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Title: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 08, 2019, 06:19:51 am
Hi all,
I'm Russell. I found this forum a week ago or so from searching articles/videos on how to increase vertical leap. I am posting a public video to show I'm not lying about things and future video's will document my progress. Due to my weight, I tried a vertical leap in my apartment, and upon landing, it hurt. I'm guessing my vertical leap is about 12 inches now. When I played playground basketball in the 1980's and early 90's my vertical was somewhere around 31 to 33 inches. I was just about 1/2 inch shy of being able to dunk on a 10 foot rim. I could dunk on a 9' 11" rim though.

Here's the link to my video's of my start to improve my health, and my invention of a hand spread stretcher.

https://youtu.be/oHjt3MDpSn0

https://youtu.be/8JtQiu4PHqE
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: LBSS on December 08, 2019, 07:23:34 am
welcome. what are your goals, specifically? lose inches off the waistline? jump higher? get back into pickup ball or get better at it?
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 08, 2019, 09:59:04 am
Hi LBSS

I'm wanting to get back into shape to play some basketball. Also, I had a former neighbor who was older than me, but she was so obese she could hardly walk and had to use one of those walkers to hold on to, to help her walk and not fall down. Her age was probably late 60's. I need to lose weight so as not to end up like her.

But there is more. I scoured the internet for articles on increasing vertical leap. I'm not disputing that those methods don't work, but many of those exercises that involve jumping like weighted squat jumps, box jumps etc.. These exercises are hard on the knees. I have developed a theory about how one simple exercise that does not  involve your feet leaving the floor, (like jumping hard 200 times a day). I searched the internet to see if anyone else has published an exercise like I just started doing, but I could not find anything like it. I will not reveal what the simple exercise is, because the exercise only takes about 15 minutes to do, and you do it 3 times a week. If my theory works and I can increase my vertical to be able to dunk on a 10 foot rim at 60 years of age, within one year of starting this exercise, would you consider that something extremely valuable?

I recently found an article from 1987 describing Karl Malone's strength training program. https://www.si.com/vault/1987/11/09/116554/lets-get-physical-finesse-is-taking-a-backseat-as-teams-vie-with-each-other-to-get-the-big-bangers-who-can-tough-it-out-under-the-basket    The article stated he lifted weights for 4 hours a day. I am not dissing him as a respected Hall of Fame player. But was his success on the basketball court due to weight lifting 4 hours a day? I don't think so. He could have lifted weights one hour a day and still be a Hall of Fame player. Did his lifting program get him a 45 inch vertical leap? No.

I am looking to disprove the notion that extreme exercise efforts is required to develop a high vertical leap. I'm going to video record everything I do and date stamp when it was recorded. Most of the video's will remain private. I will make public, video's of my weight loss at first. And later when I lose enough weight to jump higher, (as I am right now too heavy to do jumping) I will post those video's public.

If it doesn't work and I'm wrong, then I guess I'll fade away and disappear in time.

Sorry for the long post. Thank you for asking that question.

Let me add that my weight loss efforts are paying off. I've lost some 28 lbs since mid August.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 08, 2019, 12:01:59 pm
My current hand spread. Right hand, 9.25 inches. Left hand 9.0 inches. I'll try my hand spreader everyday for a few months and see what happens. Unable to post photo as file size limit is exceeded.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: LBSS on December 08, 2019, 01:30:54 pm
fascinating. seems unlikely that you have unlocked a secret to jump training that went undiscovered or undeveloped by generations of professionals, and i'd say that it's impossible to get really good at jumping without, well, jumping, but who knows? i hope you're right. if you figure out how to dunk at 60 years of age, with your current state being "unable to jump 12 inches without hurting knees," then hell yeah i'd consider that valuable.

in any case, good work on losing all that weight so far and good luck on continuing to get in shape.

side note: it's funny that you'd point to karl malone, who had a 28" standing vertical (i.e. ~4" worse than mine when i was training for it; i am not a super athlete) and wasn't exactly known as an above-the-rim player. whatever training he did worked for him like gangbusters.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 08, 2019, 07:44:20 pm
My current hand spread. Right hand, 9.25 inches. Left hand 9.0 inches. I'll try my hand spreader everyday for a few months and see what happens. Unable to post photo as file size limit is exceeded.

