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chasing athleticism -- W10D7
« Reply #1965 on: July 12, 2014, 10:32:53 pm »
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BW:83.5kg/184.09lb

Lost a pound, looking a lot leaner but not lean enough. I need a rest day, so this will have to be it. But i'll still try to do some fasted walking through the day. Aiming to fast about 22-23 hours today, or around there abouts.

It's funny, if you asked me where i'd need to weigh to be lean, i wuda guessed 82.5kg. Now that's starting to look pretty reasonable since at 83.5kg i'm not quite there but I imagine losing a kilo should get me close to single digit bodyfat. Though that's not really remarkable since one always thinks he's one kilo away from being lean. #Fatproblems.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2014, 10:36:19 pm by entropy »
Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat

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chasing athleticism -- W1D1
« Reply #1966 on: July 14, 2014, 12:34:09 am »
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BW: 82.6kg / 182.1lb

Fasted Duration: 24+hr


(for reference the left most point is 195lb and today's is of course 182)

lol so I got through my pre-holiday cut intact, i can't believe i've dropped ~6kg/13lb in just under 3 weeks. This time though, i held on to my muscle and strength for the most part, even building my upper body (which admittedly i had grossly neglected).

the bad news is that i'm still not lean enough :( i prob need to diet another week or so lol. we'll see how it goes.

Training
FS 1x125, 1x130
BS 1x120, 1x127.5, 1x132.5, 0Fx137.5, 1x135B, 1x137.5B, 5x120, 5x117.5, 5x115
BP 3x5x80
CND - Sprint Ints - 6x(25s on, 23s off)
AbCrunch - 15x75kg (PR; lol, these fucks are so easy for me, i need a better ab exercise and yet i know of none that work as well as these for blowing up abz)
AbPD - 2x20x37.5kg

Squat notes:
I decided to do just one squat session, which turned out to be fasted as it happens, so i had my work cut out for me. I managed a 130 fs which was a ME effort. I wanted a 137.5kg bs, though i kinda knew i was only good for 135, went for it and of course failed it. Used a belt to do shitty reps of 135 and 137.5 in consolation.

Upper notes:
Omg, that BP was deathly hard, all RPE 10 sets :o
« Last Edit: July 14, 2014, 08:19:27 am by entropy »
Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1967 on: July 25, 2014, 02:57:15 am »
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No updates for over a week?
Where are you entropy
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1968 on: July 25, 2014, 04:01:56 am »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1969 on: July 25, 2014, 08:51:54 pm »
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No updates for over a week?
Where are you entropy

Fair. So I went to USA for the first time and even though I had kept my expectations somewhat low, I fell in love (as I tend to do lol) with the place, life and ppl. Now i'm even thinking i should move there and wish I had done that a long time ago.

In the way of training, after i left, i did some long walks around the hills in california. Found my calves surprisingly sore for the first time from just walks lol. Then eventually my dumb ass got a pair of shoes and i was able to do some running - mostly hill sprints lol, and then jogging downhill. Man it was amazing.

There was a few days in hotel gyms i messed around with dbs too, and did some chinups that was about the total of my training while there.

I fasted around 24hrs everyday, which im still not sure was a good idea or bad but it allowed me to look forward to a nice dinner every night. it allowed me to get somewhat leaner, although not much, cause the ppl i was eating with didn't have much of an appetite, so i ended up eating 2x my portions :/ all good, food was amazing.

Now we start from scratch, i weighed in at 82.5kg, not quite ripped as i hoped :/ think i will finish cutting down to just under 80kg/170lb and while doing so, work up to some modest lifts like a 130kg fronty and a 140kg backy. As usual, my gains are cinderalla like, i lose everything at the slightest provocation.

and i need to get the fuck out of this country, as much as i love it, i wasted my 20s in the wrong place..
Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat

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« Reply #1970 on: July 26, 2014, 02:20:16 am »
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BW: 82.5kg
Fasted duration: ~24hrs (finished meal at 1935)

My first proper gym session in about 2 weeks worth of training sessions (5 workouts).

Training
FBS 1x120
BS 5x110
WCU 2x95, 2x100, 1x105, 5x90
CND - Sprint intervals - 6x(25s on, 22s off)

CND - TM 5km in 65 mins

Squat notes:
So my 1 rep max right now is about 120kg on squats, pretty challenging and technically imperfect so my technical max is prob like 110kg or something? Idk.

Upper notes:
I bench rel soon anyway so decided to just do chins cause i wont do them til friday. Feels ok so far.

Conditioning notes:
Sprint intervals - fasted, right now these are kicking my ass, i will repeat the same params until i'm much fitter..

fasted TM in my last session, not bad, guess this is easy cause im lighter now..

So i'm resuming cutting, well, technically i never ceased it, but i've decided to resume it aplomb because i wanna get ripped and stay it. Also making a conscious decision to keep running no matter what, i dont care if it limits my athleticism/strength/squatting - who cares, would rather be healthy and fit than strong and unfit/unhealthy.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2014, 07:40:07 am by entropy »
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chasing athleticism -- W1D2
« Reply #1971 on: July 26, 2014, 08:47:51 pm »
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Bodyweight: 82kg/180.9lb

I'm due for a whoosh but this wasn't it. The fat around my hips feels squishy, so i'm expecting one soon. Will do fasted walking etc today.

