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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7725 on: January 11, 2018, 12:48:54 pm »
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just found out some random info about that ultra:

the masters guy I post in here on occasion, got 2nd overall in like 2013.

also he was on a relay team (like i'm about to do) which set the CR at 49 laps. They averaged ~5:54 min/mi pace as a team. That's batshit considering the hills. holy crap.

I think I want to do it individually next year.. I definitely think I can win that. Could be my first prize money win :D Have it in my mind for 2019.

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7726 on: January 11, 2018, 01:09:48 pm »
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someone I know and have raced with, has a nice article in a Coconut Creek magazine: (he's a beast, fast across every distance - including 100 miles)







actually want to read the rest of it.. heh! also he mentions joining strava. it really does help, best running site i've been on for sure. very simple site, but so many serious runners are on there.. provides a nice training boost imho.

also: that sun-sentinel guy never posted an article about the jingle bell jog 5k .. lame.

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7727 on: January 11, 2018, 02:22:23 pm »
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btw, just looking at Cory's splits from that boca 5k/10k & recalling my convo with FP that morning:

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your approach to races always confuses me.

why? it's literally racing, lmao.

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Why not focus all your efforts into getting the best possible 5k time, what's the point in splitting your focus into 2mile and 5k?

my main objective is always top 3.

after you hit 2 mile (~3.2k?), 5k is only 1.1 more miles away.

best possible 5k time isn't racing. If I say to myself, i'm going to try as hard as possible to stick it out for 2 miles (with the leaders), then that's racing. If I let them dust me and pace safely, then that's not racing, that's PB/time hunting, which is fine but i'd rather race. If you hang with the leaders for 2, you never know how it will turn out .. gives you the best possible chance at top 3, even if you're dead by 2 miles - because alot of people die out hard in their third mile. You never know who else is being pulled out of their comfort zone by there being more people in the pack racing for top 3, and if they get pulled out of their comfort zone, they can fade as well, especially if they were expecting an easier race.

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I feel like you would end up getting a suboptimal result for both than if you just paced yourself identically for each mile.

if you're the fastest guy there you can do that .. but if you're not the fastest, you can't do that if your goal is top 3.

even pacing is fine but there's less risk. risk is what makes or breaks you. it can make you - by allowing people who are faster than you to "pull you", adrenaline etc. It can break you because you can end up going way beyond threshold and not being able to finish strong. If keeping up with them eventually breaks you and you can't finish strong, well at least you tried - and if you tried hard enough, you'll PR something because you're running with people faster than you. If you PR something that's progress. Doesn't matter if it's the 5k itself or subsets of it (2.5 mi, 2 mi, 1.5 mi, 1 mi etc). PR is a PR, limit has been pushed.

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If you really want to PR for 2 mile why not just run 2 miles?

where in a race setting? :ninja:

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Not claiming to know better you are the board endurance specialist but just curious  :ibrunning:

nah np. it's fine.

this race is ~5:20 min/mi guys for 5k. I've done 5:24 min/mi for 1.7 on my own. So, I know I can hang with them for 2. I might have problems around 2, or I might be able to keep it going. If I have problems, then I have to gut out a good mile while fading, and still probably PR my 5k (because I already PR'd my 2 mile). If I keep it going, then I have the opportunity to crush my 5k PR considerably, while also PR'n a ton of other segments within the 5k (like 2 mi etc).

If this race was 4:50 min/mi guys for 5k, my goal would be to hang with them for 1.x (~1.25).

If it was 5:55 min/mi guys I wouldn't be talking about 2 mile PR's, 5k PR's etc. That would be a more comfortable race, and would probably be even pacing.

In a nutshell, racers make more progress than time hunters, from what i've seen with people on the local scene. Racing mentality is very different: it's considerably more aggressive. Time hunting with safe/precise pacing is fine, but there's usually much less risk. Taking huge risks can wreck you or pay off big. If you play it safe, you're always in the middle. If you take the risk, you may have the run of your life unexpectedly and perform well beyond what you thought you were capable of.

When I look at a race, i'm looking at top 3 and how fast they finish historically (for that race). Then, based on their times, i'm trying to figure out how long I should be able to keep up with them & what will I PR if I do, then what should I manage to finish the race with after that effort.

