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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2011, 11:47:16 pm »
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speed squats will train your muscles to 'turn on' faster / more explosively.. BUT.. unless you have the muscles to begin with, no amount of speed training is going to get you dunking.

squat more weight the conventional way to add muscles. it is easier to be explosive once you get stronger.

6 total reps of 265 at your weight,  even if repped as fast as possible is not going to do anything. do something like 40 total reps of 80-85% RM 2x/week.. and eat a cow.

forgot to add.. a projected 420x1 squat single is not going to get you jumping high. 345x6-8reps will help vert more.

Thanks Kingfish for ur feedback.  I think my 1rm raw squat is around 380lbs, but I am Grinding up with such weight and lack of explosive power.
After setting the local city squat record I am done with slow powerlifting squat style.  I want to tranform all my muscle in the explosive power.  Personaly, i feel like a Slow 18wheelers, power is there, but unable to release it in a quick explosive manner.

So, I am sure 346lbs x6-8 reps is good for power... But i am not sure how that can get me higher...

I just strated doing speed squating... so may be the weight is not as heavy as I should.  But i can feel my knee is having some problem since I shifted from powerlfiting to Vert training...

110517 Vert Training
Upperbody routine x 2 with 60-70% weight in a explosive manner

Hang Clean with Depth jump alternation
100lbs 3x3  (light but for god sake get it right and use ur Glute, upperbody should be relaxed)
110lbs 2x4
Depth jump with 1 step above knee height

Squat
87lbs 1x3
137lbs 1x3
157lbs 1x3
177lbs 1x3
197lbs 1x3
227lbs 1x3
247lbs 3x3 Slowing down but still pushing fast with no grinding

Reversehyper (suggested from Adarq, Keep the leg stright all the way to the top)
30lbs 3x8

Calfraise
30lbs 3x20 (doing it as explosive as possible all 20 reps)

I am doing 3-4 Max run up jump in my weekly basketball meeting every sunday.  I don think it is enough to consider as Max effort jump training.  However, i can confirm that i am NOT getting any higher still.   :uhhhfacepalm:
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2011, 12:58:30 am »
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So you're doing 3-4 Max Jumps per WEEK?!

Dude I can tell you from personal experience and from general knowledge around here, you will jump higher if you do 10-15 Max Jumps, 3-4x a week.  I always find myself jumping higher when I am jumping frequently.  Just keep jumping a lot.  You definitely have the strength, but while working on speed and reactiveness, make sure you get in your max jump sessions.  It makes a huge difference. 

Not to brag or anything, but I strength trained for about 9 weeks or so, and was frustrated my vert didn't go up.  If you check my journal, you will see that, since 2-3 weeks ago, I started having jump technique practices/max jump sessions and I PR'd 3 consecutive weeks, adding 1 inch per week.  Obviously I had the 3 inches in me, but I needed the jump sessions to get them out.

That AND, I have been doing extra plyo's, but you get the idea.  Just try adding high frequency jumping into your routine. 

Good Luck.
Goal is to dunk.

Vertical needed to dunk: 40"

Current vertical : 38.5"

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2011, 05:38:16 am »
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110519 Vert Training

Hang Clean with Depth jump alternation
75lbs 1x3
85lbs 1x5
105lbs 1x3 &1x4
115lbs 1x3
135lbs 2x4

Depth jump with 1 step above knee height
4x5

Squat
89lbs 1x3
179lbs 1x3
239lbs 1x3
269lbs 1x3
299lbs 2x3

Reverse Hyper
40lbs 3x8

Calf Raise
3x20
BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2011, 02:22:06 am »
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110525 Vert Training
Hang Clean with Depth jump alternation
45lbs 1x5
65lbs 1x5
95lbs 1x3
115lbs 1x3
145lbs 4x3
http://vimeo.com/24251318
Last 3 sets video capped, I am humping the bar a right.. but I dont think this is correct. In my last set, i try to pull the bar up with my back heel up ( i remember this was tuaght in class), and I think the last set is better compare to the others.


Depth jump with 1 step above knee height
4x5

Squat
145lbs 1x3
195lbs 1x3
240lbs 1x3
270lbs 1x3
310lbs 2x3 Getting Slow...

