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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1740 on: October 29, 2018, 09:56:11 pm »
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really glad it seems to be nothing.

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I know I've said this before, but I don't think my body has ever felt worse. Hips, calves and quads are super tight and resistant despite a good amount of time spent stretching/mobilising.

that's how i started feeling, despite stretching/mobility etc. sounds familiar.

i feel so much better when i don't stretch at all. it's crazy.

i have to try really hard not to stretch my calves/hamstrings. if i refrain, i feel good. if i do it, i feel like crap. it's nuts. i mean i feel good at the time when i'm doing it, but not to soon after, i feel like crap, especially the next day.

pc!

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1741 on: October 30, 2018, 12:46:48 am »
+1
really glad it seems to be nothing.

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I know I've said this before, but I don't think my body has ever felt worse. Hips, calves and quads are super tight and resistant despite a good amount of time spent stretching/mobilising.

that's how i started feeling, despite stretching/mobility etc. sounds familiar.

i feel so much better when i don't stretch at all. it's crazy.

i have to try really hard not to stretch my calves/hamstrings. if i refrain, i feel good. if i do it, i feel like crap. it's nuts. i mean i feel good at the time when i'm doing it, but not to soon after, i feel like crap, especially the next day.

pc!

Yeah it is/was super weird. I think in my case it was just too much through the lower body. I walk around in dress shoes for work 90% of the time too and they're super hard on the feet and calves. I'm backing off the lower body work and am going to build back up slowly with way more single leg stuff in the next few months. I feel like my brakes are permanently on with regards to performance especially with jumping and running. If I can sort that out I'll get far more in return on the other end. Couldn't care less what my squat is when that happens too.  :o
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1742 on: October 31, 2018, 09:05:24 pm »
+1
really glad it seems to be nothing.

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I know I've said this before, but I don't think my body has ever felt worse. Hips, calves and quads are super tight and resistant despite a good amount of time spent stretching/mobilising.

that's how i started feeling, despite stretching/mobility etc. sounds familiar.

i feel so much better when i don't stretch at all. it's crazy.

i have to try really hard not to stretch my calves/hamstrings. if i refrain, i feel good. if i do it, i feel like crap. it's nuts. i mean i feel good at the time when i'm doing it, but not to soon after, i feel like crap, especially the next day.

pc!

Yeah it is/was super weird. I think in my case it was just too much through the lower body. I walk around in dress shoes for work 90% of the time too and they're super hard on the feet and calves. I'm backing off the lower body work and am going to build back up slowly with way more single leg stuff in the next few months. I feel like my brakes are permanently on with regards to performance especially with jumping and running. If I can sort that out I'll get far more in return on the other end. Couldn't care less what my squat is when that happens too.  :o

gotcha. it's tricky.

in my case, could be due to stretching too much (in spurts) throughout my life, or just somehow related to getting older. because I do not remember, at all, feeling like this when I stretched say, prior to ~35 years old. heh. now I can feel it just wrecks my legs (upper seems ok), making them weak/tight/achy. it's nuts.. then I stop stretching for long periods, even when i feel the urge, and every day aches/pains just fade away. then once again, stretch, and boom they come back. it's really odd.

as a recent example .. i've been feeling great lately. several days ago, decided to give in and stretch my quads while walking the dogs. Just simple standing quad stretch, not holding it long at all. the next few days, achy knees (lateral knee pain) & my calves tightened up. felt the urge to stretch, made sure not to, and knees feeling better again.

flexibility has always been the big mystery to me. over the last year, it seems that every time i stop stretching, i start slowly feeling better & better.

these last 2 months where i've PR'd like crazy & legs/calves have been feeling better & better, I haven't been stretching at all. If I do a random stretch here & there, I feel it the next day - lingering effects. So I try as hard as possible not to give in and stretch anything.

i dno man it's just weird.

ok just blabbing. ;d

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1743 on: October 31, 2018, 10:11:53 pm »
+1
really glad it seems to be nothing.

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I know I've said this before, but I don't think my body has ever felt worse. Hips, calves and quads are super tight and resistant despite a good amount of time spent stretching/mobilising.

that's how i started feeling, despite stretching/mobility etc. sounds familiar.

i feel so much better when i don't stretch at all. it's crazy.

i have to try really hard not to stretch my calves/hamstrings. if i refrain, i feel good. if i do it, i feel like crap. it's nuts. i mean i feel good at the time when i'm doing it, but not to soon after, i feel like crap, especially the next day.

pc!