Training
CND - TM 3.2km in 45 mins
« Last Edit: July 27, 2014, 12:27:53 am by entropy »
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« Reply #1972 on: July 28, 2014, 06:24:50 am »
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Fasted duration: 24hrs

Training
FBS 0Fx120
BP 2x80, 3x5x75
CND - TM 6km in 60 mins (ran 30 mins, walked 30 mins)

Squat notes:
Blah

I'm leaning out but the leaner i get, the fatter i think i am. Serves me right for being careless, i shud have never let my bw drift past 82.5kg. Will not repeat that mistake again..

ps. im so fkn hungry :( i have eaten like 3 small meals in 3 days. That's ridiculous right. Oh well, i'll  put up with it for another 7 days to make a total of 10. Not willing to cut any longer than that. This is torture.   After that i'll maintain my bodyweight for 2 weeks.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2014, 06:44:24 am by entropy »
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« Reply #1973 on: July 28, 2014, 06:27:13 pm »
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Fasted Duration: 24hrs (to be updated)
BW: 80.75kg/178.02lb



A milestone achieved of getting under 180lb. Still fat but starting to look leaner. Not too excited abou the scale movement cause the only carbs i had yesterday was 350mL of lowfat milk.. soo.. that means i'm just losing some water weight, prob, from lowcarbing yesterday. Even so, i was due for a woosh and it's possible i just had one? Doesn't matter, one day at a time.

Training
CND - Fasted TM - 9km

My caffeine intake atm is 800mg a day. I think i could go to 1000mg or more, but i might have to start drinking coffee. worried though that drinking coffee might disrupt fasting lol. I really wish i had some synephrine left over too :( I mean i could keep using pills just they'll run out super quick if i am taking 6 a day. Usually a 100 pill bottle would last  me over 6 months. I could burn through that in just over 2 weeks at 6/day. But caffeine is cheap so i cud just order some more i guess. idk. it's not available commonly here in oz so i'd have to order from US as usual, which is a hassle. why is hassle spelt like that but hustle has a t. stupid language.

Anway here is to getting ripped in 10 days (7 days left!).
« Last Edit: July 29, 2014, 06:32:33 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1974 on: July 28, 2014, 09:03:29 pm »
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I drink coffee whilst fasting (espresso only). Haven't had any issues. Supresses appetite which is great. Not sure if caffeine tabs do that though.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1975 on: July 28, 2014, 09:08:44 pm »
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I drink coffee whilst fasting (espresso only). Haven't had any issues. Supresses appetite which is great. Not sure if caffeine tabs do that though.

ive gone back and forth on this. just poured out a mug of green tea i made into the sink this morning lol. I think i'll stick with legit fasted rather than risk upsetting any benefit of pure fasting by taking tea/coffee. Not saying that's actually the case but it's only 7 days, might as well suck it up and just deal with hunger. also caffeine pills are also supposed to supress appetite. but there is a difference btw appetite and hunger, and im dealing with the latter atm. appetite in general is ok, no ravenous gorging while im mentally dialled in.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1976 on: July 28, 2014, 09:24:55 pm »
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I drink coffee whilst fasting (espresso only). Haven't had any issues. Supresses appetite which is great. Not sure if caffeine tabs do that though.

ive gone back and forth on this. just poured out a mug of green tea i made into the sink this morning lol. I think i'll stick with legit fasted rather than risk upsetting any benefit of pure fasting by taking tea/coffee. Not saying that's actually the case but it's only 7 days, might as well suck it up and just deal with hunger. also caffeine pills are also supposed to supress appetite. but there is a difference btw appetite and hunger, and im dealing with the latter atm. appetite in general is ok, no ravenous gorging while im mentally dialled in.

Prob best to stick with what you know.
I've never done the kind of fasting you're doing. Longest single fast is 24 hours but I normally just do the 16 hours. If I go no/low carb I'm ready to kill someone by about day 4.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1977 on: July 28, 2014, 11:48:45 pm »
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I'm mirin your willpower/devotion to your diet.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1978 on: July 29, 2014, 03:39:09 am »
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What I don't get with fasting is - aren't you going to lose a ton of muscle?  Also, aren't you going to give your body the signal of "store more fat" the next time you start eating normally?

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #1979 on: July 29, 2014, 03:49:17 am »
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What I don't get with fasting is - aren't you going to lose a ton of muscle?  Also, aren't you going to give your body the signal of "store more fat" the next time you start eating normally?

it depends on a lot of things. if you're fasting with a higher bodyfat (over 15%) it makes no difference what you do diet wise til you're leaner, just pick the easiest shit that works for you. but if you are approaching single digits or lower, then you need a lot of protein regardless of diet to preserve muscle.

the signal thing sounds bs btw. there are things called set points, you can reset them. but yeah, it's tricky, you have to work hard to maintain a (much lower) bodyweight. eventually it becomes normal though.

 how fasting fits into this, idk, it's actually claimed fasting is more muscle sparing, somehow. i dont know or understand the mechanism they propose for that but it's interesting to me all the same. i have been fasting for about 3 weeks now and eating not much protein, i should have a lot more muscle and strength loss than i have observed so far, so im actually impressed. then again, im still quite fat so idk if that counts for much lol.

in future cuts, i think i will do a lot of conditioning just prior to a cut, to get rid of visceral fat. i have a feeling it makes cuts all that much longer because you eventually have to burn that fat off too while you could easily burn it off even if you're not cutting just by doing a good amount of cardio. for me, that means basketball, a few times a week.

also, ive decided im prob gonna do another cut after my diet break. just get down to 6-8% and get rid of all that stubborn fat for good.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2014, 03:55:30 am by entropy »
Goals: Cutting to 6-8% bodyfat