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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #915 on: November 01, 2017, 09:59:02 pm »
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #916 on: November 01, 2017, 10:12:49 pm »
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oh man @ 2:00 .. that should have went down. damn!!!!

also that lefty almost dropped too.

good stuff though, that almost-dunk at 2:00 would have been nasty .. crushed nasty.

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #917 on: November 01, 2017, 10:57:58 pm »
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Have you tried the right-left plant jump? Like the way MJ would dunk off 2 foot a lot of times. You might get better leverage that way, since you are strong on your left leg because you are right handed.
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #918 on: November 02, 2017, 05:17:44 pm »
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Have you tried the right-left plant jump? Like the way MJ would dunk off 2 foot a lot of times. You might get better leverage that way, since you are strong on your left leg because you are right handed.

it'd be interesting to know, but considering he almost crushed that dunk at 2:00, not sure why he'd want to even try changing his plant?

I can't recall many people/dunkers online jumping higher or better after changing their plant. Most of them really struggle with it. Pretty much everyone on here has struggled with it, myself included. Even switching the hand barely works for people, ie an LR plant with right hand dunks, switching to LR plant with left hand dunks.

So just saying, considering where he's at right now, experimenting with a different plant seems like a "bad bet". It would be interesting to know for sure, and something that he could mess with more after he lands this dunk he's been chasing.

TLDR, just needs to keep focusing on one thing and that's it, no forks in the road, just crushing that dunk in the most normal way possible.

my 2cents.

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #919 on: November 02, 2017, 07:38:02 pm »
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100% agree!
There is no need to change plant or anything. Whatever feels the best naturally is the way you should jump.
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« Reply #920 on: November 03, 2017, 02:55:44 pm »
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If you HAVE to change something, change the dunking hand, seemed easier to me and helped sooo much. Left hand is so much better/natural for LR plant. T0ddday took this advice and found it very helpful too. But take it with a grain of salt, i am a little bit ambidextrous so it came rather easy to me to dunk left-handed.
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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #921 on: November 05, 2017, 03:03:39 am »
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For discussion: easier to change plants or change hands?

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #922 on: November 05, 2017, 07:37:21 am »
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For discussion: easier to change plants or change hands?

plant probably, but not easier to jump as high when changing your plant - I think actually doing it doesn't feel that bad though for most people, so initially they may go "I can do this!!" then months later you see they still can't get up in that plant

Changing hands is easier from the perspective of actually landing dunks, if the vert is the same.

If you look at it from the perspective of someone short with a low reach, who needs a serious vert to dunk, changing hands seems 1000x easier than changing plant, in my humble opinion.

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If you HAVE to change something, change the dunking hand, seemed easier to me and helped sooo much. Left hand is so much better/natural for LR plant. T0ddday took this advice and found it very helpful too. But take it with a grain of salt, i am a little bit ambidextrous so it came rather easy to me to dunk left-handed.

yup, I tried getting good with my left, but didn't try hard enough. I had some really solid misses with my left - had they gone down it would have been amazing. But I could never really land one of those.. to top it off, i'm a natural lefty. I broke my left arm at ~age 6 or so, and became righty .. so I still write/eat/brush my teeth/etc lefty, but everything sports related is righty. So changing hands for dunking should have been even easier for me, but it wasn't, because I was just so locked in to that LR-R power dunk.. it definitely gave me "more room in the air" to land a serious dunk, due to how we basically twist counter clockwise with the LR plant and rotate right into that left arm... but still couldn't pull it off properly.

For an "elite level" LR-R dunker, Golden Child was LR-R if i'm not mistaken.



fwiw, this is one of my best lefty attempts. you can just see I have so much "room", looks way different than my RH attempts:

http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/adarq%27s-journal/msg41378/#msg41378 (lmao :ninja:)



it's funny, I remember so many of my dunk sessions & various dunks.. so much adrenaline, permanent memories. lmao.