Yeah it is/was super weird. I think in my case it was just too much through the lower body. I walk around in dress shoes for work 90% of the time too and they're super hard on the feet and calves. I'm backing off the lower body work and am going to build back up slowly with way more single leg stuff in the next few months. I feel like my brakes are permanently on with regards to performance especially with jumping and running. If I can sort that out I'll get far more in return on the other end. Couldn't care less what my squat is when that happens too.  :o

gotcha. it's tricky.

in my case, could be due to stretching too much (in spurts) throughout my life, or just somehow related to getting older. because I do not remember, at all, feeling like this when I stretched say, prior to ~35 years old. heh. now I can feel it just wrecks my legs (upper seems ok), making them weak/tight/achy. it's nuts.. then I stop stretching for long periods, even when i feel the urge, and every day aches/pains just fade away. then once again, stretch, and boom they come back. it's really odd.

as a recent example .. i've been feeling great lately. several days ago, decided to give in and stretch my quads while walking the dogs. Just simple standing quad stretch, not holding it long at all. the next few days, achy knees (lateral knee pain) & my calves tightened up. felt the urge to stretch, made sure not to, and knees feeling better again.

flexibility has always been the big mystery to me. over the last year, it seems that every time i stop stretching, i start slowly feeling better & better.

these last 2 months where i've PR'd like crazy & legs/calves have been feeling better & better, I haven't been stretching at all. If I do a random stretch here & there, I feel it the next day - lingering effects. So I try as hard as possible not to give in and stretch anything.

i dno man it's just weird.

ok just blabbing. ;d

It is super weird. I wonder if it's just an adaptability period. Like when you go from 5 hours sleep a night to 8. First few days you feel worse and then the magic hits. I think stretching is kind of like that. Having said that if I don't train for 3-4 weeks I have brilliant flexibility. I don't feel strong in that range though. I think that's the key for me going forward is more loaded stretching/mobility stuff to build strength in those end ranges.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1744 on: November 01, 2018, 05:47:34 am »
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My last logged stretch : January 2018
Previous before that : November 2016

:lololol:

I always do dynamic stretching though before squats and basketball. That's a different story. Static? never! Can't tell if right or wrong though, we'll never know how it would be if i did stretch.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1745 on: November 01, 2018, 06:18:29 pm »
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My last logged stretch : January 2018
Previous before that : November 2016

:lololol:

I always do dynamic stretching though before squats and basketball. That's a different story. Static? never! Can't tell if right or wrong though, we'll never know how it would be if i did stretch.

Yes to dynamic. Static I think the type of stretch is the biggest key. I'm planning a big flexibility tilt the next 4 weeks to I'll see if I can find out.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1746 on: November 04, 2018, 07:44:52 pm »
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I’ve been floating the last couple of weeks. Some minor training here and there. More stretching than usual which is good but finally put a plan together for the next month. So far I have two templates in mind depending on my work/life balance. The first is simply-

Push, Pull, Legs, mobility circuit every day + hapkido or social netball if I can play.

This is 3 days training plus a few extras. Pretty straight forward and pretty easy to adhere to.

The second is the ideal training week and this would involve-

Mon- Push + stretch/handstand
Tue- Pull + hapkido
Wed- Legs + netball
Thurs- Push + hapkido/stretch
Fri- Pull + run/handstand
Sat- Legs + hapkido/stretch
Sun- handstand

This is the ideal if everything lines up and would have all weight training done early in the AM with some lunch training and some night time work. Pretty straight forward and most of the stretch/handstand/run sessions would be 20-30 mins max. Even the weights sessions will be ideally around 45 mins plus warm up. The stretch and handstand sessions I’m hoping to do with the kids as well so they are getting some additional gymnastics training in. Like I said, this is the ideal and I’m going to push to do the sessions but am not going to beat myself up if I miss a few.

Goals for this block are to get my base level flexibility back, add some upper body mass and a 10s free standing handstand.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1747 on: November 08, 2018, 06:35:52 pm »
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So far the plan is going ok but with interruptions.

