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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4050 on: November 05, 2017, 01:15:26 am »
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those jumps you did looked really good, and those shoes looked great to jump in, adarq approved from what I see.. :ninja:

your jumping should sky rocket when you start jumping more, and potentially reduce some of this fatigue by lowering the volume drastically and potentially just getting in some more non-MAX efforts, more frequently. Not sure how you are planning to transition, but you could easily handle more squat days after doing a routine like that, as long as you drop the volume & still do "heavy" sessions but, more of a focus on non-aggressive/non-amp'd up ones, so you're in the "training max territory" and not the "true max territory".

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Thanks! The shoes are def my fav. If they ever reduce the weight down it could be GOAT but they're light enough for me that i dont really mind. Love them.

The plan is to finish up high vol  (20 sets) adventures this coming week then start taking sets off each week. Thinking take off 2/2 the first week to 16 sets and then 14 the following week etc. That way as i release some fatigue, i benefit by getting a bit stronger each week as well. I can start doing more submax jumps once i feel like i can handle more training load as I go along? For summer i want to put my squats on maintenance (on say 5x5x150kg) and peak my athleticism / fitness / bball.
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« Reply #4051 on: November 05, 2017, 01:18:30 am »
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BW: 88.9kg
Activity: 7.6
Misc: erectors
Diet Compliance: 30/30(PR)
Mobility: T
Skill work: T

Rest but will be actively trying to recover and getting around 8 activity.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4052 on: November 05, 2017, 06:19:35 am »
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Bad luck about the 160 (352lbs) failing but congrats on the 152.5x3 PR. Honestly if you were fresh and didn't hit the 152.5x3 prior to attempting 160 I believe you would have got 160 easily. Theoretically with a 152.5x3 your 1RM for the squat should be around 167.5 or even 170 on a good day.  The way I calculated that is most people's 3RM for a bench, squat or deadlift usually equates to a 1RM of 3RM +10%.
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« Reply #4053 on: November 05, 2017, 09:06:43 am »
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Bad luck about the 160 (352lbs) failing but congrats on the 152.5x3 PR. Honestly if you were fresh and didn't hit the 152.5x3 prior to attempting 160 I believe you would have got 160 easily. Theoretically with a 152.5x3 your 1RM for the squat should be around 167.5 or even 170 on a good day.  The way I calculated that is most people's 3RM for a bench, squat or deadlift usually equates to a 1RM of 3RM +10%.

thanks mate! i kinda only wanted teh 160kg if it was  submax, you know? like if it was a true 1rm, i dont want it b/c i know it would have been ugly af and it wud have wrecked my recovery for the rest of the week, which would disrupt my usual squat program. So i wasn't really looking for a make at that price. I did an ugly af 157.5kg (as in it was up on my insta for a few minutes before i decided it was too shameful lol) back when my volume worksets were (i think) 122.5kg for 5s. So i know i can always get an ugly PR around 160kg but i want something im proud of .. if i get an ugly 1rm max and im ashamed of it then i can't expect anyone else to care either if the person who cares the most doesn't even care for it. I have a lot of work to do. My dream, maybe not realistic is to hit 180kg this summer while making it a 2xbw milestone. I dont know if that's in the cards THIS summer but i will try my best to get volume worksets around 150kg to give myself a fighting chance..
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4054 on: November 05, 2017, 09:26:01 pm »
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Bad luck about the 160 (352lbs) failing but congrats on the 152.5x3 PR. Honestly if you were fresh and didn't hit the 152.5x3 prior to attempting 160 I believe you would have got 160 easily. Theoretically with a 152.5x3 your 1RM for the squat should be around 167.5 or even 170 on a good day.  The way I calculated that is most people's 3RM for a bench, squat or deadlift usually equates to a 1RM of 3RM +10%.

thanks mate! i kinda only wanted teh 160kg if it was  submax, you know? like if it was a true 1rm, i dont want it b/c i know it would have been ugly af and it wud have wrecked my recovery for the rest of the week, which would disrupt my usual squat program. So i wasn't really looking for a make at that price. I did an ugly af 157.5kg (as in it was up on my insta for a few minutes before i decided it was too shameful lol) back when my volume worksets were (i think) 122.5kg for 5s. So i know i can always get an ugly PR around 160kg but i want something im proud of .. if i get an ugly 1rm max and im ashamed of it then i can't expect anyone else to care either if the person who cares the most doesn't even care for it. I have a lot of work to do. My dream, maybe not realistic is to hit 180kg this summer while making it a 2xbw milestone. I dont know if that's in the cards THIS summer but i will try my best to get volume worksets around 150kg to give myself a fighting chance..

Loving your success lately and this is an awesome attitude to have. I think you're like me and ugly reps have sent you in the wrong direction in the past.
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« Reply #4055 on: November 06, 2017, 01:10:32 am »
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Bad luck about the 160 (352lbs) failing but congrats on the 152.5x3 PR. Honestly if you were fresh and didn't hit the 152.5x3 prior to attempting 160 I believe you would have got 160 easily. Theoretically with a 152.5x3 your 1RM for the squat should be around 167.5 or even 170 on a good day.  The way I calculated that is most people's 3RM for a bench, squat or deadlift usually equates to a 1RM of 3RM +10%.

thanks mate! i kinda only wanted teh 160kg if it was  submax, you know? like if it was a true 1rm, i dont want it b/c i know it would have been ugly af and it wud have wrecked my recovery for the rest of the week, which would disrupt my usual squat program. So i wasn't really looking for a make at that price. I did an ugly af 157.5kg (as in it was up on my insta for a few minutes before i decided it was too shameful lol) back when my volume worksets were (i think) 122.5kg for 5s. So i know i can always get an ugly PR around 160kg but i want something im proud of .. if i get an ugly 1rm max and im ashamed of it then i can't expect anyone else to care either if the person who cares the most doesn't even care for it. I have a lot of work to do. My dream, maybe not realistic is to hit 180kg this summer while making it a 2xbw milestone. I dont know if that's in the cards THIS summer but i will try my best to get volume worksets around 150kg to give myself a fighting chance..