Also here's a recent example of it:

https://www.runnersworld.com/chicago-marathon/jordan-hasay-makes-a-bold-decision-be-brave-and-race

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Jordan Hasay Makes a Bold Decision: Be Brave and Race

Defying her coach’s advice, Jordan Hasay made a midrace decision to stay with the leaders at the 2017 Chicago Marathon. And her instincts to do so paid off.

In her second attempt at 26.2, she finished third overall in 2:20:57. She had a two-minute PR, and her time vaulted her to second on the all-time list of American marathon performances.

Early on, she faced a quandary. She could either stick with Tirunesh Dibaba, who has won three Olympic gold medals on the track and has a marathon best of 2:17:56, which is five minutes faster than Hasay’s previous best of 2:23:00.

Or she could hang back off the lead pack, tuck in behind a male runner going at about 2:22 pace, and try running a PR.

Hasay chose the former.

“I think it’s more important to compete,” she said. “I’ve studied the different marathons, and it’s easier, mentally and physically, to be sitting in a pack than it is to run by yourself. I just kept looking at the lead car, and our kilometers were anywhere from 3:15 to 3:20. Our projected time was 2:17 to 2:18, so I just thought, ‘Well, okay!’ ”

She wasn’t scared, even when she went through 10 kilometers in 32:29—faster than she ran the 10,000 meters on the track in 2016 at the Olympic Trials—and halfway in 1:08:50.

pace in training, race in racing! :ibrunning: :ibrunning: :ibrunning:

^^ That's also "The Kenyan Way" btw..

Anyway, can't be afraid of taking beatings etc.. The racing angle is much more like combat. Need to take beatings but stay in their valiantly, before you can dish the beatings out.

peace!

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In a nutshell, racers make more progress than time hunters, from what i've seen with people on the local scene. Racing mentality is very different: it's considerably more aggressive. Time hunting with safe/precise pacing is fine, but there's usually much less risk. Taking huge risks can wreck you or pay off big. If you play it safe, you're always in the middle. If you take the risk, you may have the run of your life unexpectedly and perform well beyond what you thought you were capable of.


Hmm. I definitely see your points but for the sake of argument I'll go against your point of making more progress with a racing mentality, I think most progress would be made during training not the actual race. I could be underestimating how much the higher intensity of a race can actually help you improve though.

Sure but, you can train all day and be horrible at competition. You have to "train competition". If you have a great training group, you can try to stimulate that environment outside of official competition, but it still falls short. Better than nothing though that's for sure. However, you just can't stimulate the pressure of real racing, just like you can't stimulate the pressure of a official basketball/ultimate game/tournament, boxing match, dunk session in front of random people/fans etc.

One can make incredible progress outside of competition, but then fall apart during the actual competition.

So training needs to extend itself to competition -> if you don't have alot of experience competing, you need to "train" it more. Once you acquire years of experience competing in your chosen field, then it becomes a different story.

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I do see your point that your potential is different day to day. I guess I was thinking more of anaerobic training where if you don't pace properly you can end up really burned out at the end and end up with a really suboptimal result.

well it's the same in a 5k race or mile etc.. if you step outside of your comfort zone, it becomes more anaerobic and you can start to tank, or you might be able to battle more than you expected in a competition environment. Adrenaline & competition stimulation (chase) is a huge difference maker.

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Which is what would happen to me conditioning during practice and burning out early because I would start too strong. Terrible feeling and you look silly for not knowing your limits. Endurance running is a completely different beast from that

Right but, the difference between training & competition:

In training, you are more likely to quit when you surpass your thresholds. In a race, you are more likely to keep going, though perhaps in a more debilitated state. For example, i've quit on myself hundreds of times in training, especially when training alone. I've never once quit on myself in a race, even when PR'n my mile in the very first mile, then holding on the last 2.1. I wanted to quit, but I didn't. The race itself & competition stimulation keeps you going. So, in such an environment, you have a few new weapons available to push your limits.

My splits for my PR 5k (18:22 official, 18:16 watch)) last year were like, 5:15, 5:55, 6:35 (just off top) something like that. That's still my best two mile EVER (11:20). So, not even 2-mile attempts on my own have beat that time, though i've come close. Nor has my 5k PR of 18:05 official (17:51 watch) beat that time either. My strategy that race was to last 1.5 with the fastest guy there. I think I made it ~1.1 or so before he started pulling away. After the race he told me I really "scared him", he didn't know who I was, he wanted to win. So I pulled him into a faster mile than he was expecting. He finished running ~16:30 IIRC. IMHO, that's a great example of it.

