDR shit in that thread.

let's just say you assumed wrong, as to who is RH.

mindfucked, amirite?









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hahaha yeah...so LBSS got it backwards...i kind of figured when i saw all the talk about jump snatching etc.