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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #255 on: July 07, 2010, 11:32:23 am »
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true that... but the only thing i got was my reach, which is a pathetic 220cm.

sucks that i got the short straw haha, born short, with short fingers.  >:(



OK , 220 reach means ~ 17cm hands ( maybe less ).
So wrist would be about 203cm.

How high was the rim?
If it was 305cm ( regulation , 10' ) , you jumped 102cm a little bit above 40'' , lets say 40''
If it was 303cm ( 9'11'' ) , you jumped ~39''
If it was 300cm ( 9'10'' ) , you jumped ~38''
And so on...

Huge PR and great jump anyway , congrats... ;)
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #256 on: July 07, 2010, 11:42:00 am »
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thanks...

hahaha, ur the visual vertec!

im stoked i finally got something to show for it man...

been working my balls off in the gym, and the recent lack of results was really disappointing..
hopefully i can dunk one pretty soon.
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #257 on: July 07, 2010, 02:43:40 pm »
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heh heh heh.......

replaced the workout today with the weekday league game.
its the court where i took my vid. think previous best there was abit of palm. this court is higher than the other one, where i got my entire palm over... so translated over, that jump would probably be about somewhere on my palm.

but today... i got my entire palm over at the higher rim as well!
definitely a pr, not sure how much though. if that estimation by vag earlier, of 3 inches above equals to abt 35 inch... this should be about about a 39... but if thats pushing it, a 38 should be pretty safe.

my planting definitely needs some work. all the time, i was trying to be really forceful and aggresive in the plant, trying to put my strength to use. but the pr jump came when the jump was kinda relaxed, like the plant wasnt really aggressive, more like a smooth jump.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

fuck ya man!

i just woke up and this made my day/week already :D

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #258 on: July 07, 2010, 03:23:53 pm »
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adarq, what phase of the training am i at now?

you are in a peaking phase after a non-concentrated/very low frequency strength block (1x/week strength block for N weeks).... that is NOT ideal in any sense.. typically you want to be lifting at least 2x/week during the strength block prior to entering this peaking bloc.

in the peaking block all we're trying to do is maintain strength while reducing overall fatigue, so that we can try to PR our jumps.. we're doing that by using squat singles/REA's to really focus on teaching the body to give everything in one effort, not multiple efforts in a row (which when peaking, can cause "starting strength" / rate force development to occur slower).

ideally, after our peaking block, we'd perform a GPP block, with the intended focus of adding muscle/increasing work capacity.. GPP usually should have ~4+ training sessions per week, so, given your previous ability to train only 1x in the weightroom, then i'd imagine if you wanted to do a proper GPP we'd have to throw in a few intense bodyweight lifting/sprinting/jumping sessions throughout the week..

it usually goes like this:

GPP
- ~4 or more days per week of lifting, focus on volume, lots of exercise variety
- ~8 weeks

STRENGTH
- ~2-3x per week of lifting, focusing on moderate volume with heavy lifting, exercise variety becomes more specific, get back to plyos/rea's etc
- ~4-8 weeks

PEAK
- ~2-3x per week of lifting, focusing on intensity with low volume lifting, exercise variety is very specific, increase intensity of plyos/rea's, take extra rest days if needed prior to max jumping/sprinting sessions
- ~4-6 weeks

that's just a quick run down.. hope that helps!


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was listening in to Jack's audio convo with that explosive edge guy. u were mentioned in that audio interview as well.
they were saying how it might not be that important per se, getting strength levels up, beyond like 2X bw or something.

thing was, they also didnt say what was needed haha...


lol.. jack puts out nice interviews.. there's a nice convo about it on TVS, http://theverticalsummit.com/viewtopic.php?t=4124&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=200

starts somewhere in July with woodrup posting the interview url.

Check my posts on there, you'll see my stance & kellyb's on the topics that were covered, very briefly, as well as explosive edge's/jack woodrup's.

peace man!!!!!


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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #259 on: July 07, 2010, 06:16:39 pm »
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hell man, i was beginning to think that i just wasnt destined to at least dunk once haha... just glad that something good happened at least once... need to work on my runup/planting!


lifting up to 4x a week in a strength block...  :o
i dun think i could handle that, i meaning squatting a few times a week!

i was asking that cos i dun see u prescribing me those jumping type exercises like lateral jumps and the like...

if thats the case... the current season should be winding up in 2 weeks, afterwhich is a month's break, before the next season.

we'll be doing this peaking thing for a week or 2, after which we're gonna start with blocks of GPP and strength/explosiveness work?

can each block be shortened to say abt 3 weeks or so? i'll confirm how many times a week i can workout! :)
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #260 on: July 07, 2010, 07:22:16 pm »
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hell man, i was beginning to think that i just wasnt destined to at least dunk once haha... just glad that something good happened at least once... need to work on my runup/planting!

ya man the power is there.. you're really strong right now so..

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lifting up to 4x a week in a strength block...  :o
i dun think i could handle that, i meaning squatting a few times a week!

you misread, I wrote 2-3x per week for strength block :D .. plus some of those can be upper body sessions etc.


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i was asking that cos i dun see u prescribing me those jumping type exercises like lateral jumps and the like...

if thats the case... the current season should be winding up in 2 weeks, afterwhich is a month's break, before the next season.

we'll be doing this peaking thing for a week or 2, after which we're gonna start with blocks of GPP and strength/explosiveness work?

well ya, it would be good to start GPP during that month's break.. that would really allow you to make some good gains in work capacity and setup a better strength/peaking block the next time we do it..

we could modify it a bit so that you're still trying to PR on jumps during the GPP block..