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So by racing you are gambling on your body to be at its best and if that ends up the case you end up with the best possible result that you couldn't have achieved by strict pacing.

nah .. body doesn't have to be at it's best. Just need to push yourself. It may or may not be at its best: the idea is to find out. If it's not, no problem, just keep trucking. If it is, you've now tapped into this new potential that was made available to you. You leveraged the "release" of a certain level of inhibition. Huge opportunity for growth, have to be ready to grab it.

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I bet its a lot more fun to race with the top runners too

yup, definitely. You learn alot about them and yourself, while it's happening. You listen to how they breathe, see their cadence, watch how they adapt/force pace changes, watch how they use the course (where they run), how they round turns etc.

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As for the 2 mile PR in a race setting.. If you were PB hunting you could go all out in the 2 mile and walk the rest of a 5k lol

Yup.. nothing wrong with that IMHO .. Ideally, you'd PB and just coast it out. To gut out the remainder of the race, is a great tool. It's not easy, it's absolutely brutal. So I take advantage of that. However, I tell myself that if I need to walk in order to get the PB, i'd do it.. Just to try and convince my body to give me more resources when I request them.

Alot of my theories lately around improving performance center only on reducing inhibition. So, that's why you see me trying to leverage competitive environments (races) as one of the biggest tools to push my limits. If my goal every time were to run a "strict race", well within what I think i'm capable of, based on training sessions & such, that would be fine but it's not aggressive enough to get to the elite level IMHO.

My racing strategies are alot like how I dunked. I loved throwing lobs high as fu*k and trying to catch them. Now my lob is someone faster than me that I have to catch.

Finally, I linked this in one of the previous posts, it's the guy who came in third place last year at this same race:

https://www.strava.com/activities/816857463

He's an "old fart" (46?) who is a local legend (probably could be competitive masters nationally). Has top 3 (many #1's) in so many races around here. He's beat me every race but that might be ending fairly soon, hopefully. I have mad respect for him, he's consistent af and he knows how to win. He has so much experience it's crazy .. can pace exactly, can do negative splits, can do whatever he wants usually. He's pretty fast. I mean he can drop 16:XX 5k's @ ~46 and beat a D1 college kid home for winter/thanksgiving break, that's damn good.

Anyway, look at his splits:



Those are racing splits. This is a guy who will pace evenly if he has #1 in the bag. So for some reason, he was "worried". He hung with the lead pack for mile 1, then fell off considerably for #2 and #3. That 5.19 was outside of his comfort zone that race, but he got sucked into it for whatever reason. He's in good enough shape to recover from it and keep battling out some nice splits, but you can see he really took a hit.

Anyway he got #3 overall in that race (17:08 @ 5:31min/mi). Had he not gone out with the leader for mile 1, he probably wouldn't have gotten #3 overall because he wouldn't have known how hard he'd have to work to overcome some of the other people in that pack.

Also look at his 2 mile.. "2nd best estimated". This is a guy who has dropped several 16:XX 5k's and that's his 2nd best estimated 2 mile.. Shows you alot. Normally he paces himself better, but that's probably because he's comfortable about his position in the race.

Here's a similar race, from 2014:



Similar first mile split, better 2nd/3rd. That 5k is even faster than the one today, much faster. So he was probably much more prepared to handle it than the traditionally slightly slower one.

So in a nutshell, if you analyze the data of successful "racers", if they aren't THE FASTEST, you see lots of fluctuations in splits etc. Someone who is easily the fastest can just go TEMPO their 5k etc.. no problem. But for everyone else, it's more of a battle usually.

That's just my perspective/experience on it so far.

peace man!!

Cory and I talked before the race (~1.5 weeks before during our training session, and leading up to it). Both of our strategies were the exact same, sub 11 for 2 miles then whatever (but battle) for the third. He executed, I didn't. He hit ~17:21 for 5k and ended up 4th overall, ~6s behind 3rd. I ended up 6th overall, ~40s behind third. His splits were basically what I had planned, but I just didn't execute it properly. He risked more up front and it paid off bigtime:



He ended up all-time PR'n his 5k with that strategy, also first time going under 11 minutes for 2 miles (which was the main initiative).

