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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4140 on: May 13, 2017, 04:19:44 am »
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yeah i totally feel you about the form purism. i'll get to backflips and front flips when the program does, as i mentioned earlier i don't want to rush ahead now that i've bought (literally) into GMB. when i do, i'll see if i can find a spotter.

- GMB F1 W5 D5
phase one complete. made some good progress on pirouettes today. also filmed some kip-ups so y'all can see what i'm doing wrong. the ones that are slightly closer to success are where i pushed harder with my arms. unfortunately that's uncomfortable for my shoulders, especially the left.

reflections on phase 1: overall i'm happy. it's the most fun i've had training in a very long time, feels good to give myself over to a prescribed program and just trust to incremental progress. made huge strides on wrist mobility, cartwheels (done properly for the first time in my life!), crow, and handstands (also done for the first time in my life!). on the other hand, could not nail kip-ups and was discouraged by repeated banging on the ground, which gives me a headache and saps motivation to continue practicing and trying different things. they're just not explosive enough.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XApFs0LFNNs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XApFs0LFNNs</a>

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4141 on: May 13, 2017, 08:48:41 am »
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Mate props for posting the video. I can potentially see two issues. I went and tried to implement these fixes myself to get a better understanding and failed 5 in a row before I gave up and came back to the keyboard. Still...you are shooting your legs out instead of under you. You have no chance if your legs are going parallel to the floor instead of folding under you as soon as possible. You'll find once they hit the ground it's a matter of just getting the under enough to sit up and you're there. The other thing I remember doing when I was learning the movement was to get a slight drop before exploding (stretch reflex) which helped get some extra explosiveness. Like a paused squat vs a normal squat. Other than that you seem to be doing everything pretty well. Also, as well as pushing with your arms you may need to push with your head as well once your arms have left the ground. Sounds minor but definitely helps
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4142 on: May 13, 2017, 04:43:25 pm »
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nice. you seem pretty close to nailing one.

i have no tips, as i've never done one.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4143 on: May 14, 2017, 06:13:13 am »
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thanks coges. looking at it, yeah, seems clear that i'm not getting my feet under me enough. i feel that while i'm doing it, too. not sure how to get better at it. will just keep trying shit, i guess. i should also suck it up and go back to middle phase of the GMB tutorial, which has you pop up onto your butt in order to practice the timing. need to bring a couch cushion outside and put it on the grass.

- warm up + handstand practice
yeah, turns out GMB mislabels "handstand bailing." what they really want is for you to do freestanding handstand kick-up practice with safe dismounts. confusing.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJbpDfG0X0A" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJbpDfG0X0A</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mONBi_gIFq0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mONBi_gIFq0</a>
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4144 on: May 14, 2017, 08:23:27 pm »
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That last handstand  :headbang:
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4145 on: May 15, 2017, 12:32:43 am »
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yeah i totally feel you about the form purism. i'll get to backflips and front flips when the program does, as i mentioned earlier i don't want to rush ahead now that i've bought (literally) into GMB. when i do, i'll see if i can find a spotter.

- GMB F1 W5 D5
phase one complete. made some good progress on pirouettes today. also filmed some kip-ups so y'all can see what i'm doing wrong. the ones that are slightly closer to success are where i pushed harder with my arms. unfortunately that's uncomfortable for my shoulders, especially the left.

reflections on phase 1: overall i'm happy. it's the most fun i've had training in a very long time, feels good to give myself over to a prescribed program and just trust to incremental progress. made huge strides on wrist mobility, cartwheels (done properly for the first time in my life!), crow, and handstands (also done for the first time in my life!). on the other hand, could not nail kip-ups and was discouraged by repeated banging on the ground, which gives me a headache and saps motivation to continue practicing and trying different things. they're just not explosive enough.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XApFs0LFNNs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XApFs0LFNNs</a>

Weird about kip ups. I can't do them either but I have a few buddies that are unathletic asf but can do them pretty easily. Definitely something just has to "click" technique-wise

GMB has 3 programs, right? Which one is this? One of the claims they make is that their programs should improve 1. all motor skill learning through better body awareness and 2. make you move better in general. I'm interested in both of these things and feel that my current training does not improve either one of these skills. Do you feel you've improved in either of those areas? Do you know any alternatives for improving these things? Maybe yoga would help with better movement and a little with body awareness but aside from that I dunno any sort of training like that

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4146 on: May 15, 2017, 12:41:27 am »
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yeah, i would say that it does improve body awareness, or at least it has for me. learning completely new skills from a baseline of zero means learning totally new body organization, and that means you're clumsy and have to pay close attention to what you're doing. i've always had decent kinesthetic awareness: i'm an okay athlete, can pick up the basics of new sports pretty easily. but for example i knew my handstands were sagging even before i saw those videos the other day, and that's because i was paying close attention to my whole body.

once the basic skills are ingrained -- pirouettes, kip-ups, handstands -- i have no doubt that will translate to improved balance. one thing i like about the GMB program (they have something like 10, actually, and i'm doing Floor 1) is that it's cumulative. you start easy and add complication in a clear way.

as far as moving better in general, too early to say. one thing i will say is that my wrist mobility has definitely improved, and i think shoulder mobility a bit as well. wrists don't play much role in overall movement but i'm a believer now in their commitment to stretching and mobility, which i'd kind of drifted away from for the last few years.
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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4147 on: May 15, 2017, 10:05:53 am »
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- GMB F1 W6 D1
did less than the prescribed work because rushed. this week is going to be insane at work, most evenings full including tonight. will get in as much as possible and if i have to restart week 6 next week, that's okay.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4148 on: May 21, 2017, 12:48:21 pm »
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week was expected. no workouts. did go zorbing on friday night, which was fun as hell and exhausting. back on the horse today, as self-promised.

- GMB F1 W6 D1
take two. did the whole workout this time. made progress on pirouettes by (shocker) focusing harder on them. balance is still worse on my right foot, 3+ years after the last time i even tweaked that ankle. six sprains will do that, i guess.

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4149 on: May 22, 2017, 11:52:38 am »
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- GMB F1 W6 D2
inner ear messed-with by front and back rolls. feel mildly nauseated. also, had never done either type of roll before so instead of linking them i did them consecutively. will link next time. kip-ups continue to be a source of frustration, despite having gone back to the to-sitting variant. arm drive still not there most of the time. had one or two okay attempts, the rest awful. that'll be satisfying when i get it.

EDIT: didn't finish stretching, feel dead. the rolls are mainly to blame i think.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4150 on: May 23, 2017, 12:19:00 pm »
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- GMB F1 W6 D3
because rolls made me ill yesterday, cut way back on reps today. crow-to-forward roll is easy for me and also boring, so don't feel like i'm missing much. front lever tough but i think it'll be fun. as these get harder, AREG becomes more important.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4151 on: May 26, 2017, 01:11:24 am »
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wednesday

- yoga x 75 mins
a pakistani magazine was doing a photoshoot of gf (we have graduated from friend to gf/bf) and her class for their annual fitness issue. she was nervous, had to show up to support!

thursday

gf birthday, no workout. W6 D4 and a lot of fucking pirouettes still await, tonight.
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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4152 on: May 26, 2017, 04:44:08 am »
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(we have graduated from friend to gf/bf)

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4153 on: May 26, 2017, 05:35:43 am »
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Congrats man :lololol:
She the one you talked about before and showed us a musicvideo of?

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Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« Reply #4154 on: May 26, 2017, 08:55:49 am »
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 :-[

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Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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