why do u need hand stretcher. 9 inches is huge hands. i have 7 in length hands that are similar to woman size hands and i can ball just fine with D1 competition.

and i dont see how that can POSSIBLY work and make your hands bigger.
Article about importance of hand spread in the NFL.   https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2014/02/nfl_combine_how_do_you_measure.html
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 08, 2019, 08:21:58 pm
fascinating. seems unlikely that you have unlocked a secret to jump training that went undiscovered or undeveloped by generations of professionals, and i'd say that it's impossible to get really good at jumping without, well, jumping, but who knows? i hope you're right. if you figure out how to dunk at 60 years of age, with your current state being "unable to jump 12 inches without hurting knees," then hell yeah i'd consider that valuable.

in any case, good work on losing all that weight so far and good luck on continuing to get in shape.

side note: it's funny that you'd point to karl malone, who had a 28" standing vertical (i.e. ~4" worse than mine when i was training for it; i am not a super athlete) and wasn't exactly known as an above-the-rim player. whatever training he did worked for him like gangbusters.


I'll try and see if it works. I worked out for 15 minutes today and it felt good. Much easier on the knees. In fact, so easy, I may try it every day instead of Monday, then Wendesday, then Friday. My theory about the method I am employing is based on logic that persons with exercise science degree's already know how to it, but do not recognize it. I have a friend who has that degree from OSU and am thinking about asking her if she agreed to keep my explanation confidential, I would tell her what I do and ask her thoughts about it. It is so stupidly simple, I could explain it in a few sentences, and the logic of it would be perfectly clear. This is why I will not reveal any info that may give it away, it is so simple to understand. Just to repeat. I am only doing one exercise, and it only takes 15 minutes to do. No upper body exercise at all, and no jumping at all.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 08, 2019, 08:29:14 pm
Could someone please explain how to add a respect point to another persons comment? I can't find out how to do that. Thank you.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: adarqui on December 08, 2019, 11:38:38 pm
welcome (again).

if you can get it done (dunk at 60) that'd be some pretty impressive stuff. going to be very tough, but who knows. regardless, could improve strength & body composition considerably as part of the journey.

just be careful getting back into jumping IMHO (in my humble opinion). don't rush that, and perhaps do your jumps on a good wooden springy gym floor - not concrete for example.

i do like this sentence: "I am looking to disprove the notion that extreme exercise efforts is required to develop a high vertical leap."

achieving higher performance with less extreme efforts would be nice. extreme efforts would be after one has reached the advanced stages though, after many years of training. at that point, some of the methodologies used & intensities of workouts can be quite high, which does carry more risk.

i'm personally not a big fan of "top secret" stuff. to me it'd make more sense to "disclose" the exercise, and if it makes sense, other people can try it as well etc. even if people didn't believe in it or try it etc, if you do, that's all that really matters. belief systems are very important. all good tho.

Could someone please explain how to add a respect point to another persons comment? I can't find out how to do that. Thank you.

it's just the up vote on each post. that'll do it.

pc
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 09, 2019, 01:43:45 pm
I've done my exercise for 15 minutes for 2 days now and I am feeling really good. Both my physical and mental well being have improved. Tomorrow, if it's not raining, I'm going to walk to my nearby playground court and measure the rim height and the distance between my standing reach and the rim. I'll take my recently purchased basketball and shoot some hoops. Last time I played a game of ball with friends was sometime around 1993.

I will reveal a reason why I am overweight. I developed a serious health problem in 1987, and the med to treat it causes weight gain. When I started taking the med, I was a muscular 185 lbs. I used to lift weights. By 2005, my weight was 285 lbs. The heaviest I've ever weighed. The med has to be taken for the rest of my life, so I am fighting the side affect of weight gain as I try to lose and get into better shape. I would love to get down to 200 lbs if possible. I've been below 250 lbs for the last 3 days now. So progress is being made.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 09, 2019, 04:19:28 pm
Anybody on this site purchase "The Mythbuster" (Jordan Kilgannon) tutorial on jumping higher? Just curious.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 09, 2019, 04:38:39 pm
Is this real?, or a scam? If it was real, wouldn't everybody be doing it?

https://www.vertshock.com/
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: CoolColJ on December 10, 2019, 01:51:25 am
there are no secrets in the world of jumping.
If you look around, a lot of the Pro Dunkers lift weights - how much force you put into the ground is helped by having larger and stronger legs and hips, if your not born with them naturally

If you think about throwing an object as heavy as your body into the air, how would you improve that ability?
Easy, get a lot stronger so the body is relatively easy to fling around.
For the same reasons shotputters build a big bench press, yet the human body is far heavier than a shotput!