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7728 on: January 11, 2018, 05:12:23 pm »
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imagine if strava disappeared.. i'd be so bummed.


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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7729 on: January 11, 2018, 06:49:03 pm »
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track day.


01/11/2018

bw = 146
bw before bed last night = ?
soreness = calves slightly, quads moderately
aches/injuries = none
cramping = none
morning quad flexibility = tight
morning hamstring flexibility = loose
morning calf flexibility = slightly tight
feel = ok

wakeup = 05:10 AM

log:
05:30 AM: food: oatmeal with honey, almond milk, water
07:00 AM: workout: morning moderate speed, quads sore: 15 miles total: 4 miles hard w/ 1 mile jog recovery mixed in @ {5:28, 5:29, 5:44, 6:17}
10:00 AM: food: watermelon juice
10:30 AM: food: whole foods: 2 x egg and cheese muffin, sea salt pita chips and hummus, chocolate muffin, orange juice, lots of water
02:00 PM: food: 3 x banana, almond milk, water
07:30 PM: food: full rack of ribs, mac & cheese, sweet potato fries, lots of water
- needed tons of protein, was craving it
- meal didn't even fill me up, at all .. feh.


stretch:
icing:
self massage:
leg drain:
contrast showers:
naps:


workout: morning moderate speed, quads sore: 15 miles total: 4 miles hard w/ 1 mile jog recovery mixed in @ {5:28, 5:29, 5:44, 6:17}
- https://www.strava.com/activities/1351807573

good session. breaking in my new spikes (NB LD5000v5's). feel really good. actually feel a little big, which is funny considering I thought they felt small before actually running in them.







solid stuff. need to eventually turn that into several sub5's. that's the goal. already some nice improvement over last session. Also good considering my quads were toast - didn't think i'd even be able to do the workout, could feel them tightening up during the warmup, but then it became manageable.





Monthly Tracker: 2018

January (01), 2018

TODO:

Bodyweight: [(01,146),(02,146),(03,144),(04,145),(05,144),(06,145),(07,146),(08,146),(09,?),(10,145),(11,146)]
- FORMAT: (day, weight in lbs)

Total Jumps per leg: []
- FORMAT: (day, # of jumps per leg)
- per leg total:

Max SLRVJ Touch: []
- FORMAT: (day, touch height in ft'inches")
- L-SLRVJ:
- R-SLRVJ:

Total speed interval distance: []
- FORMAT: (day, total speed interval distance in meters)
- total:

Max run speed (mph)/pace (min/mi): []
- FORMAT: (day, mph max, pace max in minutes per mile)

Resting HR: []
- FORMAT: (day, minutes for this test, average hr, minimum hr)

PR's: []

Races: []
- FORMAT: (day, distance, official, watch)

Soreness: [(01,"none"),(02,"none"),(03,"none"),(04,"none"),(05,"none"),(06,"none"),(07,"calves slightly"),(08,"calves slightly"),(09,"calves slightly, quads slightly"),(10,"calves slightly, quads moderately, hamstrings slightly"),(11,"calves slightly, quads moderate")]
- FORMAT: (day, overall soreness, specifics)

Aches/Injuries: [(01,"upper back a little from yesterday (started hurting a few hours after the race) - but disappeared as the day went on (today)"),(02,"none"),(03,"left knee a little, right upper back (around 11 PM) - the thing from sunday"),(04,"none"),(05,"left knee slightly (probably from locking my knees out :D)"),(06,"back of right neck moderate (disappear when i started walking hard) - lmao"),(07,"ankles achy slightly"),(08,"calves achy"),(09,"back of right knee slightly (hamstring)"),(10,"none"),(11,"none")]
- FORMAT: (day, specifics)

Morning Quad Flexibility: [(01,"loose"),(02,"loose"),(03,"loose"),(04,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"loose"),(07,"loose"),(08,"loose"),(09,"loose"),(10,"tight"),(11,"tight")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Morning Hamstring Flexibility: [(01,"loose"),(02,"loose"),(03,"loose"),(04,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"loose"),(07,"loose"),(08,"loose"),(09,"loose"),(10,"loose"),(11,"loose")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Morning Calf Flexibility: [(01,"tight (left more-so)"),(02,"tight (left more-so)"),(03,"loose"),(04,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"slightly tight (left more-so)"),(07,"slightly tight"),(08,"tight"),(09,"loose"),(10,"tight"),(11,"slightly tight")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Cramping: []
- FORMAT: (day, symptom)

