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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #765 on: January 31, 2016, 10:05:03 pm »
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Hanging to see the sports doc already. Still have to wait another 12 days.

Speaking to a physio client of mine and she was giving me some good points of advice on meniscus tears and surgery (my biggest fear). Apparently there's some decent literature coming out around unnecessary scopes for meniscus tears in younger athletes leading to osteoarthritis. The trend is to focus on the muscles around the knee and strengthening the hips. Fingers crossed this is the way I get to go.
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« Reply #766 on: January 31, 2016, 10:08:33 pm »
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In other good news I've been averaging about 45-60 mins of mobility every night. Focusing on keeping calves, quads and feet loose and still working on L shoulder and lats. So far so good.
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« Reply #767 on: February 01, 2016, 02:31:53 am »
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01/02/16
Total Cals- 2,157
P- 201
C- 204
F- 44

Quick chest w/o

Bench Press-
bar x 10, 40 x 8
60 x 6, 7, 8- Concentrating on tension in the bench. The movement feels foreign to me as I rarely flat bench

Guillotine Bench-
40 x 12, 10, 8, 12

Lying KG Tricep Extension-
16kg x 15, 15

Trying to get excited about just training upper body which is extremely difficult for me. Feel like I'm not actually working towards anything even though I know more upper body size will make me happy. It's only 2 weeks till I have some more concrete news so I really just need to suck it up.

*Edit- Forgot to mention I'm obsessed with this powerlifter's channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ-xy6LXvbRkz9i49iaoCcQ

Especially videos like this...300 @ 89kg @ 20yrs old..that speed
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG12eIZWVnI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG12eIZWVnI</a>
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #768 on: February 02, 2016, 08:59:13 pm »
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02/02/16

Total Cals- 2,655
P- 193
C- 139
F- 127

Sleep has been screwed lately. Getting multiple interruptions every night (thanks kids) which is affecting my ability to get up and go to the gym. Hoping to get this sorted asap. Also, got carried away with the cals last night. Had a couple of beers and then some chocolate and pizza followed. Not too much damage done though.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #769 on: February 03, 2016, 06:23:56 pm »
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03/02/16

Zero training, some foam rolling & stretching
Total Cals- 2,281
P- 205
C- 196
F- 67

04/02/16

Total Cals- 2,051
P- 205
C- 84
F- 66

Training- 5am

Tuck front lever- Had 1 great set of this today. Almost worked out of the tuck for 2-3s. Doesn't sound like much but felt great.
10s x 5 EMOM

Chins- (bw @92 this morning)
bw x 4, 4
+5 x 3, +10 x 2, +15 x 2, +20 x 1

Cable Row-
41 x 8, 46 x 8, 50 x 8, 55 x 15

Inverted Row-
bw x 8, 8

BB Curl-
20 x 15, 10

Hammer Curl-
12.5 x 6, 6

Spin Bike-
Did 1 hard interval and had some lateral knee pain. Not in the usual area. Needless to say I stopped this.
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« Reply #770 on: February 04, 2016, 10:44:13 pm »
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Feeling mildly depressed about my knee and slightly anxious ahead of my meeting with the sports doc next week. It's funny how much I associate being able to lift heavy weights with being me and being normal. Even though I can do everything else it's an odd place to be.  There's a certain level of limbo that I'm. My mind is refusing to accept new goals prior to receiving the final answer on where I stand. This is even though I have always craved more upper body size which was one of my new goals in light of where I am. I wonder whether or not that goal is particularly important to me or if it's a case of I can't leg stuff so all I want to do is leg stuff. I'm thinking it's most likely the latter.

Mind you I am well aware of how minor my situation is in the grand scheme of things and the fact that I will very likely return to full training in the somewhat near future even if I do require surgery.

It has been a good time to reflect though on what is important to me about training and performance in the future. I've come to a few conclusions that will heavily influence where I go from here training-wise. I'm not solving the world's problems here but it's nice to get some clarity every now and then.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #771 on: February 05, 2016, 08:07:31 am »
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Feeling mildly depressed about my knee and slightly anxious ahead of my meeting with the sports doc next week. It's funny how much I associate being able to lift heavy weights with being me and being normal. Even though I can do everything else it's an odd place to be.  There's a certain level of limbo that I'm. My mind is refusing to accept new goals prior to receiving the final answer on where I stand. This is even though I have always craved more upper body size which was one of my new goals in light of where I am. I wonder whether or not that goal is particularly important to me or if it's a case of I can't leg stuff so all I want to do is leg stuff. I'm thinking it's most likely the latter.

Mind you I am well aware of how minor my situation is in the grand scheme of things and the fact that I will very likely return to full training in the somewhat near future even if I do require surgery.

It has been a good time to reflect though on what is important to me about training and performance in the future. I've come to a few conclusions that will heavily influence where I go from here training-wise. I'm not solving the world's problems here but it's nice to get some clarity every now and then.

I absolutely know the feeling you're describing and I think everyone here's a bit like that. If I couldn't train for athleticism for whatever reason I just can't imagine what would fill the gap. It's weird but nothing really gives me enjoyment the way training does. I often find my general mood is pretty much linked to how training is going - not sure if that's healthy or not!

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #772 on: February 05, 2016, 10:30:03 pm »
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Feeling mildly depressed about my knee and slightly anxious ahead of my meeting with the sports doc next week. It's funny how much I associate being able to lift heavy weights with being me and being normal. Even though I can do everything else it's an odd place to be.  There's a certain level of limbo that I'm. My mind is refusing to accept new goals prior to receiving the final answer on where I stand. This is even though I have always craved more upper body size which was one of my new goals in light of where I am. I wonder whether or not that goal is particularly important to me or if it's a case of I can't leg stuff so all I want to do is leg stuff. I'm thinking it's most likely the latter.

