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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2850 on: October 08, 2015, 04:16:45 am »
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7 October 2015

Foam roll : IT bands
Stretch : groin, hip flexors, hamstrings, calves, quads-psoas ( kneeling stretch )

Everything felt much tighter than last session. Made them rolls and stretches longer. Session helped a lot.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2851 on: October 08, 2015, 06:34:34 pm »
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Hey man, good to see the oly lifts coming along!

What kinda stuff are you doing for your core? I too have neglected and need to do something about it.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2852 on: October 09, 2015, 06:35:21 am »
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Thanks man, looks like o-lifts are somehow progressing much better this year.
As for core, at some point i was consistent doing weighted stuff at the machines ( seated crunches, leg raise sled )  but tbh i don't think they worked much. Someone ( dreyth i think? ) posted a similar testimonial recently, cable-crunching a shitload of weight but still having weak core.
I think 'body'/'balance' stuff is much better. I did the 7DVJC the other day and it was pretty challenging. That was just 3x15 lying leg raise/lower and then 1 minute planks at each position ( left/front/right ). I was very happy last year with leg raises, i am too weak to do them hanging, did them on the dips cage ( they are called 'captain's chair' leg raises, lololol ). Also too weak to bring legs over parallel. Even like that, seated and raising to parallel they torched my abs. LBSS often praises the 'windshield wiper' variation. Finally a lot of people in here swear by wheel roll-outs too. Add some back-extension stuff for a more balanced core, although i am sure your back is very strong from all those pulls.
Hope it helps.



8 October 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~87,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

RDL:
8@85kg ( +2,5 kg )
8@85kg ( +2,5 kg )
8@85kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Great.

BB LUNGE:
Moving those to Saturdays after MSEM as planned. Bringing back back extensions, will try to achieve doing them glute/hamstring dominant.

INCLINE (45') DB PRESS:
12@18kg each hand ( +2 kg each hand  )
12@18kg each hand ( +2 kg each hand )
12@18kg each hand ( +2 kg each hand )
-Owed those from previous session. Great, easy besides load increase.

UPRIGHT ROW:
10@32,5kg
10@32,5kg
10@32,5kg
10@32,5kg ( extra set )
-Strong.

BB CURL:
12@27,5kg ( +2 reps )
12@27,5kg ( +2 reps )
10@27,5kg
10@27,5kg
PREACHER CURL:
12@20kg
12@20kg
DB HAMMER CURL:
11@14kg each hand
11@14kg each hand
-Decided to switch from 4x10 curl to 2x12*3 different bicep target curls. I want to chase 17'' flexed biceps, just for fun ( max i ever got was 16,25'', currently ~15,75'' ).

TRICEPS PUSH DOWN:
10@140lbs ( +10 lbs )
10@140lbs ( +10 lbs )
10@140lbs ( +10 lbs )
9@140lbs ( extra set )
-Strong. Approaching limit strength. Focus on strict form.

45' HYPEREXTENSION:
12@BW
12@BW
12@BW
-Tried to do those glute/hamstring dominantly. Not sure, felt like it was working but not 100%, still early.
Major mover was still lower back but i did feel them in glutes/hamstrings much more than previously. Nice.
I want the spinae erector involved anyway, the pchain leg muscles more invlolved is an added benefit.

Another great/strong session. Feels awesome.

« Last Edit: October 09, 2015, 06:46:02 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2853 on: October 09, 2015, 11:53:38 am »
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it's true. now that my shoulder is healthy i can do windshield wipers again.  ;D
Muscles are nonsensical they have nothing to do with this bullshit.