Wakeup: [(01,09:30AM,9.5),(02,06:30AM,7),(03,07:30AM,8.5),(04,05:45AM,7),(05,06:00AM,7.5),(06,09:30AM,9.5),(07,07:30AM,8),(08,05:30AM,7),(09,05:00AM,7),(10,05:30AM,7),(11,05:10AM,7)]
- FORMAT: (day, wakeup time, hours slept)

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7730 on: January 12, 2018, 06:33:59 am »
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You ran 15 miles in new spikes? That seems painful.
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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7731 on: January 12, 2018, 06:42:42 am »
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You ran 15 miles in new spikes? That seems painful.

Nah they are built for distance on the track (5k-10k etc), felt great. I definitely couldn't do that in my NB 800v3's - calves would be dead after a few miles.

Also ran 10 miles in them, switched them for my normal running shoes after that. That felt weird.

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7732 on: January 12, 2018, 03:51:36 pm »
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After my latest minor hip flexor sprain where I attempted a box jump using stairs and that quick contraction of the hip caused a little pull that it pained and the next day it was painful to go to partial squat position, which soon healed quick as it wasn't as serious of a pull, but this made me realize something and it's related to your question in some way about whether messing with an injury because of pain and therefore either help it or make it worse was innate to us or not. When I felt the pain in my hip flexor, the natural reaction like most human beings is that your hands quickly go to the point of pain, whether you twisted an ankle, hurt your shoulder the innate thing is to hold it with your hands, to protect it, which i think is what is innate to us as human beings.

But what follows is not innate but due to our understanding whether right or wrong, which in our case is that when it causes pain and our hands are already on the painful spot, it's almost impossible to take your hand away, but rather, like when we were little and when we hurt our knees we would rub it to make pain go away in the same way but with a lot more knowledge but lack of understanding of that knowledge we rub, massage to try and make pain go away, cos we don't like pain, we try and remove pain and that mixed with the understanding of myofascial release using foam rollers through the pain, causes to massage through the pain and voila make it worse or maybe make it better.

So the hand quickly moving to the point of pain seems to be an innate/natural reaction but what comes after is our understanding and I think this may be the same with animals that they would like cats lick the sore paw or something similar but they lack logical sense they use instinct and experience unlike humans we use common sense, well our understanding of common sense.

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« Last Edit: January 12, 2018, 03:53:46 pm by seifullaah73 »
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
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Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
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Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7733 on: January 12, 2018, 09:39:56 pm »
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rest


my ld5000's



my (still) new pair of rc5000v2's from way back




01/12/2018

bw = 146
bw before bed last night = ?
soreness = quads slightly
aches/injuries = none
cramping = none
morning quad flexibility = loose
morning hamstring flexibility = loose
morning calf flexibility = slightly loose
feel = tired af

wakeup = 06:30 AM (slept in)
- tomorrow has to be 5 AM !!!!!!!!!!!

log:
07:00 AM: food: oatmeal with honey, pita chips & hummus, water
10:30 AM: food: sweet green tea
11:00 AM: stretch: some quad stretches while video taping my dad's tennis lesson
01:30 PM: food: chicken fried rice, 2 x egg rolls, water w/ lemon
03:00 PM: food: philly cheese steak pita from a greek spot, fries, water
07:30 PM: food: chicken pita, fries, water
09:20 PM: leg drain: 50 minutes (didn't feel anything wtf)


stretch:
11:00 AM: stretch: some quad stretches while video taping my dad's tennis lesson

icing:
self massage:
leg drain:
09:20 PM: leg drain: 40 minutes (didn't feel anything wtf)

contrast showers:
naps:





Monthly Tracker: 2018

January (01), 2018

TODO:

Bodyweight: [(01,146),(02,146),(03,144),(04,145),(05,144),(06,145),(07,146),(08,146),(09,?),(10,145),(11,146),(12,146)]
- FORMAT: (day, weight in lbs)

Total Jumps per leg: []
- FORMAT: (day, # of jumps per leg)
- per leg total:

Max SLRVJ Touch: []
- FORMAT: (day, touch height in ft'inches")
- L-SLRVJ:
- R-SLRVJ:

Total speed interval distance: []
- FORMAT: (day, total speed interval distance in meters)
- total:

Max run speed (mph)/pace (min/mi): []
- FORMAT: (day, mph max, pace max in minutes per mile)

Resting HR: []
- FORMAT: (day, minutes for this test, average hr, minimum hr)

PR's: []

Races: []
- FORMAT: (day, distance, official, watch)

Soreness: [(01,"none"),(02,"none"),(03,"none"),(04,"none"),(05,"none"),(06,"none"),(07,"calves slightly"),(08,"calves slightly"),(09,"calves slightly, quads slightly"),(10,"calves slightly, quads moderately, hamstrings slightly"),(11,"calves slightly, quads moderate"),(12,"quads slightly")]
- FORMAT: (day, overall soreness, specifics)

Aches/Injuries: [(01,"upper back a little from yesterday (started hurting a few hours after the race) - but disappeared as the day went on (today)"),(02,"none"),(03,"left knee a little, right upper back (around 11 PM) - the thing from sunday"),(04,"none"),(05,"left knee slightly (probably from locking my knees out :D)"),(06,"back of right neck moderate (disappear when i started walking hard) - lmao"),(07,"ankles achy slightly"),(08,"calves achy"),(09,"back of right knee slightly (hamstring)"),(10,"none"),(11,"none"),(12,"none")]
- FORMAT: (day, specifics)

Morning Quad Flexibility: [(01,"loose"),(02,"loose"),(03,"loose"),(04,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"loose"),(07,"loose"),(08,"loose"),(09,"loose"),(10,"tight"),(11,"tight"),(12,"loose")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Morning Hamstring Flexibility: [(01,"loose"),(02,"loose"),(03,"loose"),(04,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"loose"),(07,"loose"),(08,"loose"),(09,"loose"),(10,"loose"),(11,"loose"),(12,"loose")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Morning Calf Flexibility: [(01,"tight (left more-so)"),(02,"tight (left more-so)"),(03,"loose"),(04,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"slightly tight (left more-so)"),(07,"slightly tight"),(08,"tight"),(09,"loose"),(10,"tight"),(11,"slightly tight"),(12,"loose")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Cramping: []
- FORMAT: (day, symptom)

Wakeup: [(01,09:30AM,9.5),(02,06:30AM,7),(03,07:30AM,8.5),(04,05:45AM,7),(05,06:00AM,7.5),(06,09:30AM,9.5),(07,07:30AM,8),(08,05:30AM,7),(09,05:00AM,7),(10,05:30AM,7),(11,05:10AM,7),(12,06:30AM,8)]
- FORMAT: (day, wakeup time, hours slept)

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7734 on: January 12, 2018, 10:04:20 pm »
+1
After my latest minor hip flexor sprain where I attempted a box jump using stairs and that quick contraction of the hip caused a little pull that it pained and the next day it was painful to go to partial squat position, which soon healed quick as it wasn't as serious of a pull, but this made me realize something and it's related to your question in some way about whether messing with an injury because of pain and therefore either help it or make it worse was innate to us or not. When I felt the pain in my hip flexor, the natural reaction like most human beings is that your hands quickly go to the point of pain, whether you twisted an ankle, hurt your shoulder the innate thing is to hold it with your hands, to protect it, which i think is what is innate to us as human beings.

But what follows is not innate but due to our understanding whether right or wrong, which in our case is that when it causes pain and our hands are already on the painful spot, it's almost impossible to take your hand away, but rather, like when we were little and when we hurt our knees we would rub it to make pain go away in the same way but with a lot more knowledge but lack of understanding of that knowledge we rub, massage to try and make pain go away, cos we don't like pain, we try and remove pain and that mixed with the understanding of myofascial release using foam rollers through the pain, causes to massage through the pain and voila make it worse or maybe make it better.

So the hand quickly moving to the point of pain seems to be an innate/natural reaction but what comes after is our understanding and I think this may be the same with animals that they would like cats lick the sore paw or something similar but they lack logical sense they use instinct and experience unlike humans we use common sense, well our understanding of common sense.

