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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #450 on: August 31, 2010, 02:04:23 pm »
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News flash: Weighted core exercises make your core sore.


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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #451 on: September 01, 2010, 09:52:15 am »
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Quote from: Glenn Pendlay
But, I think more important is the fact that you are going right up to failure every time you do this exercise, and are so emotionally hung up on your reps. Everyone has an exercise that they are prone to get too emotional about. One exercise that they base some of their "self image" on, or base an inapropriate amount of their feelings of going forward or backward in training on.

You have to fight that shit, and fight it hard. The more you can divorce emotion from the training process, the better. Training is a process of loading the body a certain amount that causes an adaptation to that load. It is not a process of coming to the gym and proving how strong you are or proving that you have not lost strength or muscle, etc.

I don't have a problem with this when I lift because for me lifting is just fun. But jumping is another story. I hate not being able to jump as well as I want and that's bad news. Need to remind myself of this quote when I start jumping again in earnest. I get so pissed at myself for jumping poorly and that is such a stupid cycle to be in. Training is about getting better a little bit at a time.
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #452 on: September 01, 2010, 04:29:35 pm »
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Quote from: Glenn Pendlay
But, I think more important is the fact that you are going right up to failure every time you do this exercise, and are so emotionally hung up on your reps. Everyone has an exercise that they are prone to get too emotional about. One exercise that they base some of their "self image" on, or base an inapropriate amount of their feelings of going forward or backward in training on.

You have to fight that shit, and fight it hard. The more you can divorce emotion from the training process, the better. Training is a process of loading the body a certain amount that causes an adaptation to that load. It is not a process of coming to the gym and proving how strong you are or proving that you have not lost strength or muscle, etc.

I don't have a problem with this when I lift because for me lifting is just fun. But jumping is another story. I hate not being able to jump as well as I want and that's bad news. Need to remind myself of this quote when I start jumping again in earnest. I get so pissed at myself for jumping poorly and that is such a stupid cycle to be in. Training is about getting better a little bit at a time.

definitely.. when i get too into jumping i always get pissed at my performance, but the last few months whenever that happens, i just focus on distance running/sprints/something else to get that shit out of my mind.. it's annoying and stupid to get all bent out of shape over jumps or any exercise, because instead of helping it actually makes you perform worse.. but at the same time, there still needs to be some progress, but that can come from many factors, such as getting stronger in trap bar dl/squat etc.. if you're improving hollistically, then eventually you have more ability to improve your main goal, but you don't beat yourself into the ground as much, that's for sure.

if anyone gets depressed over 'jumping' or 'performance' it's me.. breaking out of that was hard, i'm a training addict.. that's why having tons of goals instead of just one, makes everything alot better for me. such as yesterday, i jumped shitty, then ran 7 miles, and felt great because of that distance work, feel even better today :)

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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #453 on: September 01, 2010, 08:52:12 pm »
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My ankle/foot/leg is officially schizo. Everything felt great today from jump rope on through. I mean,  :) but WTF.

warm up
jump rope, incl a bunch of double unders (these keep getting better)
mobility

ankle rehab circuit (standard)

work
squat 3x10x205 -- fast and strong, very encouraging after 2+ months of not squatting even if it was a toy weight
superset x4
--pull ups x5
--push ups x15

cool down
stretch
lie on the floor trying not to puke
stretch

I'm not sure I'd ever done ten-rep squat sets as work sets before. That's definitely what made me nauseous after I was done working.
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #454 on: September 01, 2010, 11:40:16 pm »
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I'm not sure I'd ever done ten-rep squat sets as work sets before. That's definitely what made me nauseous after I was done working.

10 rep squats are tough man. i hate those. gets you strong though.
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #455 on: September 02, 2010, 04:31:25 am »
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My ankle/foot/leg is officially schizo. Everything felt great today from jump rope on through. I mean,  :) but WTF.

warm up
jump rope, incl a bunch of double unders (these keep getting better)
mobility

ankle rehab circuit (standard)

work
squat 3x10x205 -- fast and strong, very encouraging after 2+ months of not squatting even if it was a toy weight
superset x4
--pull ups x5
--push ups x15

cool down
stretch
lie on the floor trying not to puke
stretch

I'm not sure I'd ever done ten-rep squat sets as work sets before. That's definitely what made me nauseous after I was done working.

u got rabb'd brah! crossfit ftw!

btw, how can we got all kinds of sprints done etc before your workouts? that was gonna be a staple of the upcoming training.. I noticed you didn't do the sprints so you probably couldn't find a spot, no room etc.

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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #456 on: September 02, 2010, 10:47:20 am »
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u got rabb'd brah! crossfit ftw!

btw, how can we got all kinds of sprints done etc before your workouts? that was gonna be a staple of the upcoming training.. I noticed you didn't do the sprints so you probably couldn't find a spot, no room etc.

