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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2130 on: September 05, 2014, 01:04:34 pm »
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one does not necessarily care about bf% when one is cutting. that's my point. YOU care, and i was suggesting that maybe you could find something else to care about or use as the major benchmark, for the reasons i described.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2131 on: September 05, 2014, 01:23:52 pm »
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Left unsaid is that as you put on lean muscle you should become more efficient at burning fat as well, at least, thats been my experience. 
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« Reply #2132 on: September 05, 2014, 01:44:10 pm »
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Shoutout to the makki di roti haha!
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2133 on: September 05, 2014, 09:50:52 pm »
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one does not necessarily care about bf% when one is cutting. that's my point. YOU care, and i was suggesting that maybe you could find something else to care about or use as the major benchmark, for the reasons i described.

lol i only care about IN SO MUCH as ITS A GOAL. Not like i know what my current bf is, or what it was a week ago. It's just the target im working towards. One needs a target. On the page though i define it as a bodyweight goal (74kg for this cycle, then perhaps revised to 73.5kg and finally 73kg) but i know that bodyweight is just a reading on teh scale, what im really interested in, is carrying the minimal amount of bodyfat practically as possible so i can do an efficient mass/strength/power gain phase afterwards. I was saving a really good greg nichols article to put up later but there might never be a better time than this. Everyone shud read it.

Please consider the environment and save the but you're not fat, you're just dismorphic knejerk posts. I quote L.McD on this:
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Even at 10% bodyfat, i'm not happy. I know I'm lean, healthy, all of that. My doctor is thrilled and thinks I'm nuts to want to be leaner; so does my mom. They may not be wrong. But at 10% bodyfat, I'm simply not satisfied. The more athletic readers know what i'm talking about. Other readers may just think i'm nuts and obsessive. They may not be wrong either.

except i'm not even 10% yet. I probably would be satisfied with it if i was though.

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« Reply #2134 on: September 05, 2014, 09:53:47 pm »
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Day #8 Food and Activity log
Bodyweight: 76.55kg/168.76lb
Fasted duration: 13hr (TBU)
Fast broken: 2110
Fast started: 2150
Total steps: 6725 (fasted), 7255 total



^ prob the biggest post refeed rebound i've ever had! or maybe it just seems that way and i haven't really observed very carefully. idk, cool!

You get leaner just before a refeed and the next day you're much fatter again :( I bet this stops happening when you're lean enough that you'll look fairly lean even after a refeed. oh well. Weathers a bit iffy today, was planning on going for a run/walk and getting some glycogen depletion in, not really super important with my 24hr fasts but would have been nice. Also half considering going to the basketball court and doing some dunks and practice skills but not sure i can be bothered

Day's Eats


and the whole thing literally on a plate:


(as usual not logging zero calorie foods like sagh or salsa)

Activity log:
I did go down to the basketball court, was there about an hour and half. Did a bunch of dunks and just practiced ball handling etc.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 10:55:54 am by entropy »
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2135 on: September 05, 2014, 10:44:32 pm »
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That article is spot on man. Better to stay athletic and gain muscle size/weight slowly than let yourself go and be stuck on repeat forever. That's why I'm always concerned with my weight even on a strength block. I'd rather only put 15-20lbs on my squat and stay lean as the end result (vertical jump) is more important than the weight on the bar.
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« Reply #2136 on: September 06, 2014, 10:41:20 pm »
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Day #9 Food and Activity log
Bodyweight: 75.6kg/166.7lb
Fasted duration: 24+hr
Fast broken: 2206
Fast started: 2230
Total steps: 7000 fasted, 7677 total



Ok there we go, bodyweight is renormalising :) My goal is to get to ≤74kg by friday morning (usually my lightest day). Of course if i get there before that i won't mind either lol. But the idea is i want to be in a fighting chance of attaining 73kg by end of this 3 week cycle, and the only way that's possible is if i'm real close to 74kg by end of week 2.