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #923 on: November 05, 2017, 06:06:58 pm »
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If I were in your shoes, where I just need to get very slightly higher, I would focus on getting super potentiation. I don't know if you've tried french contrast but if you do it correctly you should get at least a couple extra inches on your jumps:

https://simplifaster.com/articles/how-to-jump-higher-using-french-contrast-and-potentiation-clusters/

Article is kind of dense but the important instructional part is at the end.

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Heavy partial range lift or isometric for 1-3 reps
Rest 20 seconds

Force oriented plyometric exercise, such as a depth jump
Rest 20 seconds

Speed-strength oriented lift for low to medium reps, 2-5 typically
Rest 20 seconds

Speed-oriented plyometric exercise of higher repetition range
Rest 2-5 minutes and repeat

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I perform 3-6 rounds of French Contrast, or possibly more if “the pan is hot.” I like to take 4-6 minutes between each round to test vertical jumps on a jump mat, especially in circuits that emphasize the realization of motor skills. It takes about 2-4 minutes after each circuit before fatigue subsides enough for the test to be a good one. Typically, vertical jumps will increase by an inch per round for 3-5 of waves of French Contrast before leveling out.

It would be kind of hard to get max strength and speed strength exercises set up on a bball court, but possible. For the max strength you could do an isometric push against an immovable overhanging resistance. For speed strength maybe you could bring a set of dumbbells onto the court and do jump squats.

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #924 on: November 05, 2017, 11:05:21 pm »
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Thanks for the reply, especially the Cluster contrast thing, i will have to look into it.

171104 2km Running Hill race with my girl
Having a running event on Sat morning, I decide to skip my W6 plyo and hope to do it on sat(after the run) or sunday)
We trained well for this run, running 2km and 3 times a weeks and running up and down the stair at the track (10 x 40steps etc).
I would say we are pretty well prepared.  And target time was reached.

During the race, we blasted off right from the start along side with a bunch of teenage kid.  There is really no time for us to slow down, 2 min in to the race, people started to slow down and we started to pass people.  Still many kids infront of us, and for the first time, we are running up and down hill...    We see kids dashing down hill with big step so fast...which we never train for and end up trying to go faster with big step holding hands.    We see daddy runner being 3 meter ahead leaving their boy behind sprinting down hill only to end up landing face first sliding down for half a meter right before us.  We end up have to hop to the side and go on with out looking back.  But I did hear that dad ask him to get up and go on...  Guess sliding on slippery sandy/stone down hill is better than rubbing against cement floor.   I did hear the boy cry few sec later.   Just brutal, I am glad that I did hold on to her. 

The whole run felt like driving in a race track.  So many things happening at once, no time to think, no time to slow down.. just run on.   The only thing I did is the check the clock and encouraged my girl at 2min and 5 min mark (which is about our 1 lap and 2.5 lap times).

The end of the run require us to run up a High hill with 256 steps.  We got stoned right off the start here... We started walking briefly and started losing our position... there is this boy who we passed before.... he blow by us here... and we try to get pass him again.. but we end up losing at about 200 stairs.   We lost to him for about 20 sec at the end.  Going down the stair is dangerous also... consider our leg is going soft already.   (so going up 256 stairs in one go is... totally different than going up and down 10 flights of stair... we now know)

At the end, we got 3rd place.  Falling behind 1st by 50sec.  There are at least 2 times where I spotted 1st place in sight.  But we just could not gain on him.
My leg especially my calf was shaking for nearly 10 min after the run.  However, my girl seems to be fine.   The whole race lasted 14 min only. with avg pace at 6.5min/km .

It is weird, I thought I am fit, running at least once or twice per week.  My calf has been activated with my FWD stride running always and also with the Dumbell calf raise I had been doing.  But for some reason, My leg muscle is so sore the next day.  I mean my Calf is sore....which should never happened.  This Sprinting some how shocked my system.

