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Re: FP's log
« Reply #540 on: September 12, 2017, 10:23:16 am »
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Who negged me? how can you neg such an honest and true post.

I did.
You called people 'degenerate animals' just because they like to celebrate a good ankle breaker and you don't.
For fuck's sake!!!
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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« Reply #541 on: September 13, 2017, 05:08:34 am »
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Nothing to disagree there man, I didn't disagree in the first place either, i despise this yelling cult myself too. The neg was for the phrase.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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« Reply #542 on: September 13, 2017, 12:50:46 pm »
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future michigan and now lions QB jake rudock. adarq knew him back when!

lool. haven't spoken to him since the day I finally quit MSC, got convinced to stay, then got fired, all in one day! :trollface:

ya he was serious: intelligent, dedicated, and talented. not surprised to see him make it into the league. he'll probably do something once he gets a real shot in the regular season, always seemed like an "NFL QB" type to me when he was in college etc. who knows though, NFL is incredibly competitive, amazing athletes.

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« Reply #543 on: September 15, 2017, 12:00:25 am »
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adarq those are great for reaction defense but i was thinking more field vision and being aware of more things going on. When I play shutdown defense I am completely tunneled on covering my guy. However when I am mismatched or playing zone, I can play more loose and look around periodically to see how my teammates are doing and people's positioning. If I am really aware and prepared, seeing a lot of the field, I will be able to generate poach D's much more. I need to keep tabs on EVERYBODIES habits (biggest thing I need to work on), and recognize when I am in position to poach.

Tourney this weekend robbed me of my homework time so I had to work extra hard to catch up. This week definitely felt a lot easier despite being just as much work but I had shit time for workouts.

Knee swelling back down to moderate, however I do have some pain rotating my ankle out. Scheduled checkup with da doc tomorrow so we'll see what he says. Will schedule follow-up MRI and decide on getting surgery or not.

9/14
2 hrs practice
I didn't bring cleats so I just threw most of the time and took it easy during pickup. Early practices are kinda meh cause it's just meeting/teaching rookies

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« Reply #544 on: September 15, 2017, 01:17:44 am »
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film study like this guy did can help: https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/14398550/ZHANG-SENIORTHESIS-2015.pdf?sequence=1

football is all about film study, both to study an opposing team's tendencies and to learn concepts. ultimate should be no different. watch some MLU or AUDL games very closely, for example by following around players who are similar to you but better (tall, not handlers) and noting where they are and what they do throughout each point they play. where are they looking? when on D, if they're in man, and they probably are, who are they marking, where are they relative to their guy, and when do they leave their guy if ever?

i've been out of the game for a while and was never elite, so my awareness of who's on top now is limited. but you should be aware of or be able to find out quickly who's a tall D-line cutter on DC Current or DC Breeze, and MLU and AUDL actually do a pretty okay job filming their games. limited camera angles but that's actually good because there's usually a pretty wide view.

the comparable-but-better player who comes right to mind is will neff, who i played with a little bit in college (the one year he and i overlapped at michigan, but i played B* so we were only on the field together for a fall tournament and in practices). not sure how much good footage there is online of ironside but it's worth looking. he's a beast.

*if i had my life to do over again, one of the things i'd change is getting way more disciplined about ultimate way earlier. another is breaking things off with my freshman year of college gf way earlier than i did. god that was a bad relationship. what were we talking about again? oh right. i'll never be more than, well, a fast and explosive donkey, but i have the raw tools to be a good handler and serviceable cutter. athleticism at the bottom end of elite rosters was never out of reach if i'd just bothered to spend more time getting skilled and getting in awesome shape. i envy you discovering and dedicating yourself to it at your age.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2017, 01:26:47 am by LBSS »
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Re: FP's log
« Reply #545 on: September 15, 2017, 05:59:30 pm »
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film study like this guy did can help: https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/14398550/ZHANG-SENIORTHESIS-2015.pdf?sequence=1

football is all about film study, both to study an opposing team's tendencies and to learn concepts. ultimate should be no different. watch some MLU or AUDL games very closely, for example by following around players who are similar to you but better (tall, not handlers) and noting where they are and what they do throughout each point they play. where are they looking? when on D, if they're in man, and they probably are, who are they marking, where are they relative to their guy, and when do they leave their guy if ever?

i've been out of the game for a while and was never elite, so my awareness of who's on top now is limited. but you should be aware of or be able to find out quickly who's a tall D-line cutter on DC Current or DC Breeze, and MLU and AUDL actually do a pretty okay job filming their games. limited camera angles but that's actually good because there's usually a pretty wide view.

the comparable-but-better player who comes right to mind is will neff, who i played with a little bit in college (the one year he and i overlapped at michigan, but i played B* so we were only on the field together for a fall tournament and in practices). not sure how much good footage there is online of ironside but it's worth looking. he's a beast.

