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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4665 on: March 04, 2019, 10:29:45 pm »
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With dunking, i feel hypoglycemic after one or two attempts. and im not in a position to be able to take workout nutrition. Right now being on the basketball court is 'cardio time' so im not trying to lose any fat loss benefit that it confers by trying to perform better. If i just shoot around my HR will be around 110. If i push the pace i can get it up to 140. it's like cardio that i can do for hours. Not sure i even want to be getting in the habit of sipping gatorade on the basketball court, that will mess with my heart .. sugar is def poison for me and at 25g a day of it during gym sessions (shake) im not able to add any more without risking bad health. I find when i start eating more junk (ie sugar and fat) my mental and physical wellbeing goes down and im at risk of getting arrhythmia problems. I've literally sworn off chocolate/cookies/cakes/sweets completely .. not just for a bit but never again just to stay out of hospital..

daily squatting makes my knees feel shit .. all the time.. now. it doesn't seem to matter if im resting or not .. ive tried 3 days of 'recovery' and i still haven't got them feeling good. it makes it hard to justify doing jumping tho when even light recovery squats are too much to make knees feel normal. may have signed a deal with the devil with this thing that i wish i could run back :/

If i was complaining about a 25" vertical last week .. then what do i say about last night w hen i was lucky to get 12" i couldn't even touch the rim .. was getting the net about halfway. and that's with 'rest'. so yea this is not about trying to train for a 40 without jumping. this is about trying to get back to 30

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4666 on: March 05, 2019, 12:21:55 am »
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With dunking, i feel hypoglycemic after one or two attempts. and im not in a position to be able to take workout nutrition. Right now being on the basketball court is 'cardio time' so im not trying to lose any fat loss benefit that it confers by trying to perform better. If i just shoot around my HR will be around 110. If i push the pace i can get it up to 140. it's like cardio that i can do for hours. Not sure i even want to be getting in the habit of sipping gatorade on the basketball court, that will mess with my heart .. sugar is def poison for me and at 25g a day of it during gym sessions (shake) im not able to add any more without risking bad health. I find when i start eating more junk (ie sugar and fat) my mental and physical wellbeing goes down and im at risk of getting arrhythmia problems. I've literally sworn off chocolate/cookies/cakes/sweets completely .. not just for a bit but never again just to stay out of hospital..

daily squatting makes my knees feel shit .. all the time.. now. it doesn't seem to matter if im resting or not .. ive tried 3 days of 'recovery' and i still haven't got them feeling good. it makes it hard to justify doing jumping tho when even light recovery squats are too much to make knees feel normal. may have signed a deal with the devil with this thing that i wish i could run back :/

If i was complaining about a 25" vertical last week .. then what do i say about last night w hen i was lucky to get 12" i couldn't even touch the rim .. was getting the net about halfway. and that's with 'rest'. so yea this is not about trying to train for a 40 without jumping. this is about trying to get back to 30

Dude your log makes me sad sometimes. And angry but mostly sad. I also leave it to last out of every log cause it's my daily dose of drama. Far be it for me to tell you how to train or what to do but seriously dude, take an unsentimental view of yourself and your training. It also might be worth handing the reigns over to someone else for a while.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4667 on: March 05, 2019, 09:31:44 am »
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Bodyweight(AM): 89.0kg (5st March)
Diet compliance: 0/0 days
Daily Squat: 106/106 days

Morning:
    

Noon:
   BS 7x120, 2x155, 8x142.5(PR)
   OHP 10x20 

Evening:
 Jumps x 20  


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  • oddest thing .. i pretty much had to teach my body how to jump higher today essentially from scratch. and once i did i went from 25" to 30" to 32" in one session. Had to go pee real bad (outdoor court) so left it at that. But i don't do so well using my forearm as a target. My body will only jump high enough for my hand to hit the target :/ Turns out there's jumping and then there is jumping. The latter is like the former except on a different gear .. maybe taps into strength more.. it's so weird. i still can't dunk but at least i got my jump back to baseline (32"). if i can get my bw closer to 85kg, i'll prob be in the 35-36" ballpark. Fuck that though, seems the new bw of 89-90kg in the morning has become permanent.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4668 on: March 07, 2019, 10:18:26 am »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4669 on: March 07, 2019, 05:10:20 pm »
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Hey mate. I remember you always talk about how you have slow feet when you play. Everything I've read and heard recently talks on hip flexor strength as the key to quicker feet. Could be some pretty cheap gains for you. (L-sit, leg raises, cable pull ins, etc).
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4670 on: March 07, 2019, 10:08:41 pm »
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Hey mate. I remember you always talk about how you have slow feet when you play. Everything I've read and heard recently talks on hip flexor strength as the key to quicker feet. Could be some pretty cheap gains for you. (L-sit, leg raises, cable pull ins, etc).

interesting. i'll look those exercises up. i dont mind adding extra accessory work so i'll def try incorporate some of these. thank you
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4671 on: March 07, 2019, 11:01:33 pm »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great

Come on mate. You should know better than to mention race like this.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4672 on: March 08, 2019, 06:45:52 am »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great

Come on mate. You should know better than to mention race like this.