Monday- Push + handstand + stretch
Tuesday- Pull + stretch
Wednesday- 14 hour work day
Thursday- 14 hour work day 
Friday- training this afternoon/evening

Obviously the plan I put together for myself was stellar in it's construction 🤣 but I am toying with the idea of creating a more enjoyable/productive morning routine other than driving to the gym first thing in the morning. Ideally the overall structure would stay the same as I can train at home in the early evenings but am thinking of switching the stretching/handstand work to the mornings along some meditation/tai chi/martial arts practice or something similar. ​​​​​​​Going to set a goal next week of simply getting up earlier and walking the dog and I will build from there. 
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1748 on: November 08, 2018, 08:57:06 pm »
+1
Obviously the plan I put together for myself was stellar in it's construction 🤣

lol.

plans bug me.

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​​​​​​​Going to set a goal next week of simply getting up earlier and walking the dog and I will build from there.

that's a good plan tho :D

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1749 on: November 08, 2018, 10:31:26 pm »
+1
Obviously the plan I put together for myself was stellar in it's construction 🤣

lol.

plans bug me.

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​​​​​​​Going to set a goal next week of simply getting up earlier and walking the dog and I will build from there.

that's a good plan tho :D

Haha as soon as I wrote it down I knew I was doomed. Bloody plans.
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1750 on: November 08, 2018, 10:50:40 pm »
+1
Obviously the plan I put together for myself was stellar in it's construction 🤣

lol.

plans bug me.

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​​​​​​​Going to set a goal next week of simply getting up earlier and walking the dog and I will build from there.

that's a good plan tho :D

Haha as soon as I wrote it down I knew I was doomed. Bloody plans.

yup lmao.

when i write down a plan, it's like pulling the pin on a grenade. i do better if i chuck it. ;d

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1751 on: November 09, 2018, 01:33:10 am »
+1
Obviously the plan I put together for myself was stellar in it's construction 🤣

lol.

plans bug me.

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​​​​​​​Going to set a goal next week of simply getting up earlier and walking the dog and I will build from there.

that's a good plan tho :D

Haha as soon as I wrote it down I knew I was doomed. Bloody plans.

yup lmao.

when i write down a plan, it's like pulling the pin on a grenade. i do better if i chuck it. ;d

Hahaha there should be a rule against it AELS style
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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1752 on: November 09, 2018, 09:10:04 am »
+1
Obviously the plan I put together for myself was stellar in it's construction 🤣

lol.

plans bug me.

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​​​​​​​Going to set a goal next week of simply getting up earlier and walking the dog and I will build from there.

that's a good plan tho :D

Haha as soon as I wrote it down I knew I was doomed. Bloody plans.

yup lmao.

when i write down a plan, it's like pulling the pin on a grenade. i do better if i chuck it. ;d

Hahaha there should be a rule against it AELS style

hah. for certain "brain types" there should be. but AELS works for everyone so, it's just on another level :D

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Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« Reply #1753 on: November 13, 2018, 05:57:54 pm »
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Have had a bit of a virus the last 4-5 days. Spent the weekend away with the family as my wife did the Challenge Shepparton 70.3. Watching her standing there waiting for the call into the water for the swim still gives me anxiety thinking about having to swim that far with that many people. She has this virus too and couldn't keep any food down, lost most of her nutrition on the bike and only took in about 400ml of liquid nutrition for the whole thing. Finished in 5:37 so although she's disappointed with the time it's a great achievement.

I'm feeling almost back to normal and will gradually get back to training in the next couple of days. 
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« Reply #1754 on: November 15, 2018, 07:55:46 am »
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Have had a bit of a virus the last 4-5 days. Spent the weekend away with the family as my wife did the Challenge Shepparton 70.3. Watching her standing there waiting for the call into the water for the swim still gives me anxiety thinking about having to swim that far with that many people. She has this virus too and couldn't keep any food down, lost most of her nutrition on the bike and only took in about 400ml of liquid nutrition for the whole thing. Finished in 5:37 so although she's disappointed with the time it's a great achievement.

I'm feeling almost back to normal and will gradually get back to training in the next couple of days.

damn that really sucks for your wife. i remember something like that happening for one of her other races?

regardless, she is a beast.

hope you both kick that virus asap, sucks!!!!!$@