*if i had my life to do over again, one of the things i'd change is getting way more disciplined about ultimate way earlier. another is breaking things off with my freshman year of college gf way earlier than i did. god that was a bad relationship. what were we talking about again? oh right. i'll never be more than, well, a fast and explosive donkey, but i have the raw tools to be a good handler and serviceable cutter. athleticism at the bottom end of elite rosters was never out of reach if i'd just bothered to spend more time getting skilled and getting in awesome shape. i envy you discovering and dedicating yourself to it at your age.

Some good stuff here. Definitely a lot of benefit to be gained from film study, especially figuring out spots to poach from. It will be pretty different though, nationals level teams playstyle is barely comparable to regionals level. And AUDL has 10Y extra field width.

The big thing for me is to keep tabs on players on opposing teams bad habits that I can take advantage of, and I would need a lot of mental presence and organization to be constantly tracking the disc, matchups, field positioning so I can poach
« Last Edit: September 15, 2017, 06:04:55 pm by Final Phenom »

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Re: FP's log
« Reply #546 on: September 17, 2017, 10:05:21 pm »
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9/15
30 min jog, low-moderate intensity

Met with ortho knee doc. Swelling is no big deal apparently and unless I have new symptoms, I don't need a follow-up MRI

9/16
2 hours frisbee golf w/ 3 discs ~200 throws
hill sprints knee
Chin ups 4x8, 1x5
10 mins stretching

9/17
2 hours pickup, moderate-high intensity: knee swelling same before+after which is really good.
1 hour walk
10 mins stretching

Didn't have a lot of homework this weekend so I'm actually kind of disappointed with the total workout volume because I had a lot of time. Depending on knee might try to get a good maintenance session 3pm after classes tomorrow + practice at 9pm, before which I might do some sprints and jumps. I also have practice Wed, Thurs

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« Reply #547 on: September 18, 2017, 01:28:57 pm »
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9/15
30 min jog, low-moderate intensity

Met with ortho knee doc. Swelling is no big deal apparently and unless I have new symptoms, I don't need a follow-up MRI

awesome, that is great news.

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9/16
2 hours frisbee golf w/ 3 discs ~200 throws
hill sprints knee
Chin ups 4x8, 1x5
10 mins stretching

9/17
2 hours pickup, moderate-high intensity: knee swelling same before+after which is really good.
1 hour walk
10 mins stretching

Didn't have a lot of homework this weekend so I'm actually kind of disappointed with the total workout volume because I had a lot of time. Depending on knee might try to get a good maintenance session 3pm after classes tomorrow + practice at 9pm, before which I might do some sprints and jumps. I also have practice Wed, Thurs

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« Reply #548 on: September 19, 2017, 11:29:54 pm »
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9/19
knee swelling: 2.5/10 w/ ibuprofen

2 hour practice, 6/10 intensity

9/20
knee swelling: 3/10 w/ ibuprofen

~40 jumps mix
RL-DLRVJ, right arm: 33.5" (max height from 3 steps)
LR-DLRVJ, right arm: 32" (max height from 2 steps)
SVJ, right arm: 31"
R-SLRVJ, left arm: 30" (max height from 3 steps)
L-SLRVJ, right arm: 29" (max height from runup)
R-SLRVJ, right arm: 28" (max height from 3 steps)
L-SLRVJ, left arm: 26.5" (max height from runup)

These are all pretty low

So apparently regionals is this weekend, so I crammed in some jumps. Practice tomorrow and Thursday depending on knee. Will try to set up some 50-50's +defensive drills on thursday. 1/4 of the players from our first regionals game are on the pro team from Pittsburgh. Great opportunity for some feedback

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« Reply #549 on: September 20, 2017, 12:42:52 am »
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why not rest in advance of regionals and try to get knee as near 100% as possible before you play? incremental improvement at practice between now and then likely to be minimal, not worth the risk.
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« Reply #550 on: September 20, 2017, 01:42:59 am »
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I'll have Friday off and I'll closely be monitoring my knee swelling after today's practice, which will decide if I go to practice on Thursday or not. Pickup game on Sunday and Monday practice had very little effect on my knee so I'm not sure it's a problem at all.