If you have to buy a product, I would recommend Vertical Jump Bible by Kelly Baggett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUQy0ont5Pk



Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 10, 2019, 03:26:32 am
there are no secrets in the world of jumping.
If you look around, a lot of the Pro Dunkers lift weights - how much force you put into the ground is helped by having larger and stronger legs and hips, if your not born with them naturally

If you think about throwing an object as heavy as your body into the air, how would you improve that ability?
Easy, get a lot stronger so the body is relatively easy to fling around.
For the same reasons shotputters build a big bench press, yet the human body is far heavier than a shotput!

If you have to buy a product, I would recommend Vertical Jump Bible by Kelly Baggett.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUQy0ont5Pk
Thank you for your comment, and being civil with it. I appreciate you didn't mock me or anything like that.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 10, 2019, 03:47:54 am
Just found this article on vertical leap and here is the age related vertical leap levels.
The link is here:   http://www.homeexerciseequipmenthq.com/average-vertical-jump/


Vertical Leap by Age

When it comes to the human body, one thing that everyone goes through is aging. With age, things change, including how our muscles perform. During our younger years, they are still developing all the way until we get to our 20’s and until just past 30 years old.

After that, the development stops and starts to go the other way.

The changes in our bodies muscles also show in average leaping ability as we age. During the younger years we develop and then start slowing down.

The chart below shows the average vertical leap by age for men.
        Age   Average Vertical       
      18 to 20 years old   19.5 inches      
      20 to 29 years old   20 inches      
      30 to 39 years old   17 inches      
      40 to 49 years old   14 inches      
      50 to 59 years old   11 inches
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 11, 2019, 07:20:55 am
Weight loss down to 244.6 lbs since starting this thread weighing 249.8 lbs.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: adarqui on December 11, 2019, 11:41:04 pm
yeah man body comp is so important for most people. improve that and vert should improve along with it.

pc!
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 11, 2019, 11:51:53 pm
In my newly posted video, stop it at :57. The blurry blue container with the pillow on top contains my workout equipment. Everything inside it can be purchased at Walmart.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 12, 2019, 12:24:29 pm
Just tried a jump on my measure board. The landing was painful. I need to stop doing that until I can drop another 20 lbs.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 13, 2019, 07:22:06 pm
Showed a guy I correspond with my video's and he said my hand spread stretcher looked like a medieval torture device. LOL!
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: adarqui on December 13, 2019, 07:57:05 pm
Using mustard to mark vertical leap board. I'm going to try and measure my leap tomorrow.

https://youtu.be/_CmSRdvpv9Q

wtf. i'd opt for chalk or tape but mustard does work. lmao.



Showed a guy I correspond with my video's and he said my hand spread stretcher looked like a medieval torture device. LOL!

it does.. lol.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 17, 2019, 01:05:40 pm
Hey Andrew. I figured out how to get my account back. I'll be posting new video's soon.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 17, 2019, 01:25:59 pm
December 15 standing vertical leap test. First try. 8.5"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFJ4O56DfWw
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 17, 2019, 01:27:35 pm
Standing vertical leap test 2nd try two days later, December 17, 2019. 10"   

My body weight was the same as the test two days ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_uJgVsc6Us
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: adarqui on December 17, 2019, 10:46:03 pm
Can any of you guy's do this?

https://youtu.be/nxS6nMjhY2Q

only a few on here can windmill like that. basically elite dunker level.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: LBSS on December 18, 2019, 05:28:45 am
Can any of you guy's do this?

https://youtu.be/nxS6nMjhY2Q

lol.

btw the marked cardboard on the wall, smear of mustard on the hand is a genius way to measure vert at home. can't believe i never thought of something like that.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 18, 2019, 06:14:01 am
Can any of you guy's do this?

https://youtu.be/nxS6nMjhY2Q

lol.

btw the marked cardboard on the wall, smear of mustard on the hand is a genius way to measure vert at home. can't believe i never thought of something like that.
I mixed some mustard with pancake mix to make it a paste and see how that works next time.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 18, 2019, 01:00:35 pm
Duh moment on the leap board. Put some blank, white paper on it, and the mustard will show up better.