Reverse Hyper
40lbs 3x10  ( I am getting this ex right, feeling the Glute work. but lower back seems to be working slightly still)

Calf Raise
2x20 (Trying to do it Fast with bounce)
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 02:35:05 am by scoobychau »
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Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2011, 03:24:40 am »
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110531 Vert Training
Slight warm up with hang clean

Hang Clean with depth jump alternation
146lbs 4x3
Djump 5x4

Squat
146lbs 1x3
216lbs 1x3
236lbs 1x3
256lbs 1x3
278lbs 3x3

Reverse Hyper Ex
40lbs 3x8
Calfraise
40lbs 3x20

BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2011, 03:35:53 am »
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110602 Jump Jump Jump
I jump like 20+ times during basketball today.

Standstill leap:
Barely Tap the rims

Running 2 legged jump with  3 steps+ approch:
1.5 inches above the rim, stutter step untill the last 2 step.

Jump to Drop step apprach (2 steps):
1 above the rims.

What can u tell from the above numebers?
Bad jumping mechanic, Bad running approch with wasted energy. Lack of plyometric abiltiy may be?

I must jump more...

Btw, during these jump, i notice the feeling is much different compare to the Depth jump i did in the gym.
In the gym, i jump without arm swing due to low ceiling indoor.  and i can not really feel my leg is FULLY stretching to the max..
not sure if it is because of the rubber padded flooring or what..

i am starting to think, all those depth jump in the gym might be useless... it does not feel anythign like my max effort jump i did today...


BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2011, 08:07:14 pm »
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110602 Jump Jump Jump

Btw, during these jump, i notice the feeling is much different compare to the Depth jump i did in the gym.
In the gym, i jump without arm swing due to low ceiling indoor.  and i can not really feel my leg is FULLY stretching to the max..
not sure if it is because of the rubber padded flooring or what..

i am starting to think, all those depth jump in the gym might be useless... it does not feel anythign like my max effort jump i did today...




 Your goal is to increase your max vert, so all plyo's should be done for max height or distance. You can still do those box jumps indoors, but I would recommend doing them as jump tucks.
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Ht-5'11 w/shoes
Max Reach-7'9 w/shoes
Standing vert-26'(outdated)
Max dlrvj-36'(1/3/12)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2011, 03:52:49 am »
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110614 Vert Training  (Wats with the long time skipping gym?)
There were holday last week along with NBA final... I have to Run home after work to watch the replay.  resulting in skipping gym.
Loser...

Hang Clean with depth jump alternation
126lbs 1x3
146lbs 1x3
166lbs 2x3, 1x2.5
Djump 5x4

Squat
146lbs 1x3 (jumped)
178lbs 1x3 (jumped
198lbs 1x3 (jumped)
236lbs 1x3
256lbs 1x3
286lbs 2x3 (slowing down)

Reverse Hyper Ex
45lbs 2x10
Calfraise
45lbs 2x10
« Last Edit: June 27, 2011, 02:19:53 am by scoobychau »
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Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2011, 04:35:47 am »
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110616 Vert Training b4 basketball training To is my first time joining the training of another team. but i have 1 hour spare time after work for my regular vert training.
Hang Clean with depth jump alternation
87lbs 1x3
168lbs 1x3
Djump 3x3

After that, I took 1 hour train to the out door court and see the team with a coach. Infront of me is 4 twenty some yrs old kids with a coach along with a raining wet outdoor court.

The Real Ball Training?
Because is raining, no body showed up, and because is raining and slippery, we can not do much... so we shoot around the key, and played 2 round of horse.
Then the rain stop, but the court remain wet.

The coach instruct us to do the following fundamental and physical training.

Stretching... the usual things
Happy Feet: 40 rapid tapping foot on the toe at base line mid court and other base line, 4 trip (My leg started giving out on me after first round... tough as hell...

Push up with crawling: 2 push up, steps crawling, 2 push up  side to side, 4 trip (After 1 round, my arm start to hurt. at the last round.. i can not finish the 2nd push up, i pretty much dropped myself as I try to go back up.)

Between the leg handling: Move ball side to side with out dropping, forward 10, backward 10, baseline to baseline.  I am surprise I am actually good at this.