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2854 on: October 09, 2015, 01:10:35 pm »
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What do you guys think of targeting core via anti-extension, anti-rotation, anti-lateral flexion, anti-flexion?

ab wheel is perfect for anti-extension, you can hit anti-lateral flexion and rotation all at once with landmines, pure anti-rotation with push-pull.  anti-flexion basically gets taken care of from squats/any hip extension

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2855 on: October 10, 2015, 05:13:37 am »
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many internet gurus favor anti-extension and anti-rotation stuff for core strength rather than sit ups or crunches. charlie francis, internet guru of internet gurus, was a crunch enthusiast. my intuition says the anti- stuff is better but truthfully, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

for anti-rotation pallof presses are also good.
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https://www.savannahstate.edu/cost/nrotc/documents/Inform2010-thearmstrongworkout_Enclosure15_5-2-10.pdf

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2856 on: October 10, 2015, 01:12:00 pm »
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10 October 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~86,75kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER SNATCH
5@22,5kg
5@32,5kg
5@37,5kg
3@42,5kg
2@47,5kg , ties last week's all time 2RM PR
-All sets felt better but i failed to lock the third rep @47,5 for the lifetime 3RM & predicted 1RM PRs. Hopefully next time.

SQUAT:
5@22,5kg  ( +2,5 kg )
5@42,5kg  ( +2,5 kg )
5@62,5kg  ( +2,5 kg )
3@82,5kg  ( +2,5 kg )
MSEM :
1@92,5kg  ( +2,5 kg )
1@95kg
1@97,5kg ( - 2,5 kg )
1@100kg
1@102,5kg  ( +2,5 kg )
1@105kg  ( +2,5 kg ) , season 1RM  :personal-record:
-Got it right this time. MSEM @>90%1RM works better with small increases. No shit! Very happy with form/depth.

SEATED NEUTRAL GRIP DB OHP:
10@18kg each hand
10@18kg each hand
10@18kg each hand
10@18kg each hand ( +1 rep )
-Nice.

SEATED REAR DELT FLY MACHINE:
12@50lbs ( +10 lbs )
12@65lbs ( +2 reps )
10@65lbs
-Very nice, good progress.

DEAD HANG NEUTRAL GRIP PULLUPS:
7@BW
7@BW
6@BW ( +1 rep )
NEUTRAL GRIP LAT PULLDOWN: 13@150lbs ( +10 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
-Nice.

SEATED PAUSED CALF RAISE:
15@52,5kg
15@52,5kg
13@52,5kg
-Same with last time. I think i was doing longer pauses and slower eccentrics though.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2015, 02:50:11 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2857 on: October 13, 2015, 06:20:55 am »
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12 October 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~87.75kg , nice, bulking was stalling
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : right lower back

HANG POWER CLEAN
5@22,5kg
5@32,5kg
3@42,5kg
3@52,5kg
2@62,5kg , ties last week's lifetime 2RM  PR.
-Ahhh, third rep was sooo close. Next time?

ATG PAUSED SQUAT:
5@80kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@80kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@80kg ( +2,5 kg )
MEBM SQUAT ( no pause ) : 20@62,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Wow. Everything easier than last week although heavier.

BENCH PRESS:
5@65kg ( +2,5 kg )
4@65kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
4@65kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
15@50kg
-65 felt lighter than it should when unracking. But not when pressing it. Still good for me.

INCLINE (45') DB PRESS:
Moving those permanently to day 2, a push was missing from that day too, better balanced that way.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
7@BW
7@BW
6@BW
LAT PULLDOWN : 14@160lbs ( +1 rep )
-Nice. Almost same reps but better control.

PAUSED STANDING CALF RAISE ( 1:1:5 ):
7@BW+85kg ( +5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
8@BW+85kg ( +5 kg )
8@BW+85kg ( +5 kg )
-Very Strong.

So i have this weird back pain It is lower back but far out to the right, almost to the side, like at the end of latimus dorsi, at the last two ribs.
It does not even feel muscular, it is more similar to the pain you get when rib-elbowed during basketball. Can't recall or imagine where i got it from though. Woke up Sunday morning with it.
I can feel it when walking, when unracking bar for squat/bench, mostly when doing a side bend to the right. So probably it is a light lat sprain. But it didn't bug me at all during maximal cleans, or paused squats or pullups. Weirdness. Keeping an eye on it, although i expect it to just fade away on it's own.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2015, 06:22:48 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2858 on: October 14, 2015, 04:48:33 am »
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13 October 2015

Bodyweight@session : ?
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : right lower back still there but much better

Went to the park, did some shooting around & layups for 45'
Not having done anything at all besides weights the last 20 days had obvious consequences. Was slow, stiff, uncoordinated.
Still did a few jumps in the end, they were a joke, 27-28.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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« Reply #2859 on: October 15, 2015, 04:57:51 am »
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14 October 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~87,75kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

RDL:
8@87,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
8@87,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
8@87,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Legs fine. Grip is starting to get seriously challenged.