I could not do Plyo after the event and i could not do it the next day.  (so i now skipped my plyo session 2 weeks in a row)

141106 W7 Weight Session with Coach A
My leg is sore.  Glute, Calfe Quad and ham... all sore.  But I still manage to complete today session.  Start of Week 7
Keep increasing the weight...
345lbs  only manage to do 2 reps. (3set of 2)  (Suppose to do 3x3)
2965lbs Hip Thrust (4set of 6)
60lbs Single leg calf (4set of 6)


My body weight is not going down.. it go back to 186lbs Sunday night and 183lbs Monday Morning.

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BIY - believe in yourself
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2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #925 on: November 07, 2017, 12:11:22 pm »
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can't quite picture the race. you were running up and down a hill? or some steps? in a crowd? how were you partnered with your girl? tied together?
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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« Reply #926 on: November 07, 2017, 11:51:20 pm »
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Some pic from the run (i am not in the pic)




Starting.. and running for 10 min at the mountain trail, and finally up the Budda stairs.
We just hold hands.

171107 30min Weight lost Cardo
I am pretty fucked from work.  Really messy indeed.  I have to run.. coach reminding me over and over again.. saying I am now on week 8 and my weight had not gone done at all.
So i left the house at 945pm
Hope this run can...
Not just reduce my weight,
But also Clear my mind and give me an good night of sleep.
Coach reminder me over and over... I need to lose weight in order to jump higher. So no matter how tired or busy...
Cardio is a must.
For the record. May be is the lowered temperature, or becaz of the last crazy fast run I did with my girl; today run felt easy and good.. Did not turn on gps to track distance... But I felt good... At least my mind is clear during the run. And it seems like for the first time, I am finally mostly in aerobic state.  (my arm HR monitor said so)

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Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #927 on: November 08, 2017, 08:31:49 am »
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171108 W7 max effort with ball

I have a few close attempt that is not recorded. Phone out of storage.
Still fail. Waiting for my first dunk on rim 3.

My whole wrist can go over this rim.

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BIY - believe in yourself
Born 1980
190 lbs
Reach 7'5" (89")
2 legs leap 28"@06, 33"@11, 34.5"@2012, 37"@2013
Ankle Surgery - Dec 14, 07
Dunk Goal - Nov 11, 2012 (Daughter's 1 yrs old Bdays)

~SACRIFICE~
IF YOU WANT SOMETHING YOU'VE NEVER HAD...
YOU MUST BE WILLING TO DO SOMETHING
YOU'VE NEVER DONE! (by Thomas Jefferson)

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Re: Scooby 2011 Journal
« Reply #928 on: November 08, 2017, 07:15:04 pm »
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left hk, hope to be back next year. thanks for the location though. went several times, think it took about an hour each time by MTR. my last session there i struggled the most, was barely able to get 1 hand dunks off the dribble on the 9'6.5. hopefully next year when i get back will be able to dunk off the dribble 2 hands on the 9'6.5.

nice attempts on rim 3 though. can you do a 2 hander on rim 1 btw?

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« Reply #929 on: November 09, 2017, 10:54:39 am »
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Some pic from the run (i am not in the pic)




Starting.. and running for 10 min at the mountain trail, and finally up the Budda stairs.
We just hold hands.

171107 30min Weight lost Cardo
I am pretty fucked from work.  Really messy indeed.  I have to run.. coach reminding me over and over again.. saying I am now on week 8 and my weight had not gone done at all.
So i left the house at 945pm
Hope this run can...
Not just reduce my weight,
But also Clear my mind and give me an good night of sleep.
Coach reminder me over and over... I need to lose weight in order to jump higher. So no matter how tired or busy...
Cardio is a must.
For the record. May be is the lowered temperature, or becaz of the last crazy fast run I did with my girl; today run felt easy and good.. Did not turn on gps to track distance... But I felt good... At least my mind is clear during the run. And it seems like for the first time, I am finally mostly in aerobic state.  (my arm HR monitor said so)

it looks pretty intense.. looks like tons of people really running hard initially, which looks like it could be quite chaotic, until more people get tired lmao.