Shoot under the rim side to side: 20 shots, side to side 5 round.  Miss 1 shot, run 1 lap.  I am also pretty ok at this. I missed total 3 or 4 shoot out of the 100.

That's it, in front of 4 of this kids, I look the oldest and the strongest... but I have no endurance.  and honestly... I feel like Jason Kidd... being a oldies on the court. (the coach is a few years older then me only.... I do feel out of place in front of this young gun)  Took me 1 hour to head back home at 12:05 am.

PS.
That is a Thursday, I felt ok heading to work on Friday with slight pain 24 hrs post workout.  Than on Sat. approaching 48 hrs post workout, my whole upper body exploded with sore pain.  My triceps is so contracted that I can not flex my bicep, my arm can only bend 90degree trying to reach my shoulder.  The wrose part is, my upper back where my wing is are also destroyed. I can not move my arm up .. I can not turn or do anything without pain.  

I had similar experience when I started running long distance for the firs time, with leg being completely sore with problem walking.  But this is the first farking time with such extreme breakdown on the upper body.  For god sake, I lift weight regularly too, I can not believe this is happening!

I am thinking about joining this team and dismissing my own Team Vanquish... after managing it for 3 years...
or may be I will hire this coach and restructure my own team.  The decission sould be a easier one..
« Last Edit: June 21, 2011, 03:55:59 am by scoobychau »
BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #54 on: June 27, 2011, 02:19:20 am »
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110620 Vert Training
Hang Clean with depth jump alternation
67lbs 1x3
77lbs 1x3
115lbs 1x3 Bad wrist, bad catch
126lbs 1x3
136lbs 4x3
Djump 4x3

Squat
136lbs 1x3 (jumped)
166lbs 1x3 (jumped
196lbs 1x3
218lbs 1x3
266lbs 1x3
288lbs 3x3 (slowing down)

Reverse Hyper Ex
45lbs 3x10
Calfraise
45lbs 3x10
BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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IF YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU'VE NEVER HAD...
YOU MUST BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING
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« Reply #55 on: June 27, 2011, 02:51:48 am »
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110623 Vert Training
Hang Clean with depth jump alternation
135lbs 2x3 Bad catch
155lbs 2x3 Bad catch continue
155lbs 1x2.5 Bad catch lead to drop, right front shoulder pain, injury?
135lbs 1x5, 1x3
Djump 4x3

Squat
179lbs 1x3
205lbs 1x3
225lbs 1x3
245lbs 1x3
269lbs 1x3
289lbs 1x3 (slowing down)

Reverse Hyper Ex
45lbs 3x10
Calfraise
45lbs 3x20

110626 Weekend Vertical Test
Jumped like 20 times,  Sluggish under the hot hot sun.
Nailed a few good jump... video captured...
then i go home.. look at the video.. compare to my previouse photo...
 :-[
WTF... I found a photo of me... in 2010 Oct, reaching the same height I had done just now.
Up in Strength +
Up in Explosive power +
Up in Plyometric ability (Depth jump) +
=
Same Pathetic Running 2 legged jump.

What is missing in the formular? Should I just Jump more?   :pissed:
DAM THIS POS!
« Last Edit: July 05, 2011, 12:35:45 am by scoobychau »
BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2011, 12:40:51 am »
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110627 Vert Training
Hang Clean with depth jump alternation
135lbs 2x3
146lbs 1x3
156lbs 2x3 Good
Djump 5x4

Reverse Hyper Ex
45lbs 3x8

Calfraise (on machine)
123 x 20
135 x 20
140 x20
158 x20

Squat
135lbs 1x5
205lbs 1x3
225lbs 1x3
255lbs 1x3
279lbs 1x3
301lbs 1x3, 1x2 knee is sore
« Last Edit: July 05, 2011, 02:07:31 am by scoobychau »
BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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IF YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU'VE NEVER HAD...
YOU MUST BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2011, 03:20:41 am »
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110629 Vert Training
Hang Clean with depth jump alternation
135lbs 2x3
156lbs 2x3
Djump 4x3

Squat
135lbs 1x3
205lbs 1x3
225lbs 1x3
255lbs 2x3 Easy

Reverse Hyper Ex
Skipped

Calfraise With Machine
169 1x20
180 1x20
192 1x20 Tough


110703 Vert Test, This time, I focus in technique and jumpping method!
This is my 3rd consecutive Sunday vert test back in my old home in that old court where I started jumping 6 years ago...
My first week, I knoew I wont get a shocking new height.. but I did expect some gain... which never happened.
My 2nd week, I got no where... I nailed a good jump...which got me some hype, but when i got home.. I saw a old video cap from Oct 2010....and found out I am back at the same level as before.. no improvement.  Disappointed.