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i like that. great way to frame it. i also love the cat licking paw/dog licking paw analogy. so we too have that "licking paw" reflex but, armed with more knowledge, we intensify it, which can make things better or worse -> but our goal is always to make it better, so if it turns out worse -> complete opposite effect: that obviously implies that the extra knowledge or the application of it was used incorrectly etc.

also i was thinking the other day, what would be the equiv of "massage/myofascial release/etc", to a caveman. I wonder if it would be something like this:
- bug bites & just general itching would result in some kind of massage .. mosquitos love biting the legs/calves/ankles!
- lying/sleeping on hard surfaces, climbing trees

would be funny if like, the evolution of massage for homosapiens dated back to insect bites. i'm sure our ancestors got "lit the fu*k up" back then .. constant scratching / rubbing -> some form of massage. lool. Maybe we get "tighter" without as many insect bites or general itchiness. :ninja: :ninja: :ninja: I'm sure you could still test that idea in some parts of the world unfortunately.

i'm just joking (for the most part) but, there's all of these little evolutionary cause/effect systems that just disappear in the modern world.

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7735 on: January 13, 2018, 08:55:31 am »
+1
complete rest

anthony's pizza looks so ridiculous






01/13/2018

bw = 148 :o
bw before bed last night = 153
soreness = calves slightly
aches/injuries = right abdomen slightly
cramping = none
morning quad flexibility = loose
morning hamstring flexibility = loose
morning calf flexibility = tight
feel = ok

wakeup = 07:00 AM (slept in)

log:
08:00 AM: food: 3 x big shredded wheat with honey in almond milk, water
01:00 PM: food: anthony's: lunch sized pizza, chicken wings, focaccia bread, water
02:00 PM: leg drain: 30 minutes
03:00 PM: food: 3 x banana, almond milk
07:00 PM: food: flax oatmeal with honey, blueberries added in, one small piece of pizza, 5 chicken wings, water
07:30 PM: stretch: some light hamstring/quad stretches
08:30 PM: stretch: soleus during dishes (fuck left calf is so tight .. kinda got tighter after i "touched it" wtf is going on lmao)

stretch:
07:30 PM: stretch: some light hamstring/quad stretches
08:30 PM: stretch: soleus during dishes (fuck left calf is so tight .. kinda got tighter after i "touched it" wtf is going on lmao)

icing:
self massage:
leg drain:
02:00 PM: leg drain: 30 minutes

contrast showers:
naps:





Monthly Tracker: 2018

January (01), 2018

TODO:

Bodyweight: [(01,146),(02,146),(03,144),(04,145),(05,144),(06,145),(07,146),(08,146),(09,?),(10,145),(11,146),(12,146),(13,148)]
- FORMAT: (day, weight in lbs)

Total Jumps per leg: []
- FORMAT: (day, # of jumps per leg)
- per leg total:

Max SLRVJ Touch: []
- FORMAT: (day, touch height in ft'inches")
- L-SLRVJ:
- R-SLRVJ:

Total speed interval distance: []
- FORMAT: (day, total speed interval distance in meters)
- total:

Max run speed (mph)/pace (min/mi): []
- FORMAT: (day, mph max, pace max in minutes per mile)

Resting HR: []
- FORMAT: (day, minutes for this test, average hr, minimum hr)

PR's: []

Races: []
- FORMAT: (day, distance, official, watch)

Soreness: [(01,"none"),(02,"none"),(03,"none"),(04,"none"),(05,"none"),(06,"none"),(07,"calves slightly"),(08,"calves slightly"),(09,"calves slightly, quads slightly"),(10,"calves slightly, quads moderately, hamstrings slightly"),(11,"calves slightly, quads moderate"),(12,"quads slightly"),(13,"calves slightly")]
- FORMAT: (day, overall soreness, specifics)

Aches/Injuries: [(01,"upper back a little from yesterday (started hurting a few hours after the race) - but disappeared as the day went on (today)"),(02,"none"),(03,"left knee a little, right upper back (around 11 PM) - the thing from sunday"),(04,"none"),(05,"left knee slightly (probably from locking my knees out :D)"),(06,"back of right neck moderate (disappear when i started walking hard) - lmao"),(07,"ankles achy slightly"),(08,"calves achy"),(09,"back of right knee slightly (hamstring)"),(10,"none"),(11,"none"),(12,"none"),(13,"right abdomen slightly")]
- FORMAT: (day, specifics)