(https://i.imgur.com/0GlMGcc.jpg)
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 18, 2019, 10:43:17 pm
Overnight weight loss record.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGfnl0_slsY
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: adarqui on December 18, 2019, 11:05:44 pm
Here's the link to my video describing my theory about how to train to improve vertical leap, and exactly how I do it in my small apartment.

If you do heavy dead lifts at home that has a yard, you can use my technique and drop the barbell at the top of the lift on the grass/ground/sand. It would be nice if some younger guy's on this forum to try my technique for a few months and see what happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFWLLTa1Qdw

solid presentation on that video.

the exercise itself looks decent but awkward -> same leg/same arm seems awkward to me. i feel like using opposite arm/leg might feel a bit more stable and allow you to get a "better" angle on the "single leg squat" while holding the db right underneath you. have you tried that? if so: like or dislike it?

if i didn't have barbells/rack etc, i imagine that exercise would have some effectiveness. i'd personally do other stuff as well, not just that exercise.

i did single arm db exercises and found them effective (sl db squat, sl db rdl, sl db bench), but I never did those variations "concentric only" with a drop.

hope your knee is ok.

pc!
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: CoolColJ on December 18, 2019, 11:33:31 pm
Concentric only is similar to sled dragging

But I think without eccentric training, your muscles are not going get much bigger for strength gains that transfer over to non related tasks
And jumping off a run requires ability to absorb very large eccentric forces on the plant and landing



Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 19, 2019, 04:43:43 am
Concentric only is similar to sled dragging

But I think without eccentric training, your muscles are not going get much bigger for strength gains that transfer over to non related tasks
And jumping off a run requires ability to absorb very large eccentric forces on the plant and landing
Hi Cool. Thank you for your comment.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on December 19, 2019, 06:07:17 am
Over night water weight loss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xzHhnD73KE
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on October 04, 2020, 08:08:11 pm
Been a long time since coming to the forum here. Where I live, the Mayor let parks and recreation put the rims back up on the back boards a few weeks ago. I need to go back through the forum here and see what my standing vertical was then. Last time I checked my standing vertical, it was about 16.5". When I first tried the vertical test, I got 8.5 inches. And it hurt on the landing due to too much weight. The only exercise I"m doing now is sled dragging, and running around the open basketball court. I hope the Mayor doesn't close them down again.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on October 04, 2020, 08:14:05 pm
I actually injured my feet by being too aggressive running up hill sprints and sled dragging. Achilles tendonitis, and bruised toe and a cyst.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on October 04, 2020, 08:17:14 pm
Coming back to the forum may help re energize me to keep healthy.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: CoolColJ on October 05, 2020, 12:45:13 am
Achilles issues seem to plague older folks

You will need to slow concentric and eccentric calf work, and Isometrics to fix it over many weeks and months. Both for gastroc and soleus, ie straight legged and bent knee
Rest won't help as tendons need load

Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on October 05, 2020, 08:28:46 am
Achilles issues seem to plague older folks

You will need to slow concentric and eccentric calf work, and Isometrics to fix it over many weeks and months. Both for gastroc and soleus, ie straight legged and bent knee
Rest won't help as tendons need load
I don't have any pain in my Achilles. My doctor was not concerned too much about it as there is no pain. Just got back from sled dragging at my local park. No pain. My case must be a minor one. I have read where it can take months to heal up.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: CoolColJ on October 06, 2020, 12:13:48 am
Achilles issues seem to plague older folks

You will need to slow concentric and eccentric calf work, and Isometrics to fix it over many weeks and months. Both for gastroc and soleus, ie straight legged and bent knee
Rest won't help as tendons need load
I don't have any pain in my Achilles. My doctor was not concerned too much about it as there is no pain. Just got back from sled dragging at my local park. No pain. My case must be a minor one. I have read where it can take months to heal up.