And I kind of disagree with you about pre-tournament week training. I think this is the most important time to be getting reps in, those 50-50s will be key if I manage to set them up because I don't get a lot of opportunities to practice them. I don't think I've had any significant air battles this entire season and I modify my in-game playstyle to avoid them (because they are risky) which means I might be kind of rusty in terms of air game. These 50-50s will let me know where I'm at when matched with someone my height+jumping ability so I can adjust my game plan accordingly. Throws should also be peaked out as well as defensive positioning and cutting routes. It doesn't matter how good you were a week ago it matters how good you are right now, and last minute SPP is critical IMO
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« Reply #551 on: September 23, 2017, 03:05:06 pm »
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I'll have Friday off and I'll closely be monitoring my knee swelling after today's practice, which will decide if I go to practice on Thursday or not. Pickup game on Sunday and Monday practice had very little effect on my knee so I'm not sure it's a problem at all.

And I kind of disagree with you about pre-tournament week training. I think this is the most important time to be getting reps in, those 50-50s will be key if I manage to set them up because I don't get a lot of opportunities to practice them. I don't think I've had any significant air battles this entire season and I modify my in-game playstyle to avoid them (because they are risky) which means I might be kind of rusty in terms of air game. These 50-50s will let me know where I'm at when matched with someone my height+jumping ability so I can adjust my game plan accordingly. Throws should also be peaked out as well as defensive positioning and cutting routes. It doesn't matter how good you were a week ago it matters how good you are right now, and last minute SPP is critical IMO

ya i'm def on the last minute SPP boat.

LBSS's point, without this portion "incremental improvement at practice between now and then likely to be minimal," makes more sense regarding the knee IMHO, because I don't think FP would be looking for improvements in this week, just trying to stay sharp. But LBSS's concern also makes sense, it just sucks knowing you have to weigh these trade offs because of knee inflammation.

so ya, staying sharp without aggravating the knee, and even better - facilitating recovery to get it as close to 100% as possible, seems like the ideal situation.. that sh*t is definitely tricky though.

also, if FP hasn't been doing some of those types of movements in games, but expects to do some of them in some of these regional games, getting just a little bit of it in prior, could help along the injury prevention route .. just giving his body those looks before hand, and not spur of the moment at competition intensity, could help a little.

reducing the volume on things like jumps and/or not truly trying to max them out would be one of my first moves.. those damn landings are intense.

regionals popped up quick! hope you're killing it man.

peace!

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« Reply #552 on: September 23, 2017, 11:14:49 pm »
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So we only stuck around for day one and we lost all 3 of our games.. but we were the lowest seeded team in the kill pool and the team closest to our seeding ended up upsetting a really good team. So can't complain

Captain was playing pretty loose lines so everyone got playing time, I didn't get to play much more than anyone else. It went pretty good, was working on trying to set up poach D's but my timing still isn't quite right and these teams are just too high level.. We played the #24 and #25 seeded teams in the nation which is something. Still managed to rack up a few D's mostly from blocks and I think 2G/2A? Out of the 16 total points we scored that's pretty decent and mostly playing D line. Nothing really hype a few pretty good toe-the-line plays.

Knee feels good, working on my new training plan for fall. Will likely be focusing mostly on change of direction, jumps, top speed in that order. Lifting will be on maintenance, will probably be hitting the weights hard again come winter

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« Reply #553 on: September 24, 2017, 11:34:24 pm »
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9/23 (post tourney)

1-3 step DLRVJ x 10
full runup DLVRVJ x15

9/24

Maintenance Lifts

Squat: knee

BP:
135 x8,8
175 x4,5

RDL:
225x8
275 3x8

Captains chair (dead stop at bottom) 90s rest:
1x20
+5lb ankle weights 3x20 +20 BW (30s rest)

SS x2:
-Shuffle+banded palloff press: x8/ side
-med ball diagonal swings 12lbs x10/ side
-side plank with leg raise: 15s/ side

Pullups: 5,8,6 (kind of wiped)

Technique on all big lifts pretty shoddy. RDL strength noticeable drop but hopefully more because of technique

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« Reply #554 on: September 26, 2017, 08:46:10 pm »
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9/25
SIJ kind of janky, hip flexors sore

Got together with a teammate before practice and did some route running and 1v1's for ~45 mins,
followed by a pretty chill ~2 hour practice

9/27
Hip flexors very tight

3/4 squat knee, could there be an additional problem besides the swelling? Besides squatting, nothing seems affected.

Weighted Pullups:
BWx5
+25lbs x5,5,4

Skater hops explosive rebound + stick:
2x8 /side
3x5 /side

SS x3:
-Landmines anti-rotation: light bar+45 x10, bar+55 x8, bar+65 x8
-Waiter carries: 45lbs 3x 45s walk+ 15s shuffles /side

SS x3:
-Low box shuffles: 3x20
-Band horizontal back adduction: 3x10

Lat Pulldowns (60s rests):
50x8, 60x8,7

SS x3 (90s rests):
-Ab wheel x12
-Feet supported russian twists x30s
-Side plank +35lbs x45s /side

Low narrow grip Rows (60s rests):
70 x8
60 2x8