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« Reply #3885 on: August 19, 2017, 03:41:08 am »
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Diet Compliance: 4/65

Not too sore but im not sure if i'll be able to do a good volume squat day tomorrow. Hopefully. Going to eat and rest and see how it goes.
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« Reply #3886 on: August 19, 2017, 04:34:55 am »
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I think for the RDLs, you need to drop weight and improve RoM, you'll get a lot more out of it. Halfway down shins is right ^. Keep the chest up, that should help lock your lower back. Great training lately mate.

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« Reply #3887 on: August 20, 2017, 01:51:48 am »
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BW: 85.1kg
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Hip flexors bit sore but volume day looms. Gna split it into two sessions again. Lets see how this goes lol

BS1 8x5x115(PR)
BS2 8x5x115(PR)

Notes:
First pickup bball in months did a number on me. Bball just wrecks my fascia from the foot up, I was beaten up. I had all but decided to skip lifting today and get an extra day of rest but an afternoon nap made me feel better and i decided to go for it. Tbh i wasn't fresh enough to do any decent squat workout but im satisfied i can still manage 16x5x115 even in this state. The downside is from set 1 i struggled to get a clean 5th rep on every set. Not happy with form. Next week i'll go in better prepared and get some quality sets in. Technically crisp and volume = win.

TLDR: stuck to the EOD regime by forcing a hard workout of volume squats. Next week volume day - be fresh and nail every rep.
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« Reply #3888 on: August 21, 2017, 05:04:53 am »
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BW: 85kg
Activity: 8000
Misc: R knee a bit wonky
Diet Compliance: 6/65

Rest.

Ended up doing a lot of walking. It was just a beautiful night for it. Goes to show how much my work capacity has improved lately. Nice.
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« Reply #3889 on: August 22, 2017, 03:21:43 am »
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BW: 84.9kg
Activity: 9500 (good)
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Recovery lower body & ohp training to come tonight.

Recovery BS 6x90, 6x90, 6x80 (Some paused reps for form work)
OHP 2x60, 2x1x65(PR), 0Fx67.5, 4x57.5, 4x5x55,4Fx55
Chinup 3x98(PR+10kg), 3x5x93(+5kg), 4x93, 5x91.5
DB OHP a few sets dont remember details
Jump rope
Masai hops 3 sets
done
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« Reply #3890 on: August 23, 2017, 05:18:52 am »
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BW: 85.2kg
Activity: 7500
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Rest.

Entropy, I remember you went from semi-weak and "fat and furious" like myself, to strong and lean. How did you do it? I am trying to go thru that process right now and I would appreciate some tips from you.

If i remember correctly, you lost a decent amount of fat and still gained a ton of FS strength.

lol. Good times. I prob would suggest taking a long term view on this. do 12 week cycles where you focus on fat loss, then take a break from dieting while shifting to maintaining your bodyweight but focusing on performance, then diet some more, continue until you're satisfied. Don't try to slog thru a huge cut in one long cycle, it's hard to stay motivated.
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« Reply #3891 on: August 24, 2017, 04:03:43 am »
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BW: 84.7kg
Activity: 11.5k (great)
Misc:
Diet Compliance: 9/65

Heavy day tonight..!

BS 3x120, 3x132.5(PR), 1x142.5(PR), 1x145(PR), 5x130(PR)
RDL 8x120, 8x180H(PR)
Jumps
Hill Sprints x 7 (PR; +1 rep)
Back Xtn 3x10x60(PR)

Notes:
Good lifting day. Ok jumping day. Did one great jump but a lot of so so ones. It's ok. I need to stop myself getting obsessed with jumping right now, it will drive me crazy with my perfectionist tendencies. Actually got a back pump for the first on back extensions.. not sure why? it's only 10s for now, ive done close to 15 at this weight.
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« Reply #3892 on: August 25, 2017, 03:40:02 am »
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BW: 85.2kg
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Rest. If my friend wants to put up some shots i'll go down but otherwise im cool.

I went to put some shots up and it was a mistake. got pulled into a pickup game and one dude was talking mad shit and i shrugged it off didn't lose my calm but i wanted to block him out of the city and i wasnt fresh enough to do anything. got one but he called foul smh. Came home pissed off (at myself for being shit) and binged on chocolate lol lol. start over tmr. just wait til im finished transforming into lebron. i will get my revenge haha
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« Reply #3893 on: August 26, 2017, 04:43:41 am »
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BW: 85.1kg
Activity: 10,000
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Diet Compliance: 14/14, 0/5, 9/9, 1/55

Chest day!

