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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3945 on: September 18, 2017, 02:01:52 am »
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Quote from: maxent on September 17, 2017, 11:50:52 pm
Quote from: Coges on September 17, 2017, 07:50:35 pm
Happy birthday btw. May all your jumps match or exceed your age.

thanks! The tarp thing is from the old internet forum i cant remember which, either Power & Bulk or Irongarmx where they'd always mispell it. Never learned anything else from there tho

Haha ok cool. I just assumed you were updating from a phone and it was auto correcting.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3946 on: September 18, 2017, 01:24:29 pm »
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Quote from: Coges on September 18, 2017, 02:01:52 am
Quote from: maxent on September 17, 2017, 11:50:52 pm
Quote from: Coges on September 17, 2017, 07:50:35 pm
Happy birthday btw. May all your jumps match or exceed your age.

thanks! The tarp thing is from the old internet forum i cant remember which, either Power & Bulk or Irongarmx where they'd always mispell it. Never learned anything else from there tho

Haha ok cool. I just assumed you were updating from a phone and it was auto correcting.

i assumed he didn't know how it was spelled, but, i also had part of me that thought he was spelling it that way on purpose for fun .. kinda like how people spell "the" -> "teh" .. hah.
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« Reply #3947 on: September 18, 2017, 01:25:59 pm »
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Quote from: maxent on September 17, 2017, 12:35:49 am
BW: 85.7kg
Activity: 12.5
Misc:
Diet Compliance: 14/14, 0/5, 9/9, 0/2, 4/4, 0/2, 14/14(PR)

Here we go. Heavy day! Last training session at 33 y/o.
BS 3x140(PR), 0Fx160(lifetime PR attempt)
SVJ PR!!! RVJ PR!!

BS 5x132.5(PR), 5x135(PR)
RDL 10x120(PR), 8x210(PR; hooked)
TDL 8x90(PR), 8x100(PR)
Hill Sprints 4(PR; +10kg vest), 4(unweighted)
BackXtn 12x60, 12x60, 10x60

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First session out of the way. I bailed on the 160kg at quarter squat position. My weaksauce quads just can't look out what my glutes and hips can bounce out. This is frustrating but i know now with the tarpbar filling the gap (training the portion of quarter squat from dead stop) i will FINALLY address this weakness. Anyway! Im gna go back for the 2nd sesh later tonight!

2nd session was dope. Killed every set i attempted. PR for daysssss. It still seems unbelieavable to me but the only exercise which causes my legs to fatigue or get a burn .. is ... freaking tarp bar DL. And im using such modest weights too. So maybe i got it wrong all along. To get stronger legs i needed to ...... DL .. all that time spent obsessing about my squat nevertheless left my legs weak. lol. So awesome to discover that after all this time. All along I hammered my strong point instead (glutes & hams) of my weak point(quads). Now we know. Having said that, i need way more reserve PC strength to make up for my shit build for squatting. So im gonna keep progressing EVERYTHANG .. but now also my weaknesses which i wasnt hitting before.

that is pretty much the definition of a "PR fest" .. was awesome scrolling down my IG feed and seeing "PR", then another "PR", then another "PR", and one more "PR".

 :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record: :personal-record:

and turns out, there's even more PR's, not video taped. lmfao.

happy birthday man.. keep riding this wave dude, straight up beast mode.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3948 on: September 18, 2017, 10:58:28 pm »
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Yeah similar to that and hodl in bitcoin communities  :D Like an inside joke but it takes on new meaning on the very fact that's it's an in. Guys i have reconsidered my assessment that weak quads are to blame. Greg K makes the argument that the hardest part of the squat is at the bottom of the squat up to about parellel and quads are responsible. So what muscle group takes over from half to quarter? Regardless of how you dice it up, i find i have found a weakness (being shit at tarpbar) and by hammering it hard i shud hope it carries over to my sticking point on the squat. Idk what else to do whether or not the reasoning is sound, if it works that's all that matters
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« Reply #3949 on: September 18, 2017, 11:00:26 pm »
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BW: 86kg
Activity: 11.5
Misc:
Diet Compliance: 14/14, 0/5, 9/9, 0/2, 4/4, 0/2, 16/16(PR)

New philosophy, write code everyday. I started on the adarq log posting android app i talked about a week or two ago. Will be writing it in Kotlin. Was going to get it started last night before midnight but i realised i dont even remember my forum password. So idk, maybe make a new account but no excuses #writecodeeveryday. Training today, upper body and recovery squats
BS 2x120
Paused BP 5x5x80