Loving your success lately and this is an awesome attitude to have. I think you're like me and ugly reps have sent you in the wrong direction in the past.

Yup! I just reviewed the video of the fail and i was pretty relaxed during the rep even during the bail, i just wasn't going to force it that day b/c on the back of my mind was i can't mess myself up too much when i have to do 10x5x140kg in a couple of days time. When i compare it to the 3x152.5kg i was really aggressive on those b/c that was programmed PR for the day. 160kg was just an after thought cos i didnt think i could get a 5x147.5kg PR with how i felt. The right move would have been go for 4x147.5kg instead of the 0x160kg though. I find squat mornings are bad for recovery, it used to take me over a week to recover from a dirty goodmorning rep but these days i can do better than that but i'd rather not make my program a lot harder than it needs to be. In that vein ive been eating more carbs, esp before bed b/c i know better sleep gives better recovery and carbs are my friend. Not like im eating tons of carbs now but adding a banana to my whey/berry smoothie and an extra piece of bread to an already baseline intake goes a long way.
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« Reply #4056 on: November 06, 2017, 01:12:39 am »
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BW: 88.7kg
Activity: 8.5
Misc: n/a
Diet Compliance: 31/31(PR)
Mobility: T
Skill work: F

Active recovery lower & maintenance upper body today.

Recovery BS 2x6x112.5(+2.5kg; good)
Maintenance Semi-paused BP 5x87.5
Maintenance Dips 17xBW(92kg; PRish)

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4057 on: November 06, 2017, 07:47:37 am »
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You can't spam your own journal haha.
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« Reply #4058 on: November 06, 2017, 11:40:02 pm »
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BW: 89.3kg
Activity: 7.7
Misc: n/a
Diet Compliance: 32/32(PR)
Mobility: T
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Legit rest today; last high volume day tmr.
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« Reply #4059 on: November 08, 2017, 05:47:21 am »
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BW: 89.3kg
Activity: 11
Misc: n/a
Diet Compliance: 33/33(PR)
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Got that sick feeling just prior to the volume session. But all things considered my prep has been good this week and today i even had 2 meals before the session.  So lets see how it goes, brb.

BS 6x5x140(PR), 4x140, 3x140, 2x140, 2x140

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I only managed 6 sets of 5!  I should have done a 7th set of 5 and gone home but i reasoned out of the ugly 5th rep and bargained to attempt another pretty 4 sets of 4 instead, which didn't happen either - bird in hand etc. Nevermind. Im going to fucking repeat this workout next week and crush it for all 10 sets of 5.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4060 on: November 08, 2017, 06:00:06 am »
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You got this  :headbang:
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« Reply #4061 on: November 08, 2017, 11:09:31 pm »
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BW: 89.5kg
Activity: 11
Misc: Erectors pretty beat (ha)
Diet Compliance: 34/34(PR)
Mobility: T
Skill work: T

Rest. But see below post.
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« Reply #4062 on: November 09, 2017, 09:56:52 pm »
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BW: 89.9kg
Activity: 7
Misc: n/a
Diet Compliance: 35/35(PR)
Mobility: T
Skill work: F

Recovery lower & maintenance upper. Might restart the tempo sprints but make them like tempo tempo tempo sprints to start with ha

Recovery BS 2x6x115(+2.5kg, good)
Maintenance OHP 2x5x60
Maintenance Chinups 8xBW
Band resisted Goblet KB squat  8x10, 8x20, 8x32 (PRs; strong!; new exercise, good for stability at the bottom of the squat. highly recommend)
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« Reply #4063 on: November 10, 2017, 09:28:39 pm »
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BW: 89.7kg
Activity: 10+
Misc: R knee niggles
Diet Compliance: 36/36(PR)
Mobility: T
Skill work: T

Rest but will put up some jumpshots in the PM with a friend

my dumb ass ended up playing pickup for a coupla hours on concrete. i have to squat heavy tmr. good job. ha ha
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« Reply #4064 on: November 11, 2017, 11:34:45 pm »
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BW: 89.1kg
Activity: 13.1 (!!)
Misc: n/a
Diet Compliance: 37/37(PR)
Mobility: T
Skill work: T

More bball today and heavy training. Please dont break body, please..

Bball practice

BS 3x127.5, 1x155, 1x160(PR), 4x147.5(PR)
submax jumps
maintenance hill sprints x 5
Back Xtn 10x90(PR)

Notes:
Bball really beats the shit out of me when i get back into it :( But i said F it im going to lift whatever happens. Finally cracked the 160kg milestone. Only happened because i did the first rep of 3x155kg PR attempt and thought nope nope that was too hard to rep out another 2 times. So racked it and felt fresh and strong enough to go for 160kg. It's done. The only shitty thing was the 4th and last rep of that 147.5kg - yup hella squatmorninged it :/ so erectors will be fried af the next couple of days. Hopefully recovered for the last high volume sesh on thursday though.
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