Mind you I am well aware of how minor my situation is in the grand scheme of things and the fact that I will very likely return to full training in the somewhat near future even if I do require surgery.

It has been a good time to reflect though on what is important to me about training and performance in the future. I've come to a few conclusions that will heavily influence where I go from here training-wise. I'm not solving the world's problems here but it's nice to get some clarity every now and then.

I absolutely know the feeling you're describing and I think everyone here's a bit like that. If I couldn't train for athleticism for whatever reason I just can't imagine what would fill the gap. It's weird but nothing really gives me enjoyment the way training does. I often find my general mood is pretty much linked to how training is going - not sure if that's healthy or not!

Pretty much a perfect summary.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #773 on: February 07, 2016, 06:28:50 am »
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07/02/16

Quick bench sesh...like really quick. Got it in whilst mowing the lawn

Incline Bench
bar x 10, 40 x 5
60 x 5, 5, 5

Done.
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« Reply #774 on: February 07, 2016, 06:36:20 am »
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So my son had his first gymnastics class yesterday. Aside from being super proud I was absolutely amazed at the way these kids killed the skills they were training. Whether it was flips, aerials, handstands, hs push ups, rope climbs, etc. There were between 5-10 years old and I was simply blown away. And also, extremely mad at my parents for not getting me into gymnastics when I was younger.
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« Reply #775 on: February 10, 2016, 05:14:34 pm »
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Have had a bloody cold the last 3-4 days. Not quite flu like but bad enough to stop me from doing anything meaningful. Just feeling used.

On a good note I see the sports doc this arvo so fingers crossed. The guy I'm seeing comes with good wraps too. Head doc at Athletics Australia and also on the team at Hawthorn (AFL club).
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« Reply #776 on: February 11, 2016, 06:51:07 am »
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Saw the sports physician today. Mostly good news.

Mensicus tear is basically not a problem. I can still irritate it with certain movements i.e. loaded knee flexion > 90 degrees but he said in no way should I get surgery.

He gave me a summary which I've outlined below.

Three issues:

- Patellofemoral Cartilage Wear- Early Osteoarthritis
- Medial Cartilage Wear- Early Osteoarthritis
- Patella Tendinopathy- Overloaded Tendon

Treatment-

Modify loads
- Alternate day high impacts: running/jumping

Low Impacts
- cycling- seat not too low
- swim
- gym: avoid deep knee flexion > 90 degrees

Strengthen post chain/glutes/quads/vmo/core
Strength-->knee stability

He is happy for me to return to sport but to manage loads effectively based on feel and pain level. Pretty damn happy with that.

Speaking to a physio client of mine and she was talking about treatment for patella tendinopathy. Apparently there's some good research out there on high intensity/long duration isometrics being an extremely effective treatment. She was talking about really having to push the envelope on these. Sounds pretty interesting and trying to do some research on that myself now and getting overly confused. Seeing my physio next week for more info.

In the interim I'm going to get back into the gym and start again. 

Edit- He was quite disappointed that I had stopped squatting especially relating to tendon strength.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #777 on: February 11, 2016, 08:37:02 am »
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good news!

what's funny is, the alternating impacts (high vs low) is smart regardless of whether or not we're injured.

as for isometrics; no idea. there's so much conflicting research on them over the years. I think deep down everyone wants them to work and be somewhat "magical", not sure why. I'd definitely be careful pushing the envelope with really intense overcoming/yielding isometrics.

For patella-femoral issues, in addition to all of the p-chain stuff they want you to do, TKE's are so effective.

Cool about the squatting. Was he mad that you stopped the movement itself or the movement under load? (or not sure?). It's such an important human movement so, removing it from our activities of daily living has been a bad evolutionary mistake. heh!

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« Reply #778 on: February 11, 2016, 08:54:04 am »
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PT disappointed that you stopped squatting = good PT  :lololol:
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« Reply #779 on: February 11, 2016, 05:31:18 pm »
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good news!

what's funny is, the alternating impacts (high vs low) is smart regardless of whether or not we're injured.

as for isometrics; no idea. there's so much conflicting research on them over the years. I think deep down everyone wants them to work and be somewhat "magical", not sure why. I'd definitely be careful pushing the envelope with really intense overcoming/yielding isometrics.

For patella-femoral issues, in addition to all of the p-chain stuff they want you to do, TKE's are so effective.

Cool about the squatting. Was he mad that you stopped the movement itself or the movement under load? (or not sure?). It's such an important human movement so, removing it from our activities of daily living has been a bad evolutionary mistake. heh!

pc!

Thanks. Yeah the alternating is kind of a no-brainer that I have often forgotten.

With the isometrics from what my physio friend told me is that there are new protocols that were released in November/December last year on how to apply it. Apparently they create in the body more of whatever it is that is needed for tendon repair (can't remember the name of it). You have to push the envelope/back off/push it again, etc. I will be getting a copy of the protocol out of interest early next week so will put it up.

Thx. Will definitely incorporate some  tke's.

He was mad that I stopped squatting altogether and from his perspective didn't see why I should have stopped doing anything I was doing. He did make reference to heavy squatting and tendon strength but said for me to approach that cautiously. He just said to start back at 50% of my 1RM and gradually work back up.
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