Recovery BS 2x120, 2x6x115(+2.5kg from last time)
Incline DB BP 6x22.5, 8x27.5(PR), 8x30(PR), (i i may have done a set after this but i cant remember for sure)
Weighted Dips 5x104(PR; 10kg vest + 5kg plate), 5x104(same deal), 3x5x105(PR; vest + 6kg kettle)
Curls 8x30, 8x35, 8x35
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3950 on: September 19, 2017, 07:10:29 am »
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Nice work on the  :personal-record:

Your journal is highly motivational...I need to step my squat game up and catch up to you. Deadly work brother.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3951 on: September 19, 2017, 09:08:15 am »
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Give us more details about the SVJ/RVJ PRs???  :ibjumping: :highfive:
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3952 on: September 19, 2017, 12:51:26 pm »
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Quote from: vag on September 19, 2017, 09:08:15 am
Give us more details about the SVJ/RVJ PRs???  :ibjumping: :highfive:



The SVJ pr is b/c first time ive touched the vent pipe in the gym on a svj jump. It's 30" to do that. It's prob also like the 2nd or 3rd SVJ ive done at a high target in the last 3 months though.

The RVJ i touched higher but hard to tell relatively how high to the pipe to estimate. I'd say maybe a hopeful 35".

Not putting a lot of stock on these jump PRs currently, ive been jumping less lately which will change once ive finished the high vol squatting phase! Then i'll do proper peaking and arrange a  jump session on a bball court which should help me jump a lil bit higher b/c it's really awkward windup at the gym (kinda like a hockeystick shaped run up).

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« Reply #3953 on: September 19, 2017, 09:55:06 pm »
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BW: 86.2kg
Activity: 13.5 (!!)
Misc: sore quads/hams, hips, erectors
Diet Compliance: 14/14, 0/5, 9/9, 0/2, 4/4, 0/2, 17/17(PR)

Rest. Tmr is the squat volume with 125kg for sets of 5 milestone. Yikes...
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3954 on: September 20, 2017, 12:44:49 am »
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nice job on the PRs, as everyone said. you are giving up inches on your SVJ by not swinging your arms harder.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3955 on: September 20, 2017, 08:35:40 am »
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Quote from: LBSS on September 20, 2017, 12:44:49 am
nice job on the PRs, as everyone said. you are giving up inches on your SVJ by not swinging your arms harder.

oh shit good catch. you should have seen my depth jumps when i started i wasnt using my arms at all (not even swining them) and adarqui helped me with that to the point where i was using them a lot more but still not quite here. Will try on SVJ when i do them next time. thanks!
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3956 on: September 20, 2017, 08:38:56 am »
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Decided i dont want to do a long cut down the road. Going to start chipping away at some of this plump by making small changes which will add up over the long term. Adding bitter orange to my caffeine and green tea fasted walking protocol and bumping up daily act from 10 to 12. That shud be around a 10-20% boost to metabolic rate and will show up positive changes over the timescale of months. Ofc im going to stay eating clean, i even picked up some sweet potato today which is a first for me. Turns out the bodybuilders solved this nutrition for bodycomp problem a long time ago, bout time i followd their lessons...
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3957 on: September 20, 2017, 08:56:32 am »
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What's the idea behind the fasted walking? Does it really do much if daily surplus/deficit is not where it needs to be?
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3958 on: September 20, 2017, 10:41:39 am »
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Quote from: Joe on September 20, 2017, 08:56:32 am
What's the idea behind the fasted walking? Does it really do much if daily surplus/deficit is not where it needs to be?

it really depends on the situation. But even being in a deficit isn't enough sometimes. Like take ChrisM pretty athletic and lean but he might have some fat stores in his chest and lower back that just wont go away. Even in a correct diet with a deficit, the body holds on to these 'stubborn' areas hard and to get it to use them for energy you can use tricks like fasted walking with Caffeine+green tea. In my case it's way overkill and there's plenty of nonstubborn fat around for the body to use more readily

in teh surplus situation you wanna keep the fat burning metabolic pathways active so your body still knows how to use fat for energy even tho you're prob eating a lot of carbs around training, you can keep your fat burning adaptations active by doing cardio during bulks. this is the part ive never got right but im being super bodybuilder like obsessive now to get it right
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #3959 on: September 20, 2017, 10:58:29 am »
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Quote from: maxent on September 20, 2017, 08:38:56 am
Decided i dont want to do a long cut down the road. Going to start chipping away at some of this plump by making small changes which will add up over the long term. Adding bitter orange to my caffeine and green tea fasted walking protocol and bumping up daily act from 10 to 12. That shud be around a 10-20% boost to metabolic rate and will show up positive changes over the timescale of months. Ofc im going to stay eating clean, i even picked up some sweet potato today which is a first for me. Turns out the bodybuilders solved this nutrition for bodycomp problem a long time ago, bout time i followd their lessons...

cottage cheese and anything that taste like cardboard.

you can eat oats (the longer to cook, the better) in case you go apeshit and must get some carbs in.

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