Author Topic: chasing athleticism (Read 933965 times)

maxent · « **Reply #2970 on:** June 30, 2016, 09:31:19 pm »

Dunks ~ 15
Shitload of 3pt shots
Game of 21
Full court game

BW: ??

Notes:
Well dunking makes no sense to me. I started off barely landing 1hand dunk ... missing most of them. And then something clicks later down the workout and i can dunk pretty good. If i was a pessimistic sort, i prob wud have gone home after that disappointing starting. So weird. THe game was ok, im just getting frustrated with being underperforming because im eternally on a caloric deficit or low carbing or both. We won the game btw but i missed 3 FGs, one was a putback (not dunk just a tip) which rolled out, then i had a backcourt steal and layup fastbreak, which i somehow missed, shud have gone for the dunk but i never think to, went with the safe layup and i have no idea how that didnt go in. Had a 3pt attempt which just rimmed out. Lol. Luckily i got some clutch blocks to save the game at the end, otherwise it was a shitshow performance from me. My friends joke that im an elite rim protector but when im on, i actually do a good job protecting the rim..

notes to self, after day 21, end this stupid cutting and just maintain <80kg while getting stronger, fitter, etc.

I shot more 3s yesterday than i have in the entire 12 months before. Im a better 3pt shooter than i thought. But during the 21 game, i missed almost every single atttempt where the shot was off the dribble. However, catch and shoot and i hit like 3 in a row. So i need to practice shooting with a guy in my face (easier said than done). my mechanics change too much.

but im super excited to reinvent myself as a shooter and defense specialist. That's my game.

maxent · « **Reply #2971 on:** June 30, 2016, 09:34:11 pm »

BW:80.2kg / 176.81lb (LPR; new scales)

This is day 5 and im already showing decent body recomposition ... abs and stuff are starting to show in the mirror in the mornings .. so that's good. But im still fat as fuck. Hopefully by day 10 and 21 im in a LOT better state. Then i can end this cut.

maxent · « **Reply #2972 on:** June 30, 2016, 09:39:16 pm »

I forgot to mention, the first person who saw me after a while said "youve got so skinny!", i shrugged it off. Then by the time the 9th person told me the same thing, i think i need to do something bout this shit.. lol. hopefully after i come off this cut, go to maintenance calories i'll look bigger .. and then there is creatine gains down the road too. Maybe. But it does motivate me to kill it in the weight room more than ever.. i need to look bigger so i get the first 'you look huge' comment since i gained 30kg back in 2009.

Coges · « **Reply #2973 on:** June 30, 2016, 10:23:18 pm »

Mate how much do the skinny comments kill you. I'm the same. Lost 3-4kgs and people start commenting. Only problem is to look huge in clothing I need to be 100+ no one has ever called me huge before and I've been as high as 98

Mikey · « **Reply #2974 on:** June 30, 2016, 11:33:27 pm »

Quote from: Coges on June 30, 2016, 10:23:18 pm

Mate how much do the skinny comments kill you. I'm the same. Lost 3-4kgs and people start commenting. Only problem is to look huge in clothing I need to be 100+ no one has ever called me huge before and I've been as high as 98

From 18-13% bodyfat when you cut you just look smaller especially in clothes. I've had the same thing happen to me. When I'm losing weight people say I look smaller

Coges · « **Reply #2975 on:** July 01, 2016, 02:43:52 am »

Yep it's hard to avoid when you're losing weight. As someone who has a skinny fat complex already it certainly doesn't help.

Raptor · « **Reply #2976 on:** July 01, 2016, 02:56:59 am »

What I never understood is people having to comment on how you look. How about you shut the fuck up and mind your own business? How's that for an idea? So, when someone says anything about how I look now, I tell him that. Doesn't matter who he is.

maxent · « **Reply #2977 on:** July 01, 2016, 03:26:32 am »

Quote from: Coges on June 30, 2016, 10:23:18 pm

Mate how much do the skinny comments kill you. I'm the same. Lost 3-4kgs and people start commenting. Only problem is to look huge in clothing I need to be 100+ no one has ever called me huge before and I've been as high as 98

i know

we have to remember everyone looks "smaller" or "small" when cutting . muscles aren't as filled with glycogen, they get deflated and look smaller. We can hope that once you stop cutting and everything fills back with carbs you look bigger...

Quote from: Mutumbo000 on June 30, 2016, 11:33:27 pm

From 18-13% bodyfat when you cut you just look smaller especially in clothes. I've had the same thing happen to me. When I'm losing weight people say I look smaller

true. someone in shape looks bigger without clothes than with. little consolation when 99.99% of the time you're wearing clothes though.

Quote from: Raptor on July 01, 2016, 02:56:59 am

What I never understood is people having to comment on how you look. How about you shut the fuck up and mind your own business? How's that for an idea? So, when someone says anything about how I look now, I tell him that. Doesn't matter who he is.

i dont take it as a slight .. just ppl sharing their observations. like i said, one person says it you can go whatever. but when a dozen ppl say it, you prob shud listen and revise

Coges · « **Reply #2978 on:** July 01, 2016, 06:34:07 am »

It is weird how people will gladly tell you how skinny you are (always with the tall and skinny) yet they would never say the same thing to a fat person. Just imagine that "hey, you're so short and fat. how's that working out for you?"

Leonel · « **Reply #2979 on:** July 01, 2016, 06:42:29 am »

That's actually true. I mean for someone who really struggles with being tall and skinny it's also pretty hurtful when you comment on it all the time yet in our society it's not appropriate to tell someone when he is really fat. I mean where's the logic in that.