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can each block be shortened to say abt 3 weeks or so? i'll confirm how many times a week i can workout! :)

well, that would lead to a less than optimal cycle.. why 3 week blocks? I personally think we should go:
- GPP : 8 weeks
- STRENGTH : 4 weeks
- PEAK: 4-6 weeks

If you can't do gpp when season starts, then we could definitely do it like:
- GPP : 4 weeks
- STRENGTH: 4 weeks
- PEAK : 4 weeks

we'd have to really work hard as hell during the GPP though, alot of volume.. but it's not as bad as you think, you get used to it :D

peace man

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #261 on: July 09, 2010, 01:56:20 am »
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hmmm... so what are those lateral hop things for? i dun see u prescribing me exotic BW stuff like that haha!

lemme get back to u re the schedule eh?

- GPP : 8 weeks
- STRENGTH : 4 weeks
- PEAK: 4-6 weeks

if this is what is required, then fuck, lets do it.
would i be able to recover in time for the weekend game during my GPP phase?

the travelling time to the company gym is a bitch, so imma go look at the gym memberships near my place...
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #262 on: July 09, 2010, 06:15:43 am »
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hmmm... so what are those lateral hop things for? i dun see u prescribing me exotic BW stuff like that haha!

well i didn't have a good grasp on your training/job/basketball so i mostly just helped you setup those 1x/week workouts.. but now i have a much better grasp on it so, come GPP time for next training cycle you'll be doing lots of that stuff!

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lemme get back to u re the schedule eh?

- GPP : 8 weeks
- STRENGTH : 4 weeks
- PEAK: 4-6 weeks

if this is what is required, then fuck, lets do it.
would i be able to recover in time for the weekend game during my GPP phase?

the travelling time to the company gym is a bitch, so imma go look at the gym memberships near my place...

ya you'd be able to recover by the weekend for sure..

if money is an issue or anything like that, then we can setup a GPP that has 1x/week lifting like you normally do, but with other days being very intense bodyweight/force absorption/low level plyo stuff etc.. so don't freak out, do what is comfortable, we can design an effective under either circumstance.. i prefer more lifting as it will be able to lead to more lean mass gain, but again, do what's comfortable and i will design a full GPP /strength/peak phase for this upcoming training cycle.

the only thing that would stay the same regardless of your gym access would be how many weeks each phase would be..

peace mang!

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #263 on: July 09, 2010, 09:51:18 pm »
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adarq week 7: fri

AD warmup
Prehab

Depth jumps
18" x 10
24" x 10

REA squats
5 x 3 x 80kg

Squats
8 singles x 120kg

cycled thru the following so each column is 1 set.

pullups 17, 15, 12
dips 20, 20, 20
back ext 15, 15, 15

leg raises
3 x 15
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #264 on: July 09, 2010, 09:58:20 pm »
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ooh... we'll see abt the next part of the journey i suppose.

its more an issue with the time needed. the gym's having a pretty good promo, so prices are good.
the money i spend on transport would be comparable to the fees for the gym near home.
its just that im used to the company gym, or rather i make a nuisance of myself there and they dun really mind, cos we sorta chummy with everyone else. i mean, i go kinda apeshit trying to psyche myself up before a near limit lift.

and even more so, cos im really hoping this next round will be really good, im preparing to really concentrate and go full blast on it, lifting once or thrice a week, whatever is needed, just doing what is optimal. just that, well, work and school comes into the picture. u tell me what i should do, and i'll see if i can work the job and sch around it haha.

thank goodness im at my last couple of modules, so it should be relatively easier on the school front.
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #265 on: July 09, 2010, 10:51:02 pm »
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haha, now that ur also online adarq, its sat morning, abt 11am now.
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #266 on: July 09, 2010, 11:03:14 pm »
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haha, now that ur also online adarq, its sat morning, abt 11am now.

hhaha! i need to get a singapore clock on my widgets..

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #267 on: July 09, 2010, 11:25:04 pm »
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ooh... we'll see abt the next part of the journey i suppose.

its more an issue with the time needed. the gym's having a pretty good promo, so prices are good.
the money i spend on transport would be comparable to the fees for the gym near home.
its just that im used to the company gym, or rather i make a nuisance of myself there and they dun really mind, cos we sorta chummy with everyone else. i mean, i go kinda apeshit trying to psyche myself up before a near limit lift.

and even more so, cos im really hoping this next round will be really good, im preparing to really concentrate and go full blast on it, lifting once or thrice a week, whatever is needed, just doing what is optimal. just that, well, work and school comes into the picture. u tell me what i should do, and i'll see if i can work the job and sch around it haha.

thank goodness im at my last couple of modules, so it should be relatively easier on the school front.

ah..well, you won't need to be psyching yourself up during GPP, so at least for that block you wouldn't need that kind of gym.. I personally think you should get gym access where you can go multiple times per week, and it's very convenient for you to get there.. so ya, new gym sounds like the way to go, but you could still use your other gym once in a while, especially when you're going more intense during strength block.

convenient access to gym = best bet.. you can get in there multiple times per week, and it doesn't take forever getting there.

peace mang

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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #268 on: July 11, 2010, 05:41:01 am »
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hey adarq, whats this week's work?
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Re: from bull to beast, hopefully...
« Reply #269 on: July 11, 2010, 05:59:41 am »
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hey adarq, whats this week's work?

did you do anything saturday, like jumps/bball? ya man i will upload your week tomorrow when i wakeup.. so like 3pm EST, which is early by your time for what i remember..

how you feeling etc?