Morning Quad Flexibility: [(01,"loose"),(02,"loose"),(03,"loose"),(04,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"loose"),(07,"loose"),(08,"loose"),(09,"loose"),(10,"tight"),(11,"tight"),(12,"loose"),(13,"loose")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Morning Hamstring Flexibility: [(01,"loose"),(02,"loose"),(03,"loose"),(04,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"loose"),(07,"loose"),(08,"loose"),(09,"loose"),(10,"loose"),(11,"loose"),(12,"loose"),(13,"loose")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Morning Calf Flexibility: [(01,"tight (left more-so)"),(02,"tight (left more-so)"),(03,"loose"),(04,"loose"),(05,"loose"),(06,"slightly tight (left more-so)"),(07,"slightly tight"),(08,"tight"),(09,"loose"),(10,"tight"),(11,"slightly tight"),(12,"loose"),(13,"tight")]
- FORMAT: (day, general flexibility)

Cramping: []
- FORMAT: (day, symptom)

Wakeup: [(01,09:30AM,9.5),(02,06:30AM,7),(03,07:30AM,8.5),(04,05:45AM,7),(05,06:00AM,7.5),(06,09:30AM,9.5),(07,07:30AM,8),(08,05:30AM,7),(09,05:00AM,7),(10,05:30AM,7),(11,05:10AM,7),(12,06:30AM,8),(13,07:00AM,8)]
- FORMAT: (day, wakeup time, hours slept)

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7736 on: January 13, 2018, 12:35:32 pm »
+1
In regards to how the world is becoming modern day by day, technology advancing day by day, more chemicals being made, food becoming less natural, before man used to move around a lot but now since technology has evolved, everything, well nearly everything is within our reach, I'm sorry to say it but we have become less accustomed to making a lot of effort, as comfort and ease of transport has increased the effort decreases and this would lead to a lot of sitting around a lot of times, instead of a couple of centuries ago, when transport was done by foot, if you look at the other countries, which eat more healthy, natural foods and they have to travel a lot. I think this is where injuries happen when humans move around less then usual then the muscles adapt and the next generation would be adapted to that situation and therefore can lead to more need for massages and tight muscles. My 2 cents.
Warm up drills
   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
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Measuring reminder:
5 toe to heel steps = 148cm
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Arm also aids the legs in driving it down with power - seifullaah73

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http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/my-journey-to-hypertrophy/

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Re: ADARQ's journal
« Reply #7737 on: January 13, 2018, 08:01:43 pm »
+1
In regards to how the world is becoming modern day by day, technology advancing day by day, more chemicals being made, food becoming less natural, before man used to move around a lot but now since technology has evolved, everything, well nearly everything is within our reach, I'm sorry to say it but we have become less accustomed to making a lot of effort, as comfort and ease of transport has increased the effort decreases and this would lead to a lot of sitting around a lot of times, instead of a couple of centuries ago, when transport was done by foot, if you look at the other countries, which eat more healthy, natural foods and they have to travel a lot. I think this is where injuries happen when humans move around less then usual then the muscles adapt and the next generation would be adapted to that situation and therefore can lead to more need for massages and tight muscles. My 2 cents.

ya the key factor you mentioned: "move around less". It's interesting how much less we move around. Compare that to say, children in Kenya who walk/run 3-6 miles to school every day, stuff like that. In the US, you walk 100 ft to your bus stop, then get carried there. This has it's benefits and drawbacks, more benefits than drawbacks IMHO - you can always add supplemental movement (exercise) into the equation. But it just is interesting how much less we move in general, and how much less certain populations/nations move in comparison to each other.

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« Reply #7738 on: January 13, 2018, 08:13:01 pm »
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The naples half tomorrow (~2 hours away?) has prize money for age groups, that's awesome. $100 per age group and $500 if you break the course record. Here are the CR's:

http://napleshalfmarathon.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/record-ndn-half.pdf



need to run that one year.

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« Reply #7739 on: January 13, 2018, 08:14:38 pm »
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ultra relay prep for tomorrow!

none, just try to survive. Have gatorade, water, lunch, bananas, etc. eheh.

going to be very cold the entire time, which is kind of cool. should be interesting.

6 hour relay race: each member runs 1.24 miles then rests until the other 3 members complete their laps, non-stop as many times as possible within 6 hours.

should be nuts.. need to wakeup at 4 AM, and be there by 5 AM. Race starts at 6 AM. HEH!!!!!!

feel good other than my left calf/hamstring insertion, a bit tight. lame.