??

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LOL, at least it was just nausea and I didn't feel like I was going to shit my intestines out.

I'm trying to figure out what to do about sprints and jumps. One possible solution would be to get a bike, thus cutting down on the time it takes to get from a field/track to basketball courts to the gym. Another would be to split sprints/jumps and weights into morning and evening workouts. Would require a major schedule shift, though. A third possibility would be to try to find a really flat section of road near the gym and sprint there. My gym's neighborhood is mostly residential -- lots of embassies and the like -- so not much traffic. But running on concrete/asphalt is, um, not optimal.

Speaking of my gym's neighborhood, I was watching Top Chef DC last night and realized that the house the contestants lived in during shooting is half a block from the gym. Saw them shooting once or twice but didn't think much of it. Funny.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #457 on: September 02, 2010, 02:19:55 pm »
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u got rabb'd brah! crossfit ftw!

btw, how can we got all kinds of sprints done etc before your workouts? that was gonna be a staple of the upcoming training.. I noticed you didn't do the sprints so you probably couldn't find a spot, no room etc.

??

pc

LOL, at least it was just nausea and I didn't feel like I was going to shit my intestines out.

lol, ya man i don't squat when i feel like i have to shit.. i've seen that vid.

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I'm trying to figure out what to do about sprints and jumps. One possible solution would be to get a bike, thus cutting down on the time it takes to get from a field/track to basketball courts to the gym. Another would be to split sprints/jumps and weights into morning and evening workouts. Would require a major schedule shift, though. A third possibility would be to try to find a really flat section of road near the gym and sprint there. My gym's neighborhood is mostly residential -- lots of embassies and the like -- so not much traffic. But running on concrete/asphalt is, um, not optimal.

bike solution sounds best.. dno, morning/evening and asphalt don't sound too good.. i mean, if you are used to doing stuff on asphalt/hard surfaces then i'd say go for it but i doubt you are.. i grew up playing on hard street courts every day for hours and hours so i really have no problem doing plyos/sprints/whatever on pavement etc.. heh

bike sounds like best option, and it'll be a nice warmup.

morning/evening is cool but it's too much of a PITA (pain in the ass) and a drastic shift in schedule.

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Speaking of my gym's neighborhood, I was watching Top Chef DC last night and realized that the house the contestants lived in during shooting is half a block from the gym. Saw them shooting once or twice but didn't think much of it. Funny.

hah nice.. shoulda went over and asked for a sampler.

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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #458 on: September 02, 2010, 03:06:29 pm »
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I was just re-reading the ratio technique article and the other thing that occurs to me is that I could do sprint/jump days completely lift-free. Have strength-hypertrophy and strength-power be done in the gym and something like "reactivity-power" done at the track and on the court. Would simplify logistics a lot.

E.g.

strength-hypertrophy : strength-power : reactivity-power : stim

phase 1, neutral = 2:2:2:0 x2
phase 2, power = 1:2:2:0 x2
phase 3, reactivity/peaking = 0:1:3:1 x1

Pulled those numbers completely out of my ass, but something like that.

Thoughts?
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #459 on: September 03, 2010, 10:06:17 pm »
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warm up
shoot hoops
mobility

movement
10 yard sprint @90% x5
DLRVJ @90% x10
double unders x25 (plus other jump rope)

weights
bench 3x5x185 -- nice and fast
BOR 3x8x135 -- same

cool down
stretch

Jumps were quite low (~28-29") but considering the fact that tonight was the first time I've jumped at all in over two months, I feel okay about that. Legs were reasonably sore, too.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #460 on: September 03, 2010, 10:43:35 pm »
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i hate not jumping as high as i think i can, seeing how all my lifts are going up.

just gotta believe that what im doing is working and keep at it though.

people keep telling me to do plyos, and while i also see the need to incorporate that, they were saying that i should do plyos exclusively. they dun understand that what got me those inches was the weight room, and when i did some air alert shit in the past, while it got me to barely the rim, it also gave me pretty bad knees.
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #461 on: September 04, 2010, 07:31:59 pm »
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warm up
throw
jog
light stretches

work
practice x1.5 hours, mostly drills and then some 3-on-3 and 4-on-4 at the end

cool down
nope

Ankle felt solid.  ;D ;D :highfive:
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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #462 on: September 04, 2010, 07:34:33 pm »
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Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: no bounce, need bounce
« Reply #464 on: September 06, 2010, 01:14:00 pm »
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:headbang:

Yesterday, went hiking/trail running/bouldering with my brother and a couple other kids. Culminated with jumping into the Potomac River off a 40-50 foot cliff. Some kayaker passing by filmed us and then filmed me spelling out my email address (lol) so hopefully we'll have some footage soon! We got a $75 ticket (each) for "entering the Potomac" which is apparently illegal because mad people have drowned in it this year, but whatever. Fucking worth it.
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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