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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2220 on: June 29, 2014, 08:38:51 pm »
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No, i mean unrealistic.
Correct me if i am wrong, according to what i read and how i had it in mind too, unreal = dreamlike, unrealistic = not like expected.
The bar has a diverse feeling overall after the halfs. It feels like it is a hollow plastic bar that i can break in half if i want. The whole feeling i get touching the bar and having it on my back and adjusting it with my hands is unrealistic compared to the normal feel of a 20kg steel bar.

you are half right. unreal does mean something like dreamlike, although obviously the connotations are different and you wouldn't use them in exactly the same way. but unrealistic doesn't mean unexpected, means very unlikely to occur in reality. the most common way i can think of it being used is in relation to expectations: e.g., "imagining costa rica will win the world cup is pretty unrealistic." something along those lines.

that's also not a correct way to use "diverse," you should just say "different" there. but i'm not really sure what you mean by unrealistic in that context. it feels fake compared to the way it feels normally?
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2221 on: June 30, 2014, 04:42:25 am »
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C2: JUMP SQUAT:
2x5@20kg
-Awesome. Still can't get over how light the bar felt, it was so unexpected.

Fixed.

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« Last Edit: June 30, 2014, 04:44:44 am by seifullaah73 »
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   - a walk, b skip quick powerful switch (heel to hams focus), a runs, dribbles small to big to run, straight leg to runs (force, reflex, go up/forward). force to hit the ground before it hits the ground knee/hip is at 90 degrees.
   - acceleration: low heel recovery, shin angle low, drive legs back before hitting the ground and drive thighs/knee forward not up
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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2222 on: June 30, 2014, 05:10:04 am »
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lol, no, i was not referring to the unexpected feeling. It was unexpected too but it was not what i wanted to note.
What i wanted to note was that the bar feel was not realistic. To a point that i am worried i might get injured from that 'fake' feeling of its weight.
Here is the definition of realistic that i had in mind:
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realistic (comparative more realistic, superlative most realistic)

    Expressed or represented as being accurate.  [quotations ▼]
        A realistic appraisal of the situation.

    Relating to the representation of objects, actions or conditions as they actually are or were.
        A realistic novel about the Victorian poor.


that's also not a correct way to use "diverse," you should just say "different" there. but i'm not really sure what you mean by unrealistic in that context. it feels fake compared to the way it feels normally?

Indeed and yes.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2014, 06:09:55 am by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2223 on: June 30, 2014, 06:09:09 am »
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Ok, back to S&C mode now.  ;D

29 June 2014

Bodyweight@session : forgot to check
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

1,6km ( 1 mile ) STEADY PACE JOGGING:
Total time = 9 minutes 20 seconds
Average speed = 10,25km/h ( +0.47kmh ):personal-record: , also broke the 10km/h barrier.
Pace  = 5 minutes 51 seconds per km ( -17 seconds per km ):personal-record: , also broke the 6 mins per km barrier.
-Nice. I did feel a bit off ( tired/sleepy ), so extra happy with the improvement.

5 minutes rest

100m TEMPO RUNS ( 1 minute rest between runs ):
10x100m@50%
-Times around 23-24 seconds. Feeling a bit off here too, was 1-2 seconds slow too compared to recent performance.

3 minutes rest

1x100m@100% : 16:20
Having 16 seconds 100m PR = pathetic.
Being able to match it on a bad day after a mile run and 10x100m tempos = encouraging.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2014, 12:36:31 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2224 on: June 30, 2014, 06:13:21 am »
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Have these tempo runs had any effect on your bodyweight in your opinion, or was it just nutritional adjustments?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2225 on: June 30, 2014, 06:56:28 am »
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Hm, I would say that the weight loss itself so far was 90% achieved through caloric deficit.
The tempos may have played some minimum role in creating that deficit. Mostly ( i hope ) they aided in the 'quality' of the cut, helping raise the fat% of the lost weight.
I use those tempo workouts as a fat-burner with some added benefits from the up-tempo.
Ideally, instead of them i would want to do 45 minutes of fast walking. But i would die from boredom. Tempos are so much more fun and time-efficient.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2014, 02:19:38 pm by vag »
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2226 on: June 30, 2014, 02:28:10 pm »
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30 June 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~85kg , ties season low
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

ME RIM JUMPS:
SVJ : max = 27'' , ties season best!
Dropstep : max = 30,5'' SEASON BEST!
1-step-DLRVJ : max = 31'' , ties season best!
2-steps-DLRVJ : max = 31'' , ties season best!
Full runup DLRVJs : max = 31'' , ties season best!