You won't feel it in the tendon itself, just where it attaches to the bone
It's a similar thing with Jumpers knee
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Mutumbo000 on October 06, 2020, 08:28:47 am
X2 be very careful with achilles. My achilles have plagued me for years! I haven't been able to sprint or play organised sport for the last 2 seasons due to fibrosis in my left achilles despite going to physiotherapists, podiatrists and having shock wave therapy and dry needling to my calves etc.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on October 09, 2020, 06:01:30 pm
Any thoughts on using compression socks?
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: CoolColJ on October 11, 2020, 05:32:09 am
Any thoughts on using compression socks?

won't help your issue, but might help your calf muscles
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: CoolColJ on October 15, 2020, 10:30:59 am
here

http://www.runningwritings.com/2013/11/achilles-tendonitis-in-runners.html
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on October 25, 2020, 06:47:33 pm
Forefoot varus is a "tilt" of the metatarsal heads where the outside of your forefoot naturally rests lower than the inside.  The subtalar joint is the main controller of the pronation and supination of your foot—an inward roll (eversion) at the subtalar joint is exactly what a regular runner would call "pronation."

This describes me. I always rolled an ankle several times a year until I bought lace up ankle braces with Velcro strips to keep my feet from pronating upon jumping.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on April 17, 2021, 04:33:49 pm
Coming back here on the forum. Now, 60 years old. Main goal, weight loss and hanging with the young kids on my local BB court. Resuming the sled drag exercise. I'll be back with updates on how it's going with me.

Achilles problem over with. Not as bad as I thought.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: CoolColJ on April 18, 2021, 12:58:27 am
tendon issues are largely due to sudden jumps in loading and volume, so ease back into it and build up slowly over time
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 04, 2021, 10:03:49 am
Hey, got a email, and I came back. Gonna play some basketball later today. :)
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 04, 2021, 03:36:49 pm
(https://i.postimg.cc/7Ld07vMN/Clipboard01.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Glass backboards at my local park.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 06, 2021, 08:58:48 am
(https://i.postimg.cc/MMnRxrWx/sled.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MMnRxrWx)


(https://i.postimg.cc/bJzxwmrq/board.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

My "sled" drag. Not really a sled, but it works to provide resistance running. And my vertical measuring board. I'm terribly out of shape and can only manage a 12" vertical right now. :(
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 09, 2021, 07:34:49 pm
Only managed a 10.5 inch vertical today. Really tired. Did depth jumps and single leg box squats with low weight.

(https://i.imgur.com/zHz4Cfz.jpg)

Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 10, 2021, 02:18:14 pm
Today a new day. Reached 12.25 inches on the standing jump. I'm 260 lbs and 61 years old.

Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 11, 2021, 03:21:58 pm
Any thoughts on Knees over toes guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIngqODw8x4
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 12, 2021, 05:58:23 am
Interesting about Jonathan Edwards. The Olympic Gold medal winner in the triple jump (at 34 years of age!) and his workout routine. He probably had a quite high vertical jump.

https://www.worldathletics.org/download/downloadnsa?filename=eb80bee7-fc04-4af4-9e17-984495be21a4.pdf&urlslug=the-elastic-strength-development-of-jonathan
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 12, 2021, 08:03:43 am
I used to be able to those without assistance and it definitely improved my hamstring strength but was lighter than now I have more weight my strength to weight ratio has gone down. But neglecting other aspects really affected my peformance, I didn't train the quads at all, due to ignorance. I used to do it holding weight too.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 12, 2021, 08:07:30 am
I used to be able to those without assistance and it definitely improved my hamstring strength but was lighter than now I have more weight my strength to weight ratio has gone down. But neglecting other aspects really affected my peformance, I didn't train the quads at all, due to ignorance. I used to do it holding weight too.