My thrid week, same sunshin, same Sunday, even that same old man shooting basketball like soccer throw in is on the court.  I finally made some gain.

I started warmming up by jumping shooting here and there and stretching my hip flexor.  I got sort of tire due to the sun, and sweat alot.

Than i preform stand still vert for 4 time or so.... no improvement.  On to running 2 step... same bullshxt...
I continue to jump.. and rest and pratice 2 steps stop jump, hop stop jump, swing my arm... and etc.

I start to jump again, focus in mataining speed, smooth approch, no stuttered step, toe point foward, and timing of arm swing.

Bamg!   :personal-record:
The following 3 or 4 running jump are all great with new height!  I even retest my stand still, and seems to got higher.

Moral of the story:
Warm up the CNS for testing Vert.  Warming up the muscle can not release the full power needed for vertical!

I felt that today, personally.
BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2011, 02:23:04 am »
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110705 Vert Training with Basketball Team training = over train? :uhhhfacepalm:

I finaly dismissed my 3 years old basketball team, I am no longer a team owner... Idecide to join some old fashion basketball club/team and learn how to play from some ExA1 league player.
To save time, and thinking that Basketball team training wont be tough.. I decide to do both on the same day.. which is a bad idea.

Vert Training (in gym after work for 1 hour)
Hang Clean with depth jump alternation
67lbs 1x4
146lbs 2x3 bad catch
156lbs 1x3
166lbs 1x3
176lbs 1x3
Djump 4x3

Squat
135lbs 1x3
185lbs 1x3
205lbs 1x3
225lbs 1x3
245lbs 1x3
275lbs 1x3
306lbs 1x3

Reverse Hyper Ex
Skipped

Calfraise With Machine
180 1x20
192 2x20

~1 hour MTR Train to court with 2 mcdonald burgers~

Basketball training (2.5 hours)
Happy feet training: baseline foulline, halfcourt
Defencesive stand: 7 rounds, around fullcourt
5 dribble lay up: 10 rounds, full court
Cross Leg foot work: 7 rounds, Cross fullcourt
3 person half court passing: around the half court finish with layup.  (this is new to me)

Personal Training:
10lb medicine ball: Drop Step, jump with ball hit board x5 . finish with shooting, 10 set.
Shoot under the rim with hand  hitting board: Finish untill 10 baskets with slap
lay up: 1 dribble 2 step, 2 hand layup, 2 dribble back to 3pts line, restart without pick up ball.

Conclude with 3 games full court plaing center.


I think this is consider overtrained... bad for vertical isn't it?   :uhhhfacepalm:
BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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IF YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU'VE NEVER HAD...
YOU MUST BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING
YOU'VE NEVER DONE! (by Thomas Jefferson)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2011, 04:14:43 am »
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110713 Vert Training
Bench
135lbs 2x8

Hang Clean with depth jump alternation
115lbs 1x4
135lbs 2x3
157lbs 1x3 easy
177lbs 1x3 ok
187lbs 1x3 good
196lbs 1x1 Failed 2nd and 3rd
196lbs 1x0 Failed

Djump 4x3

Squat
185lbs 1x3
229lbs 1x3
245lbs 1x3
285lbs 1x3
315lbs 1x3

Reverse Hyper Ex
45lbs 3x8

Calfraise With Machine
192 3x20

Starting in 1106, I had been preforming max effort jumping every Sunday.
The first 2 weeks yeid not result.
Documented here: :pissed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8f3E5o7u1w

« Last Edit: July 18, 2011, 01:32:26 pm by scoobychau »
BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

~SACRIFICE~
IF YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU'VE NEVER HAD...
YOU MUST BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING
YOU'VE NEVER DONE! (by Thomas Jefferson)