Awesomeness :  runup/plant/jump was very fluid, the horizontal-to-vertical energy transfer felt very efficient.
Getting 10'5'' / 30'' was way too easy, almost effortless. 10'6'' / 31'' was repeatable.
Sadly i couldn't get a season PR except from that one dropstep.
Limiting factor was traction because of the very dusty concrete and my worn out Kobes. Gotta fix both those issues, i am on it.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2227 on: July 01, 2014, 04:53:27 pm »
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1 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~84.75kg , season low, broke the 85kg training BW barrier!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

Kelly Baggett's simple periodization routine

PHASE IV ( Peak )

Workout #5

9'' DEPTH JUMPS:
2x10
-Awesome.

COMPLEX :
C1 : HALF SQUAT:
5@130kg , ( +2,5 kg )
5@130kg , ( +2,5 kg )
-Awesome. Load now just over 1,5*BW, predicted 1RM just under 1,75*BW  :headbang:

C2: JUMP SQUAT:
2x5@20kg
-Great.

PAUSED STANDING CALVES RAISES MACHINE:
18@75kg
17@75kg
15@75kg
-Same reps with last time but that was 2 weeks ago so fine.

BENCH PRESS:
4@72,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep ) , 4RM  :personal-record:
8@62,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -2 reps )
13@52,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -2 reps )
-Also all time predicted 1RM/BW  :personal-record: ( ~0.93 )

PULLUPS:
10@BW ( +1rep ):personal-record:
8@BW
7@BW
-Got the 25-reps-in-3-sets goal too, moving to weighted next time.  :highfive:

:strong:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2228 on: July 02, 2014, 05:35:46 am »
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You beast!

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2229 on: July 02, 2014, 08:22:14 am »
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You beast!

:ninja:

Pic of yesterday's half squats depth:



Do you guys think they may be too high? I think that, granted they are used for peaking and not strength building, this is an ideal depth, around 90 degrees knee angle.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2230 on: July 02, 2014, 09:03:14 am »
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Nah they look great. But why that face? :D

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« Reply #2231 on: July 02, 2014, 09:11:30 am »
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The ninja face? It means "thanks for calling me a beast but i am not even close to it"
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2232 on: July 02, 2014, 11:15:52 am »
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No no, the "this bar is so heavy" face :D

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Re: Age vs Vertical
« Reply #2233 on: July 02, 2014, 11:29:47 am »
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Ohhhh, i don't know, there is a wild crazy chance that it was because the bar was so heavy.
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?

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« Reply #2234 on: July 02, 2014, 03:18:50 pm »
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2 July 2014

Bodyweight@session : 84,5kg, season low again!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:
Soreness : very tight/stiff quads, DOMS 2/5 calves
Injuries/aches :  none

1,6km ( 1 mile ) STEADY PACE JOGGING:
Total time = 9 minutes 15 seconds ( -5 seconds )
Average speed = 10,37km/h ( +0.12kmh )
Pace  = 5 minutes 47 seconds per km ( -4 seconds per km )
-Everything is  :personal-record: but just by a tiny bit.

5 minutes rest

100m TEMPO RUNS ( 1 minute rest between runs ):
5x100m@50% + 1x100m@80%
-Times for 50% : 23-24 seconds.
-Time for 80% : 17:50
My usual times.

3 minutes rest

1x80m@100% : 12:20
-Bad, i have done 12:00 this April and 11:90 last September.

3 minutes rest

1x100m@100% : 15:50  :personal-record:  :personal-record:  :personal-record:

:lololol:
Target training paces (min/km), calculated from 5K PR 22:49 :
Easy run : 5:48
Tempo run : 4:50
VO2-max run :4:21
Speed form run : 4:02

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it's the biggest trick in the run game.. go slow to go fast. it doesn't make sense until it smacks you in the face and you're like ....... wtf?