Did the ability to do Nordic ham curls help your vertical jump?
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: LBSS on August 12, 2021, 08:24:28 am
a couple people on here swear by knees over toes guy, FWIW.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: CoolColJ on August 12, 2021, 12:03:14 pm
I used to be able to those without assistance and it definitely improved my hamstring strength but was lighter than now I have more weight my strength to weight ratio has gone down. But neglecting other aspects really affected my peformance, I didn't train the quads at all, due to ignorance. I used to do it holding weight too.

Did the ability to do Nordic ham curls help your vertical jump?

There are a few threads here on the Ben Patrick.
I have used a few of his ideas to help fix myself up

In any case Nordics are for injury prevention. It won't help your vertical directly. They are no different from leg curls, and no one ever jumped high from doing them :)
The prime movers for jumping are the quads and glutes

Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: seifullaah73 on August 12, 2021, 12:06:58 pm
I used to be able to those without assistance and it definitely improved my hamstring strength but was lighter than now I have more weight my strength to weight ratio has gone down. But neglecting other aspects really affected my peformance, I didn't train the quads at all, due to ignorance. I used to do it holding weight too.

Did the ability to do Nordic ham curls help your vertical jump?

It never did help my vertical.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 12, 2021, 01:17:19 pm
 
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Did the ability to do Nordic ham curls help your vertical jump?
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In any case Nordics are for injury prevention.
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Injury prevention is a good enough reason for me to do them. I did some yesterday and this morning had hamstring cramps real bad.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: CoolColJ on August 13, 2021, 04:58:53 am
Just make sure your hitting your quads just as hard, or you will blow out your knee
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 13, 2021, 11:59:02 am
I built a slant board as recommended by the kneeovertoesguy, and am going to do squats on that, and do the nordic ham curls also.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 14, 2021, 09:25:44 am
NFL lineman vertical jump at combine.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/02/nfl-combine-320-pound-ol-tristan-wirfs-jumps-higher-than-most-wide-receivers
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 17, 2021, 06:06:31 pm
Oh yea! Just did the ATG split squats (KOTGuy) and nordic ham curls. Excellent leg workout. I'll be doing these 3 times per week. I never did these type exercises before. The nordic I only can do partials for now obviously.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 20, 2021, 04:57:07 pm
More Nordic curls today. I do this setup so I can do full repetitions. Stretch bands to help me do full reps. A short nylon tow strap at the bottom of the door to keep legs down (not pictured).

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Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 29, 2021, 07:36:09 pm
 :(
Bummer. Seems I got mild case of Covid. Started feeling sick this morning. Maybe I can drop a few pounds while sick!

I think I caught it in a taxi. The taxi drivers have their mask below their chin when they don't have a passenger, and put it up when they arrive at my apartment. Defeats the whole purpose of the mask unless the windows are wide open.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 29, 2021, 08:03:28 pm
I went ahead and did some small Nordic curls.

My hams are atrophied real bad.

My goal for the end of the year is to do a half Nordic curl without assistance. :strong:
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: CoolColJ on August 30, 2021, 12:21:08 am
Having COVID is bad long term even if you don't die, I hear many people have long term breathing problems when exercising, even well after recovery
So I would get vaccinated, but it's too late now.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on August 30, 2021, 02:32:51 am
Having COVID is bad long term even if you don't die, I hear many people have long term breathing problems when exercising, even well after recovery
So I would get vaccinated, but it's too late now.
I'm vaccinated also. Fortunately, no breathing problems so far.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on September 01, 2021, 01:27:02 pm
Having COVID is bad long term even if you don't die, I hear many people have long term breathing problems when exercising, even well after recovery
So I would get vaccinated, but it's too late now.
I'm vaccinated also. Fortunately, no breathing problems so far.
My Covid really mild, but still, I have to stay home for 6 more days. I got the Moderna vaccine last April.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on September 08, 2021, 09:01:59 am
I got tested for Covid and didn't have it anyway.

I got to lose weight big time. Going on a 24 hour, zero calorie fast as of now. 9 am where I'm at.
Title: Re: Journal of progress of an old man
Post by: Too_Old on October 17, 2021, 05:54:30 pm
Back. Did Nordic curls for about 90 seconds. That's all I can handle of those. Hamstrings feel dead now. Just discerned yesterday that a blood pressure med making me fatigued. No wonder I've been feeling off and weak.