Raptor · « **Reply #2980 on:** July 01, 2016, 06:57:15 am »

I've had a bunch of people tell me "I'm doing well" meaning "you got fat". Some even pointed to my belly. Why can't people just shut the fuck up and mind their own business. I personally do comments like these ONLY when they are positive like "hey you look bigger now" (knowing that the guy wants to look bigger), for example. But if someone gets fat or gets skinny due to factors in his life, I never ever comment. It's not my place to comment on that.

At worst, if the person brings it up saying "I'm depressed and I think I lost a lot of muscle" I'll be like "yeah you seem a big smaller, but not that much" and stuff like that.

T0ddday · « **Reply #2981 on:** July 01, 2016, 03:24:51 pm »

Quote from: Coges on July 01, 2016, 06:34:07 am

It is weird how people will gladly tell you how skinny you are (always with the tall and skinny) yet they would never say the same thing to a fat person. Just imagine that "hey, you're so short and fat. how's that working out for you?"

Quote from: Leonel on July 01, 2016, 06:42:29 am

That's actually true. I mean for someone who really struggles with being tall and skinny it's also pretty hurtful when you comment on it all the time yet in our society it's not appropriate to tell someone when he is really fat. I mean where's the logic in that.

The logic comes from the fact that it's better in pretty much every aspect of life (jobs, women, money, etc) to be tall. And w the exception of a few athletes with musclerexia being skinny is usually thought of a generally good thing that comes with the territory.

So someone might ask how is your good fortune working out for you? This is completely logical. It's the same reason we don't pry into why someone is poor but we comment on people who made it as a positive thing... There is a guy I train and I always assumed was an average upper/middle class (by LA standards) guy... He showed up to the gym Sunday in a blue lambo and I definitely asked him how he came up on that - turns out he was in Google early... I wouldn't have asked about his struggles if he showed up in a bucket...

I get y'all don't like being skinny... But you can't expect society to assume your strange particular hangup when most people want what you have. I always want to be smaller and less muscular - so when I change and someone says "whoa your traps are huge" or someone refers to me as the "big guy" or says "your amazingly fast for a big guy" I cringe cause I would rather see myself as a smaller speed athlete... This is why I haven't done upper body training in years! However, since I realize this is generally thought to be a good thing I understand where they are coming from...

Reminds me of a time recently when I was playing ball and after the game there was an impromptu dunk contest... I was jumping really well and threw down one of my cleaner windmills... A 22 year old guy asked me for my age and when I told him I was in my thirties he said "OMG you must have absolutely flew in your younger days!" For some reason this made me so mad... But I just smiled and said thanks 😐.

Coges · « **Reply #2982 on:** July 01, 2016, 06:46:46 pm »

Quote from: T0ddday on July 01, 2016, 03:24:51 pm

Quote from: Coges on July 01, 2016, 06:34:07 am
It is weird how people will gladly tell you how skinny you are (always with the tall and skinny) yet they would never say the same thing to a fat person. Just imagine that "hey, you're so short and fat. how's that working out for you?"

Quote from: Leonel on July 01, 2016, 06:42:29 am
That's actually true. I mean for someone who really struggles with being tall and skinny it's also pretty hurtful when you comment on it all the time yet in our society it's not appropriate to tell someone when he is really fat. I mean where's the logic in that.

The logic comes from the fact that it's better in pretty much every aspect of life (jobs, women, money, etc) to be tall. And w the exception of a few athletes with musclerexia being skinny is usually thought of a generally good thing that comes with the territory.

So someone might ask how is your good fortune working out for you? This is completely logical. It's the same reason we don't pry into why someone is poor but we comment on people who made it as a positive thing... There is a guy I train and I always assumed was an average upper/middle class (by LA standards) guy... He showed up to the gym Sunday in a blue lambo and I definitely asked him how he came up on that - turns out he was in Google early... I wouldn't have asked about his struggles if he showed up in a bucket...

I get y'all don't like being skinny... But you can't expect society to assume your strange particular hangup when most people want what you have. I always want to be smaller and less muscular - so when I change and someone says "whoa your traps are huge" or someone refers to me as the "big guy" or says "your amazingly fast for a big guy" I cringe cause I would rather see myself as a smaller speed athlete... This is why I haven't done upper body training in years! However, since I realize this is generally thought to be a good thing I understand where they are coming from...

Reminds me of a time recently when I was playing ball and after the game there was an impromptu dunk contest... I was jumping really well and threw down one of my cleaner windmills... A 22 year old guy asked me for my age and when I told him I was in my thirties he said "OMG you must have absolutely flew in your younger days!" For some reason this made me so mad... But I just smiled and said thanks 😐.

Good points. It's amazing how our perception differs from others. I remember overestimating my brother in law's weight. He had a decent upper body especially chest and arms but was horrified that I was so far off the mark. Didn't realise at the time that he was a FFB (former fat bastard) and had worked religiously to get the weight off and keep it off and was still touchy about it after 20 years.

Like you said though I'd rather be tall and skinny than short and fat any day of the week.

maxent · « **Reply #2983 on:** July 01, 2016, 11:07:15 pm »

I cant wait to hear 'you must have flown when you were younger' when i land my first set of windmills!!! Motivation level: super fly for an old guy

maxent · « **Reply #2984 on:** July 01, 2016, 11:09:37 pm »

BW: 79.7kg / 175.71 lb (LPR!!!!)

FInally broke thru the 80kg barrier. On the start of day 6 which is nice. Last night i was freaking out that i wudnt be able to train well today because i felt like shit .. so i had roast pork, a cheese burger, protein shake and a frozen chicken microwave meal. Hopefully that was enough to get me recovered enough to LPR today, squats.

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