Just a note - I ABSOLUTELY NAILED yesterday's diet and training! I woke up today feeling fresh, HOT (as in TEMP = GOOD, ELEVATED METABOLISM) and feeling good. So i'm just going to try to repeat exactly what i eat yesterday EVERYDAY and see if it keeps working. Maybe that extra half scoop of protein helped? Or maybe it was the 2 giant sized eggs i ate (800g dozen as opposed to usual 700g dozen?). Idk. Lets stick with it! I may also be adapted to ketosis now - and i may possibly be IN ketosis too. Who knows, it doesn't matter, i'm gonna ride this out :)

Day's Eats


Activity log:
Did some slow incline treadmill walking. Heard that's what hte old school bodybuilders used to get lean back in the day. It was aight i guess. I did about 35 mins in 2 sessions of 25 and 10.

Injury log:
This is embrassing. I tweaked the fuck out of my back (muscle) while tying my shoelace yesterday. Hurts a lot :/ It was a combo of wearing tights awkwardly and bending over on the chair to put on my shoes. Sucks!
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« Reply #2137 on: September 07, 2014, 11:53:45 pm »
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Day #10 Food and Activity log (of 21 days)
Bodyweight: 75.1kg/165.6lb (LPR)
Waist: 30.5" (PR)
Fasted duration: 21hr
Fast broken: 1930
Fast started: 2230
Total steps: 5600 fasted, 7255 total



^ New bodyweight LPR! I also look visually leaner, i wont say 10% but edging closer to it. Maybe i'm under 12% now?  Who knows. This cut has been SO easy so far. I wonder when it will get difficult. Maybe because i'm so focused on gettng it right, it has gone perfectly.  By the way while that's the first time i've got a waist measurement in the 30.0"s, i'm not putting much faith in it because waist measurements are kinda useless at the best of times, contigent on how tight the tape was etc. I put more faith in skinfolds and jiggle test which tells me there has def been an overnight change which is worth most to me.

Activity log:
1hr fasted slow incline TM

Training:
FBS 3x100
FS 1x107.5 (injury)
BS 6x102.5, 6x105
BP 3x77.5
WCU 2x97.5, 3x95
CRL 5x37.5, 5x42.5

Squat notes:
So yesterday i hurt my back while tying shoe laces. I wasn't sure to even train today but warmups felt aight and it wasn't bothering the injury. My warmup sets with 100kg felt good and looked good, piston like. I thought there is no harm going for a FS triple of 107.5kg. And on the first rep, it broke my back :( Prob lay off front squats til im healed up.

Day's Eats:


Ate mo protein to help heal my back injury.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2138 on: September 08, 2014, 11:48:12 am »
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man i wasn't saying, "but you're not fat, you're just dysmorphic." i was saying, well exactly what i said: your bf% calculations are unreliable so why not pick a different target. like: clearly defined six pack even in indirect light.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2139 on: September 08, 2014, 08:41:52 pm »
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man i wasn't saying, "but you're not fat, you're just dysmorphic." i was saying, well exactly what i said: your bf% calculations are unreliable so why not pick a different target. like: clearly defined six pack even in indirect light.

I think for Entropy it would be clearly defined buttocks since that's where he stores most of his fat  :trolldance:
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2140 on: September 08, 2014, 10:32:16 pm »
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man i wasn't saying, "but you're not fat, you're just dysmorphic." i was saying, well exactly what i said: your bf% calculations are unreliable so why not pick a different target. like: clearly defined six pack even in indirect light.

Sorry, i get ya now. Just been a bit reflexively defensive lately having to constantly reassert my position. I agree with you though. I think implicitly I always knew it would be some objective measure I would be able to confirm as opposed to an ethereal fictitious bodyfat% measurement. Think jiggle test is the way to go. Thanks.

man i wasn't saying, "but you're not fat, you're just dysmorphic." i was saying, well exactly what i said: your bf% calculations are unreliable so why not pick a different target. like: clearly defined six pack even in indirect light.