yea you're right. i wanted to write something else but i thought it would be too doxy and made it more vague. maybe should have just stuck with human male.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4673 on: March 08, 2019, 06:47:43 am »
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Can someone explain why i could do 147.5kg for 7 reps a couple of weeks ago but now im struggling to progress 8s from 140kg when i managed 12x137.5kg and a 170kg single since i did that 7x147.5kg. To make matters worse ive specialised in a bad way on stufpid f&*Kn squats and been completely sedentary and eating like a godamn fatty to boot.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4674 on: March 08, 2019, 08:01:38 am »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great

you got "demasculated" :trollface:

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4675 on: March 08, 2019, 08:06:40 am »
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Can someone explain why i could do 147.5kg for 7 reps a couple of weeks ago but now im struggling to progress 8s from 140kg when i managed 12x137.5kg and a 170kg single since i did that 7x147.5kg. To make matters worse ive specialised in a bad way on stufpid f&*Kn squats and been completely sedentary and eating like a godamn fatty to boot.

the ebbs and flows of human performance.

it's possible that you're still not recovered from the 170kg PR.

additionally, your knees seem to be jacked up & your fitness seems awful. i'd personally dial back squats considerably until your knees feel good. your knees shouldn't be hurting/achy from daily squatting (or squatting in general) like you mentioned a few days ago - that's probably a sign that something has gone wrong.

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4676 on: March 08, 2019, 08:12:01 am »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4677 on: March 08, 2019, 10:37:22 am »
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Played 1v1 today with this over weight 62 year old white man. he beat me both games .. lol. prep is going great



i wish. that would be less humiliating. first game he beat me fair and square, i think he was up 8 to 2. i got up to maybe 6 but he won that one. no joke, he has 2 moves, he moves slow af and i know every time what he's going to do and yet i couldn't stop him. beware the man who has practiced 2 moves 1000 times compared to the guy who has practiced 1000 moves twice. or whatver the saying is.  2nd was i tried a bit harder (but not too much cos it would be unfair) .. i could beat him straight driving to the hoop but that's nothing to be proud of .. im half his age and i hate when i play against young guys who burn you from the perimeter if you get too close .. or they hit 3 after 3 on you cause why not (the game gone changed). he won 12-10 .. i had several game points but i couldnt hit my jumpers. He can't shoot by the way. Im not sure but this has really put me in a spiral .. lol. the game may have passed me by in a big way. i think i was the athletic guy who could score easily but is no longer athletic and has no skills (aka old man game) to make up for it

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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4678 on: March 08, 2019, 10:40:34 am »
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Can someone explain why i could do 147.5kg for 7 reps a couple of weeks ago but now im struggling to progress 8s from 140kg when i managed 12x137.5kg and a 170kg single since i did that 7x147.5kg. To make matters worse ive specialised in a bad way on stufpid f&*Kn squats and been completely sedentary and eating like a godamn fatty to boot.

the ebbs and flows of human performance.

it's possible that you're still not recovered from the 170kg PR.

additionally, your knees seem to be jacked up & your fitness seems awful. i'd personally dial back squats considerably until your knees feel good. your knees shouldn't be hurting/achy from daily squatting (or squatting in general) like you mentioned a few days ago - that's probably a sign that something has gone wrong.

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re knees, i think it was the daily heavy squatting (for me that was 157.5kg-170kg) daily last week. since i laid off heavy singles knees feel okay. I rested completely today, only did 2 sets with the empty bar and came home. Going to go hard tmr .. i may not get to 8x150kg after all .. ive run out of time and squats are taking too long to recover and progress now, might just accept where im at now and change focus????????

another thing i forgot to mention .. lately my knee sleeves feel very tight around my legs. i wont speculate on why that is .. but it's definitely noticeable now. funny when i started daily squatting i used to chalk my knees and the insides of the knee sleeves so they wouldn't slide around lol. they were just that loose, esp after using them daily and i didnt know how to care for neoprene so i machine washed and sun dried them a few times before realising that ruins the material.  now i dont need to use any chalk and i cud probably use more mobility if anything but even when my legs get sweaty they stay stuck in place.
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Re: chasing athleticism
« Reply #4679 on: March 09, 2019, 05:49:35 am »
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Bball update!

I played 1v1 with a 52 year old HUMAN, much more skilled the 62 year old who defeated me a few days ago (ie the old man game of the meme above). I'm sure if he didnt have such an impressive tan he'd still be really good. 52 year old though. I was able to win but he was much better at basketball. he was sinking 1 handed 3 pointers and posting me up without any trouble. but my jumper was on and he even complimented how nice my form was. i did drive on him a few times just to practice and i cud do that with ease .. now i wanna try against younger guys lol. I posted him up once and i must have stronger than i think cos i cud man handle him. Also the funny thing is he was wearing a Manu Ginobili singlet so im sure he has a soft spot for us lefties .. we do look pretty i know .. come to think of it he didn't contest a single of my jumpers .. no wonder i hit them all. anywayyyyyyy

altho i will add that apparently he had been playing since 11am .. and i got there around 4pm .. so all things considered .. i was fresh and he was spent. i still suck .. but i suck a little less than i did a few days ago.

tldr: from losing to a 62 yaer old .. i beat a 52 year old 3 days later. this is progress ..
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