Recovery BS 6x70, 6x90, 6x80
BP 2x3x87.5(PR), 1Fx89.5(PR), 2x88.5(PR), 1Fx87.5
Paused BP 5x72.5, 4x5x70
BP incline DB 10x20, 10x20, 8x20
Dips 5x6xBW
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« Reply #3894 on: August 27, 2017, 09:20:04 am »
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No such thing as rest days. Ended up playing outdoor ball with my friend running thru post drills. No big deal right? He's just one of the few guys who makes me feel like spud webb in the NBA. Im achy and sore .. concrete life lol.  Yea squat volume day tomorrow, good job dickhead!
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« Reply #3895 on: August 27, 2017, 10:54:32 am »
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this is true but im trying to train my ability to train even in suboptimum state. the days of doing only lifting and nothing else to preserve recovery didn't really serve me very well. im a better athlete now in that i can do more things in training without needing perfect sleep/rest to make it work. work capacity isn't just how much work you can do in a workout but also how much work you can do while not fresh and also how much work you can do and do other things very soon after without needing a lot of rest in between. i think. in the past i couldn't do as much work in a workout but i def couldn't do it in a compromised state and now i can, which is cool. will keep training that ability, i think there's more there for me to attain. Exciting stuff. PRs aren't just weight on the bar but also the amount of work you can do.
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« Reply #3896 on: August 27, 2017, 07:05:22 pm »
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this is true but im trying to train my ability to train even in suboptimum state. the days of doing only lifting and nothing else to preserve recovery didn't really serve me very well. im a better athlete now in that i can do more things in training without needing perfect sleep/rest to make it work. work capacity isn't just how much work you can do in a workout but also how much work you can do while not fresh and also how much work you can do and do other things very soon after without needing a lot of rest in between. i think. in the past i couldn't do as much work in a workout but i def couldn't do it in a compromised state and now i can, which is cool. will keep training that ability, i think there's more there for me to attain. Exciting stuff. PRs aren't just weight on the bar but also the amount of work you can do.

yup.

this is true but im trying to train my ability to train even in suboptimum state. the days of doing only lifting and nothing else to preserve recovery didn't really serve me very well. im a better athlete now in that i can do more things in training without needing perfect sleep/rest to make it work. work capacity isn't just how much work you can do in a workout but also how much work you can do while not fresh and also how much work you can do and do other things very soon after without needing a lot of rest in between. i think. in the past i couldn't do as much work in a workout but i def couldn't do it in a compromised state and now i can, which is cool. will keep training that ability, i think there's more there for me to attain. Exciting stuff. PRs aren't just weight on the bar but also the amount of work you can do.

Yep definitely. and it showed last night in the fight; mcgregor was more youthful and prob stronger and just as in shape, but come the 9th round, his arms were like strings while mayweather was still throwing like its the 3rd round. Something about mayweather's mind to body connection is different.

one thing people need to realize too though, is Floyd is a FREAK. He's that 40 year old guy you see at a 5k who dusts everyone, dropping an insane time. Olympic athlete, boxed his entire life, has so much experience that he doesn't "worry" in a boxing match such that worrying causes more stress & fatigue. He's "as cool as a cucumber". But the amount of work he's put in over the years, dwarfs Conor by several orders of magnitude. Conor is only 29, Floyd has ~8 more years of hard work he put in, fighting at the elite level. So although it seems like youth was on Conor's side, it was actually more of a detriment. His "youth" is an extreme experience disadvantage since he's crossing over from MMA to Boxing.

so, as much as it is important for Conor to achieve elite level ability to recover, round after round in a high paced boxing match; trying to do such a thing "for the first time" in a massive event like that, is absolutely impossible. He could have become the world's best 12 x 3 minute runner and Floyd would have figured out how to drag him into deep waters that Conor has never experienced before.

so back to maxent & just training in general .. our failures over time & staying consistent, teach us alot. Training hard for so long, that experience is important. And think about how much we're still learning even 10 years later in some cases... At the highest levels, everything comes down to "mastery". It's usually the smallest little details that pay out the most.

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« Reply #3897 on: August 28, 2017, 07:08:18 am »
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Great post. Should we make a separate thread for this discussion? I'd be interested in getting more insight on work capacity. I think it's one of the reasons i never had a great physique is b/c my work capacity lagged behind and i didn't get the hormonal profile / adaptations that an elite male athlete would have got out of training. Less blame on genetics more on poor work capacity. Lemme know i'm happy to make it!
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« Reply #3898 on: August 28, 2017, 07:11:14 am »
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BW: 86.2kg (PR!)
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Diet Compliance: 14/14, 0/5, 9/9, 0/2, 1/52

BS 9x5x117.5(PR)
BS 9x5x117.5(PR)

Notes:
First session out of the way, i wrapped it up in about an hour, just under. Will rest a bit, eat and then go back for sesh 2. It wasn't easy but i managed. Hopefully 2nd one isnt too bad. Btw i felt a bit of a dick doing this volume session at peak hour at the gym. I prefer when they fall on weekends..

2nd session was brutal but i dont feel as dead after as i did in the first. Now to recover..
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« Reply #3899 on: August 29, 2017, 04:02:53 am »
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BW: 86.2kg
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Diet Compliance: 14/14, 0/5, 9/9, 0/2, 2/52

Cutting down on carbs today until next volume day when i can refeed.
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