I think for Entropy it would be clearly defined buttocks since that's where he stores most of his fat  :trolldance:

No joke, I think that might even be the best suggestion i've come across. I expect to get my slimguide calipers next week from Amazon, just before my birthday. So from then on, i'll be taking daily skinfold mm measuments of chest, abs, lower back, hips AND butt. I will log the sum of these in my training log. But the one that really matters is the last one - i just have to figure out a way to reliably and consistently measure it because that's key. Haha. Ofc once i've got the measurement technique down and my bodyweight is stable, i wont need to take daily measurements but i'll still take them on workout days or whatever.  Maybe the last workout of the week.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2141 on: September 08, 2014, 11:13:56 pm »
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get the skinfold site tatted on.  :P
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2142 on: September 08, 2014, 11:38:39 pm »
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Day #11 Food and Activity log (of 21 days)
Bodyweight: 74.65kg/164.6lb (LPR)
Fasted duration: 24hr
Fast broken: 2230
Fast started: 2245
Total steps: 5200 fasted



^ New bodyweight LPR again! I'm on a nice roll there. Skinfolds diminished again, there is less and less to pinch every day. So for some reason i've decided upon the goal of 161lb by the end of this 21 day cycle. I may not achieve it, or what's more, i may be satisfied with a bodyweight much higher than that, but we'll just see how it goes.  Also day 11 is just past the halfway point!

Activity log:
1hr slow incline TM walk (2.5km/hr @ 8 inc)

Day's Eats:


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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #2143 on: September 10, 2014, 02:47:25 am »
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Day #12 Food and Activity log (of 21 days)
Fasted duration: 13hr
Fast broken: 1300
Fast started:
Total steps:

Training
FBS 3x100
BS 2x110, 2x117.5, 1x120B
OHP 3x55, 3x57.5, 3x54.5
ROW 2x8x60 (PR)

Squat notes:
I regret the recent incline treadmill. It made squatting a lot harder that it ought to be. In saying that, at my level of bodyfat, i really have no business doing fasted cardio like that anyway because i shud be saving it for later when it comes to burning stubborn bodyfat which is NOT an issue right now, i'm just dealing with ordinary, plain vanilla fat, not stubborn fat! So will make the correction for next week - tuesday will be a legit rest day to prepare for optimum performance on weds heavy squats.

I'm not 100% sure but i may have been able to do a third rep with 117.5kg - but -- i had to hold back in case it led to injury since i'm still healing my back. But the 120kg with the belt genuinely felt hard so idk, maybe it took a lot out of me just doing the double. So we'll never know.

Activity log:
20 min fasted slow incline TM walk (2.5km/hr @ 8 inc)
Basketball game

Day's Eats:


Day was going perfectly til postgame, went to hungry jacks. I ordered a triple cheeseburger with the cheese on the side but the guy at the counter was a noob and it took him 5 minutes to just punch it in. and of course when i checked it was the full works burger w/ cheese so whatever. but it meant i went over 1000kcal. And from there since i had the already messed up shrug mindset, i ate some extra M&ms and chips when i got home. And i didnt log (indian) scrambled eggs because have no idea of the macros lol. Anyway bad diet day, will make up for it tmr..

Basketball game notes:
I didn't attempt any FGs bc i saw much better opportunities for team mates. i had  3-4 assists and shud have had more but guys cudnt finish easy layups :( also plenty of boards. I played the full first half which is remarkable given my fitness concerns spread all over my logs the last 3 weeks lol. But something clicked today, my fitness was decent, i had the motor to play 3/4 of the game. My only regret i, i didn't do enough for us to win, we drew the game. I pulled down a defensive board with like 15 seconds left on the clock, threw an outlet pass to our guard who was 2/3 of the way down the court. And  i can't remember what happened next. he either fumbled it, or it was stolen or something. We should really practice those passed. I can do a lot better firing those long passes in but i have to be conservative because im not sure if my team mates can receive one at full stretch yet. so work in progress.  signs are good though.
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« Reply #2144 on: September 10, 2014, 10:58:47 pm »
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Training:

Activity log:


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