INCLINE (45') DB PRESS:
12@20kg each hand ( +2 kg each hand  )
12@20kg each hand ( +2 kg each hand )
12@20kg each hand ( +2 kg each hand )
-Very nice.

UPRIGHT ROW:
10@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@35kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
-Strong.

BB CURL:
12@30kg  ( +2,5 kg )
10@30kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -2 reps )
PREACHER CURL:
12@22,5kg  ( +2,5 kg )
12@22,5kg  ( +2,5 kg )
DB HAMMER CURL:
12@14kg each hand ( +1 rep each hand )
12@14kg each hand ( +1 rep each hand )
-Strong.

TRICEPS PUSH DOWN:
10@140lbs
10@140lbs
10@140lbs
10@140lbs ( +1 rep )
-Strong.

45' HYPEREXTENSION:
12@BW
12@BW
12@BW
-Much easier than last week. Not loading them yet, playing around to make them as hip-dominant as possible, i think it goes good so far.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2860 on: October 16, 2015, 05:05:00 am »
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15 October 2015

Went to the park, did some shooting around & layups for 45'. Moving much better than 2 days ago. Or, if you prefer, less terrible, lol.
Jumps in the end were improved too, feeling more fluid/bouncy and getting a couple of inches higher ( repeatable 29'' ).
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2861 on: October 17, 2015, 11:36:04 am »
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17 October 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~86,75kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER SNATCH
5@22,5kg
5@32,5kg
5@37,5kg
3@42,5kg
3@47,5kg , all time 3RM  :personal-record: & predicted 1RM  :personal-record:
-Awesome! Good power/form improvement in lighter sets too.

SQUAT:
5@22,5kg
5@42,5kg
5@62,5kg
3@82,5kg
MSEM :
1@92,5kg
1@95kg
1@100kg ( +2,5 kg )
1@102,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
1@105kg  ( +2,5 kg )
1@107,5kg  ( +2,5 kg ) , season 1RM  :personal-record:
-Awesome. Planned to repeat last week's sequence but 92,5 and 95 flew up so took my chances. Worth it ;)

SEATED NEUTRAL GRIP DB OHP:
10@20kg each hand ( +2 kg each hand )
9@20kg each hand ( +2 kg each hand ) , ( -1 rep )
9@20kg each hand ( +2 kg each hand ) , ( -1 rep )
8@20kg each hand ( +2 kg each hand ) , ( -2 reps )
-Some reps lost but still very strong for my levels. Technically  :personal-record: , have never gone over 18kg at those.

SEATED REAR DELT FLY MACHINE:
12@65lbs
12@65lbs
12@65lbs ( +2 reps )
-Getting easy but can't bump up to 80lbs yet.

DEAD HANG NEUTRAL GRIP PULLUPS:
7@BW
7@BW
6@BW
NEUTRAL GRIP LAT PULLDOWN: 14@150lbs ( +1 rep )
-Nice.

SEATED PAUSED CALF RAISE:
15@52,5kg
15@52,5kg
15@52,5kg ( +2 reps )
-Nice.

Strong Saturday again.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2862 on: October 17, 2015, 01:08:25 pm »
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 :goodjobbro:

did the idiopathic back pain go away?
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2863 on: October 17, 2015, 01:24:17 pm »
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2864 on: October 18, 2015, 06:29:27 am »
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Thanks both. Back still hurts a bit like every other morning but it goes away soon and doesn't bug at all during training so I stopped logging it.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?